Gentrification: Gone Too Far?

something about restaurant review...guess it's not about food or genritfication itself, just an attitude thing.

That sounds amazing, Dan.

Best food ever.

Yeah, and the US gave a lot of its towns Native American names.

More offensive, I think, is calling your restaurant "Tenement" or "Barrio" and claiming to keep it real by serving $16 rice and beans or latkes or Cuban sandwiches.

I don't quite follow the logic of that either. $45 truffles are a shibboleth of some sort of gratuitous non-beatnikness? Whereas the $25 entrees you could get across the street in 1999 were pure of heart and ever so revolutionary?

- is it preferrable for a neighborhood to remain dangerous and fucked up?

- is it preferrable for people who are making a living to live in the gated, paved out suburbs?

i'm just curious cause i've read about gentrification for years and i understand that it sucks that a working class neighborhood gets all fake-hip and whatever and suddenly the native inhabitants get kicked to the curb so richer folks can get some pretend-authentic city lifestyle... but i guess i'm trying to understand what the proper alternative is...

are people who actually make a living doomed to shit?

are people who live in a crappy, dangerous neighborhoods doomed as well?

can i get a clue?
m.

remember that white girl that got herself killed on clinton/rivington last year? by some ethnic guys. right outside as four's loft.

I'd be interested to see data on how many people are really "forced out" of a gentrifying neighborhood. One, tennants in NYC have an enormous amount of protection under the law. Two, everyone I know (four people) who was "forced out" of their apartment due to rising prices was well compensate, all of them over 100K, and one got 200K to move out. These were rent controlled apartments where they'd been for 20+ years and the landlords wanted to bring them to market value, and probably break them into separate units.

seemed like a step in the right direction at least.

Eventually the buildings will have to be either remodeled or demolished but the costs of renovation or new construction are high enough to be prohibitive for families currently living in the area. When they're rebuilt, they'll be luxury apartments of one kind or another -- whether quasi-industrial & modern & stylish (like the husband & wife-owned former-warehouse down the block) or those cookie-cutter places that attract people who were originally looking in Park Slope (like the old Bklyn Jewish Hospital building or the new high-rise place on Dean & err Washington?) or just possibly actually renovated into one- or two-family dwellings with period woodwork, wallpaper, etc. In any case they've been taken out of range for the pre-gentrification occupants.

When you're only talking abt a few individual buildings on a street, I suppose it doesn't make a huge difference -- but the larger the complex, the greater the impact.

come to my house! Wyckoff and Nevins, between the Gowanus Housing Project and the Wyckoff Houses.

well still. pretty white girls getting shot makes a neighborhood more dangerous where pretty white girls dont get shot.

The original restaurant review was funny. Eating $45 servings of truffle from the local bodega's plastic placemats. It's like a parody of social satire, re-heating one of Tom Wolfe's leftovers.

This is really, really good:

http://www.wnyc.org/shows/neighborhood/

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/11/is-gentrification-really-a-problem?mbid=social_twitter#correctionasterisk

kalefah on gentrification and "ghettoes"

kelefa* obv

owners/landlords are going back to convenient arson as a way to get around rent control/tenant protections

bushwick is being gentrified with zubats and doduos now, from what i hear

the new housing being slapped up in bushwick rn is absolutely the worst shit. 'luxury' marketing and price points that drive gentrification, but so badly-built, leaky and underdesigned that even as it depreciates it will never be suitable housing for the non-1%, even setting aside that all the units are organized for single stockbrockers/'creatives' living with friends and would be very ill-suited for families with kids, etc.

misallocation of capital in the pursuit of profits is at the very heart of capitalism

http://www.laweekly.com/news/boyle-heights-activists-demand-that-all-art-galleries-get-the-hell-out-of-their-neighborhood-7134859

the new housing being slapped up in bushwick rn is absolutely the worst shit. 'luxury' marketing and price points that drive gentrification, but so badly-built, leaky and underdesigned that even as it depreciates it will never be suitable housing for the non-1%, even setting aside that all the units are organized for single stockbrockers/'creatives' living with friends and would be very ill-suited for families with kids, etc.

― 'they pelted us with rocks and garbage' (Doctor Casino), Monday, July 11, 2016 1:39 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is an issue that agitates me a lot when I think about the future of NYC, like what the fuck happens to huge parts of Williamsburg/Bushwick in 10-20 years, especially if there is an economic downturn, with all these slapdash buildings falling apart and potentially not even fit to be slums.

Not that they're the sole culprit, but I really think tax abatements for condos did a lot of damage to this city that will take a long time to repair.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqTuRhtXYAYSyqw.jpg

photo from https://twitter.com/Theo_Inglis

http://blog.sfgate.com/ontheblock/2016/08/19/rent-increases-slow-dramatically-as-increased-construction-catches-up-with-demand/

so dumb

Attracting foodies from all over Montreal and around the world, Notre Dame St. has become the place to go out to eat, with an explosion of restaurants -- 16 new eateries have opened in five years, many of them high-end hot spots.

But a new bylaw has the Southwest borough is putting the brakes on new restaurants, forcing them to be at least 25 metres away from the nearest one.
“Every second storefront should not be a restaurant,” said Southwest borough councillor Craig Sauve, a member of Projet Montreal.

“Maybe get in some retail, grocery stores, bakeries. Get in some services. That's what people in the neighbourhood really want,” he said.

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/new-bylaw-aims-to-curb-notre-dame-st-w-gentrification-1.3084908

this strip is like a 30 seconds walk from the second largest outdoor market in the city

and across the street is an enormous budget grocery store

Love too gentrify

the restaurant situation further west on notredame is getting seriously ridiculous tho

the effect of this will be that the restaurants that do get opened will be even more expensive/fancy

fancy = using the same reheated frozen food that the olive garden uses, but with a higher price point and different brand story.

When i first moved to st henri like 2 out of 3 shops on notre dame were boarded up and the rest were fast food places, reptile shops, deps, encans, and family-run office supply shops (one of which memorably had a single usb cable hanging on a nail driven in to a wall)... its not like there's some glorified pre-gentrified past

It's the long-term changes these developments engender, not the specific locations they replace.

Los Angeles' Boyle Heights area is undergoing a similar situation now. Formerly empty warehouses being occupied by art galleries. No residences in the immediate area but the galleries are seen as the first wave.

http://hyperallergic.com/324683/activists-in-las-boyle-heights-serve-galleries-with-eviction-notices/

y;es, it's gone way too far

I don't understand how so many progressives reconcile being anti development

maybe, just maybe, it hasn't gone far enough

I don't understand how so many progressives reconcile being anti development

― yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Friday, September 23, 2016 9:01 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i know im a progressive and i love rent hikes, renovictions, displacement, increased police presence and hassling of poors, etc.

hey this sex work is unsightly can we move it over to a more remote and industrial area so i don't have to see it?

you want to open a housing project for people with multiple barriers in this traditionally poor neighbourhood? well let me start a campaign against it because this is my neighbourhood because ive lived here for 5 years

New York's fast-gentrifying neighborhoods have contributed to an economic boom in the city over the last 15 years, with the number of new storefronts and companies increasing by 45%. But those economic gains have not been shared by all residents, according to a new report from the city comptroller's office.

From 2007 to 2012, for example, the number of black-owned businesses in the city declined by more than 30%, even as black business ownership increased in other big cities around the country. Among the 25 largest US cities with over 500 black-owned businesses, New York is one of only three to see a decline, along with Detroit and Jacksonville.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/coralewis/in-5-years-new-york-lost-30-of-its-black-owned-businesses

ppl on my facebork apoplectic about this one

http://i68.tinypic.com/2ryrgau.png

someone should pee on that

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

Better to own it than deny it.

headline of the month

SAN FRANCISCO: City’s Oldest Gay Bar Closes After 58 Years, Will Become Kung Fu-Themed Laundromat

Whoa, awesome!

Too poor to play: children in social housing blocked from communal playground https://t.co/opGh3LOkB6

— Guardian Cities (@guardiancities) March 25, 2019

great community cohesion here, always best to teach kids they are 2nd class citizens early doors.

This Top Boy scene about coffee, as a commentary on gentrification in east London, is a masterpiece honestly. pic.twitter.com/h6YD9dBVWD

— Chimene Suleyman (@chimenesuleyman) September 18, 2019

hahaha

https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/70632145_10157707314514238_4156645310136844288_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_oc=AQki4cqK5U4uy6BenZFiJ_aAmTlMJVHBrc6N19oIzMXnR24ozfMeNPo37FfHaY18DFg&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=c2c0b537d639a7c3e30ac48256cc8c93&oe=5DFAB21B

Yeah that one already got in my twitter tl.

friend posted it, I assumed he snapped it but maybe it's just going around

I mean the discussion is mostly just like "Welp this has been coming for a while, what are you gonna do."

as a non-new yorker that one is still a big yikes from me

I was gonna comment on the Texas Chicken & Burgers sign in the glass and happened to look up the company -- never realized they had so many locations, thought there was just like a few peppered around queens/bronx/harlem.

yeah that is a completely shocking ad. I'm kind of stunned at the refusal to even pay lip service to POC

That coffee bit has strong old person whining about fancy coffee energy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f_dxLiuXuw

Lol had same reaction and knew what that vid was gonna be.

That hairstyle-sideburns combo is criminal.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/24/outcry-residents-london-bollo-brook-youth-centre-gentrification-coffee-shop?CMP=share_btn_tw

I feel sorry for the people who got tricked into buying a house here for £750k. They have been sold that this is going to be the next booming area when really … there’s still the core problems of South Acton here. A lot of people are dying out here man

that's way too generous... fuck every last one of these selfish rich cunts.