Henry Miller The Tropic Of Cancer and Capricorn

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I am reading this right now ans i think its boring and over written or is it that i just dont get straight sex.

anthony, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Henry Miller makes *me* wish I didn't "get" straight sex, jesus he's terrible. read something else.

duane, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

i can't back this up w/ any literary knowledge/education, but i just want to chip in that i think it's boring too.

marianna, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

though I'm betting josh and a few others will btich slap me for this one, miller bites - just another yank trying to be fucking french, french fucking - dull in extremus, though he did manage to screw anais nin around enough to result in some interesting work by her, plus a perfume - miller just got a beer.

Geoff, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Anais also got a Gallagher sprog named after her. Lucky French gal that she is.

Emma, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I read T of Capricorn for a 10th grade book report. Whoa was I not ready for that! Very explicit! If only the school board had known!

Mike Hanle y, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

To redundantly reprise what I sed but half-forgot on the beatnik thread: opening section of Capricorn = misanthropic mindfuck. Thereafter, good only in parts, phrase "purple patches" invented for Miller, esp. his obsession w/ wurd "fecundating". Cancer (being writ two decades earlier) is stylistically simpler, ie. easier to read, more coherent overall, tho' less, erm, searing in best bits. All the sex now v. v. quaint, tho' [evidently] quite the stir in its day. Best Miller (of what I've read, less than 1/2 his stuff) = short story "First Love"; its v. "human" & affecting, free of Miller's oft. toughnut posturing.

AP, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

one year passes...
dr vick just read capricorn and loved it, and said i wd too!!

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 08:53 (twenty-two years ago) link

five years pass...

henry miller was seriously shit.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 3 January 2008 12:21 (seventeen years ago) link

LOL ENVY

Just got offed, Thursday, 3 January 2008 14:05 (seventeen years ago) link

one guy that quit seriously OTM

stevie, Thursday, 3 January 2008 15:05 (seventeen years ago) link

"the air-conditioned nightmare" is OK, some funny bits. never made it very far with anything else.

anyway, does anyone even rate him anymore? i never hear people talk about him.

J.D., Thursday, 3 January 2008 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, ILX.

*shakes head*

You're all a bunch of boobs sometimes.

kenan, Thursday, 3 January 2008 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

(by which I mean, I love Henry Miller.)

kenan, Thursday, 3 January 2008 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

skip to Nexus Plexus Sexus

sexyDancer, Thursday, 3 January 2008 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

you would

xpost

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 3 January 2008 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

better than that, I do.

kenan, Thursday, 3 January 2008 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

OK, only 80 pages into Tropic of Cancer, but damn, this kinda sucks. Miller seems way more impressed with himself and his writing than I am. His personality and sense of self-importance and cartoonish machismo is too uncomfortably similar to many a young, privileged, dick-waving, pseudo-intellectual artistes that I've known. I think I could tolerate that if the writing was strong, but this is just dull and narcissistic in the worst way.

circa1916, Thursday, 21 May 2009 09:19 (fifteen years ago) link

The only semi-sensible justification for The Tropic of Cancer I ever read was the George Orwell essay on it, which points out with good 1930s logic that it was the only recent book he'd seen, read, or heard of where the author seemed to be happy, and given the state of the world at the time, this was a sort of freaking miracle, and that made him like the book.

The 1930s have ended. The book is more obviously shite now than it was then.

Aimless, Thursday, 21 May 2009 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think that it was that he was happy. If I remember correctly it was that he felt that the English speaking authors of the day were too concerned with politics and history. They would not write subjectively but had to attempt to indict things or comment. They were too didactic. Actually I'll get it out the bookshelf now. He praises Miller for being "innocent of public-spiritidness" welcomes the "quietism" of his work, which he feels brings it to express what man feels rather than what he ought to feel.

languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Thursday, 21 May 2009 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link

spiritedness even

languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Thursday, 21 May 2009 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I love Henry Miller, though I can completely understand why so many people don't.

Defnitely preferred Sexus way more than Tropic of Cancer, which is a bit too disjointed and depressed.

My wife and I have Black Spring next on our list of books to read together.

Moodles, Thursday, 21 May 2009 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

I liked both Tropics, especially when Miller just lapses into a page of cosmic poetry before snapping back into the story itself. I should re-read these. It's been years.

I have others of his that I haven't taken off the shelf yet...

Nate Carson, Thursday, 21 May 2009 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

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"Look. If you think this is about overdue fines and missing books, you'd better think again. This is about that kid's right to read a book without getting his mind warped! Or maybe that turns you on, Seinfeld; maybe that's how y'get your kicks. You and your good-time buddies. Well I got a flash for ya, joy-boy: Party time is over."

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 21 May 2009 20:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Ha, I think that Seinfeld episode was my introduction to Tropic of Cancer. That ^ scene is the greatest ever.

circa1916, Thursday, 21 May 2009 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

The only semi-sensible justification for The Tropic of Cancer I ever read was the George Orwell essay on it

Which is here: http://www.ourcivilisation.com/smartboard/shop/orwellg/whale.htm

"A friendly American voice, with no humbug in it, no moral purpose, merely an implicit assumption that we are all alike. For the moment you have got away from the lies and simplifications, the stylized, marionette-like quality of ordinary fiction, even quite good fiction, and are dealing with the recognizable experiences of human beings."

kenan, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 07:43 (fourteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

Looks like lol done review.

Brigid Brophy on Henry Miller, London Magazine, June 1963 @BrophyLevey ‘Henry Miller holds himself up to us to be admired on the grounds that he is forever fucking...’ pic.twitter.com/qQhTnXaZ2E

— Nicholas Royle (@nicholasroyle) August 20, 2020

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