Mickey, please tell me about your experiences as a recent iBook purchaser?

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And anyone else too, please, for I am considering getting a 12" iBook with 1gig of RAM and and 80gig HD.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 12 January 2006 09:23 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, I should link this for context - My PC died - should I get a Mac?

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 12 January 2006 09:23 (twenty years ago)

You might be able to save a bit of cash by only going with the 512MB option (assuming this is still available, I haven't seen the store since MacWorld), which will be plenty enough for everything you listed on the other thread.

Of course, having said that, the more memory the better.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 12 January 2006 10:14 (twenty years ago)

It's only about £30 for the extra memory, and if my girlfriend buys it we get about £120 off anyway (student rates). And you never know, one day I might need it.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 12 January 2006 10:16 (twenty years ago)

I noticed there's a crack in the top frame on one of our iBOOKs. Dunno how it got there.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 12 January 2006 10:38 (twenty years ago)

It also might be worth mentioning (here, since the other thread is being clogged up) that I recently bought a new PowerBook, and it has been nothing but easy computing heaven for me since, and a lot of the problems regarding the Finder etc are coming from people used to the way the old Finder worked (it's largely regarded that the OS9 Finder >>> OSX Finder)--my point being that you'll probably not notice these problems if you aren't particularly familiar with Macs at the moment.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 12 January 2006 10:41 (twenty years ago)

HEY MAC DUDES, WHY DON'T WE TURN THIS THREAD INTO A MASSIVE INTERNECINE SQUABBLE TOO, AND MAKE OURSELVES LOOK LIKE A BUNCH OF KNOBS?

just a suggestion, like.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 12 January 2006 11:02 (twenty years ago)

Nick, do you have any more specific question? I'm not sure what to say.

I used the student discount through my university to get the 14" iBook for about $12,000. I highly suggest going to a store and playing with the different laptops for a while to see which feels most comfortable to you. I thought the 12" was too small, and I preferred the iBook over the Powerbook, which both have very similar specs.

I guess what's most important is using it. I swear, I've never had a computer that was so intuitive, so ready to use out of the box. I literally just plugged it in, turned it on, went through less than 5 minutes of telling it my name, where I live, what time it is, etc, and then it was on and ready to go. All the regular software you may need is there already, set up, and as I explained about widgets, certain things are a lot easier to do. Here's a quick run through of what I use.

Safari - I don't know why people use Firefox on a Mac. Safari is my favorite browser I've used. Very similar interface and features to Firefox, and it works great. I have yet to go to any webpage that doesn't work exactly as it's supposed to.

iChat - iChat works with your AIM account, which is what I use it to. Nothing fancy to say about it. It's a basic IM client. Works great, no complaints.

iTunes - same as it is on a PC, but runs smoother. That's one thing I've noticed. Programs that I ran on the PC and Mac run a lot smoother on the Mac. The difference is very noticable.

Some things I installed.

NetNewsWire - this is an RSS reader. Do you use those? I haven't used one before, but it seems very nice. It was recommended on dailykos.com. About 25-buck shareware at ranchero.com.

Pages - this is the Apple word processing program. I love it. I used to use Microsoft Word back in my piratin' days, and OpenOffice after that. I prefer this over both of those. Runs smoother, nicer somewhat unique interface.

Irssix - IRC util. I got the simplest one because I'm such a lightweight IRC user.

When thinking about switching over to a Mac, one of my biggest fears was that something I do very much with my PC, I'd somehow not be able to do anymore. Maybe my school webpage wouldn't work on Mac web browsers, maybe AIM wouldn't work... CD burning? IRC? Who knows, just something. I had a feeling that something wouldn't work anymore. So far that has yet to happen. It doesn't even really "feel like" I'm using an "alternative" computer, if that makes sense. I forget that I am. It feels like I'm using a PC, just like everyone else, except everything runs smoother and is easier to do.

I have to get off of here and run to class. This class is -- ha! -- in our school's only Mac lab! How nice. If you have any more questions, I'd be more than happy to answer them.

Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 12 January 2006 14:08 (twenty years ago)

$12,000

phew.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 12 January 2006 14:13 (twenty years ago)

I assume that's a typo...

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 12 January 2006 14:33 (twenty years ago)

slsk will be the only thing you miss (mac alternatives are NOT that great still)

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 12 January 2006 14:50 (twenty years ago)

I've not touched slsk in a year.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 12 January 2006 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Nick, what exactly do you use your computer for? Like describe, not in specific detail or anything but what types of programs do you use regularly, what do you expect to use regularly, what is the most "complex" thing you're going to do with it, etc?

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 12 January 2006 15:38 (twenty years ago)

If yr not using yr computer for any sort of design work, there's no need to get a mac so just drop your 200.00 on the Dell or whatever and be done with it.

Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 12 January 2006 15:39 (twenty years ago)

that's BS, for one thing, I don't think macs are necessarily any better suited to design work any more these days. If anything they're more useful for programming work because of the Unix backend.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 12 January 2006 15:42 (twenty years ago)

The entire Conde-Nast building can't be wrong.

Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 12 January 2006 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Word processing, internet access, iPod, loading photos (nowhere near 1,000 a month!), a couple of small databases that I keep (my record collection!), occasional DVD watching, feasibly DVD burning (if I had that facility). Perhaps downloading US episodes of season 2 of Lost! I want something stable, idiot-proof, attractive (I'm shallow, so kill me)... I'm not into building or maintaining or programming. The nearest I get to that is sticking html italics tags into articles for Stylus in Word! Managaing contacts and calender and stuff would be good too but any oild piece of shit computer can do that. I'm not into graphics or games even slightly.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 12 January 2006 15:45 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Jimmy you're totally OffTM on that one dude. Kyle OTM. If he's using it as like an internet box and MP3s and movies and MS Office though like 98% of the world, he might as well get the cheapest available new gen Mac (because they're gonna be more expensive than the Dell but more secure ie won't get destroyed cos you clicked on the wrong website). If he's doing higher level design or photography shit I'd be tempted to say the exact opposite!

I don't even think he needs to worry about plunking the extra on memory if he's a typical user, unless he plans to like use iPhoto a lot or something.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 12 January 2006 15:45 (twenty years ago)

As I described to the PC tech guy here a bit ago when we were yanking my ex-PC's hard drive out of the shell, "I turn it on, open Mozilla and Word, and pay fuck-all attention to anything else for 90% of the time."

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 12 January 2006 15:46 (twenty years ago)

What?! I've never had a satisfactory experience using any part of CS or the Pre-CS non-bundled Adobe software or Quark or... on a PC

Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 12 January 2006 15:48 (twenty years ago)

10% is a lot. (xpost)

truck-patch pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 12 January 2006 15:49 (twenty years ago)

OK then I don't even think you need to spring for extra memory unless you think there might come a day where you wanna load up a billion photos or open a counterfeit DVD business to be honest. Get it if you want--I pulled up the store and see they come with Airport cards now so since you don't have to buy that you should go ahead and spring for the memory just in case.

xpost that's old hat Jimmy Mod, Spencer Chow to thread to explain how he does this on a daily basis!

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 12 January 2006 15:50 (twenty years ago)

Such savagery in los angeles

Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 12 January 2006 15:51 (twenty years ago)

The question is laptop or desktop, iBook or iMac G5...? I know no one else can really answer that for me. As someone who's had (and got over) back problems (due to posture at a computer!) a laptop worries me slightly, but the portability aspect of it is so, so tempting...

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 12 January 2006 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Well, how often do you think you'll want to take it around with you? I guess that's the only way to answer that. I mean if you think the portability will be useful--like you travel a lot or need to bring it around for work--then you should get it, but if you just want the portability so you can geek it up and bring it to Starbucks, then you should consider your back!

I have a laptop though and haven't noticed my posture any different from work (where I have a desktop) to home.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 12 January 2006 15:57 (twenty years ago)

I went to Manchester last weekend and stayed with friends, and it would have been mega, mega useful to be able to patch onto his wireless network and check my email / Stylus / write something / check work email etcetera on my own laptop rather than use his spare (which he uses for work - web developer [mainly runs a Powerbook - he's my biggest Mac evangelist these days] blah blah etcetera). I mainly write at home or in my dayjob at the moment, at a desk, but... The option is very tempting.

I'm totally aware that no one can really answer this for me.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 12 January 2006 16:02 (twenty years ago)

just buy the fucking thing

adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 12 January 2006 16:15 (twenty years ago)

yes, let's stop the three threads of Mac heartache and just get this done.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 12 January 2006 16:16 (twenty years ago)

And pay cash. Your computer overlords prefer cash.

Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 12 January 2006 16:17 (twenty years ago)

The question is laptop or desktop

This isn't a question! Computer in bed, computer on balcony while you smoke, computer in front of television so you can read the paper during tv commercials, computer in kitchen for DVD watching while you peel/bake/stir -- just think how much closer you'll be to fulfilling your whims precisely when they occur to you!

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 12 January 2006 16:25 (twenty years ago)

i got laptop, for wifi leaching reasons.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 12 January 2006 16:27 (twenty years ago)

I'm sorry people but it's gonna be another couple of days before I can order it at least, so the headache will continue for a little bit.

Then, in a week or two, you'll get reams and reams of threads by me all going "CHECK THIS SHIT OUT GUYZ!!!!"

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 12 January 2006 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Word processing, internet access, iPod, loading photos (nowhere near 1,000 a month!), a couple of small databases that I keep (my record collection!), occasional DVD watching, feasibly DVD burning (if I had that facility). Perhaps downloading US episodes of season 2 of Lost! I want something stable, idiot-proof, attractive (I'm shallow, so kill me)... I'm not into building or maintaining or programming. The nearest I get to that is sticking html italics tags into articles for Stylus in Word! Managaing contacts and calender and stuff would be good too but any oild piece of shit computer can do that. I'm not into graphics or games even slightly.
-- Sick Mouthy (sickmouth...) (webmail), January 12th, 2006. (Nick

This sounds pretty much like exactly what I use my computer for. And, it's exactly what a Mac is best for -- this simple, end user stuff that shouldn't be too hard to do or require too much setting up. "Idiot proof" is the best way to put it.

Another note about the hardware. Not the technical stuff that I'm guessing you don't care about, but simply how it handles and feels. With my old Dell, I had a noisy fan on the bottom. Whenever I tried to use the computer on cloth, or hell, even my desk, it'd get extremely hot and often times die. With the Mac, that doesn't happen at all. I have no idea how the cooling system works. If it is a fan, I can't find where it blows out and I can't hear it at all. All I know is that it works great. The laptop rarely heats up. I can use it wherever I want. I'm always using it laying in bed now, on my lap (fancy that, a laptop in my lap!)

I highly recommend a Mac for you. My father used to work for IBM, so I'd used PC's since my oldest memories begin. It was really something for me to switch over to a Mac, and I couldn't be happier that I did.

Lastly, er, yes, obviously I spent $1,200, not $12,000...

Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 12 January 2006 16:29 (twenty years ago)

One more note: to show off my new laptop to my dad, I loaded a DVD, watched that in a minimized window while simultaneously chatting on iChat and using Safari -- not a single thing slowed down.

Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 12 January 2006 16:31 (twenty years ago)

Definitely get 1GB memory, btw: it makes OS X far faster.

stet (stet), Thursday, 12 January 2006 16:32 (twenty years ago)

Regarding RAM, I'd recommend just getting the computer with the default 512 MB and wait to see if you need more. That's what I'm using, and so far I haven't needed any more.

Crucial.com sells RAM a lot cheaper, and from what I understand, it's easy to install. I'd just get the default setup, and if you choose to upgrade, do it later. There's no reason to go for that immediately.

Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 12 January 2006 16:36 (twenty years ago)

Aaargh these threads!!

TRY BEFORE YOU BUY.

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 12 January 2006 16:41 (twenty years ago)


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