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OK, every month this year I'm going to buy one book and one record on the recommendation of ILE. The only stipulations are:

- they have to be normal price - I'm not buying Grove's Dictionary Of Music or Merzbox (though both would be quite cool)

- each month I'll buy the first CD and the first book that five separate posters mention.

So go for it.

Tom, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And I'll report back on them to the best of my ability, too.

Tom, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Cabaret Voltaire "Best of" CD is only £8.99 from Rough Trade.

Trevor, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I like to repeat myself, so:
Timi Yuro - The Lost Voice of Soul
Iris Murdoch - The Black Prince

N., Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

He heh, the abuse that could be caused via this thread.

Book: I think you would really like Captain Corellis Mandolin Album: Why, Wings At The Speed Of Sound of course.

Pete, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Lali Puna - Scary World Theory. (you will tell us, if you already have things we mention?)...

jel, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Indian Ink" by Meanwhile Back In Communist Russia (OK I'm biased).

"Mother London" by Michael Moorcock.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, if I own or have owned something it doesn't count. Alas the only thing ruled out so far is Wings At The Speed Of Sound.

The deadline is Friday, when I get paid, by the way.

Tom, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nackers.

How about Dream Of The Blue Turtle by Sting?

Pete, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Isn't getting five posters to post the same book/CD a bit limiting. Either you're going to fall foul of a 'Blue Turtles'-esque scam or else it's just going to be something quite well-known that you've considered and not bothered with before. Although you don't read many novels, do you? So that might not apply so much with that.

N., Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well if it doesnt work I'll change the rules next month. I mean enough people here know who Lali Puna is, say, that I can imagine 4 or 5 people saying yeah that's good. And you can vote for lots of different things too.

Tom, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Records: The Zombies 'Oddessy and Oracle'. Don Letts 'Dread Meets Punk Rockers Uptown'. The Kinks 'Kinda Kinks'

Books : Richard Ford 'Independence Day' Naomi Klien 'No Logo' Peter Ackroyd 'London : The Biography'

Dr. C, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The new Diesel Only Truck Driver's Boogie: Big Rig Hits 1939- 1969 sounds fantastic, a high-falutin' version of all those cheap- jack trucker comp. albums out there. (It's on amazon.co.uk, so I guess you might not have too much trouble getting that over there.)

Tho' I resent his knee-jerk resentment for gentrification (New York City is now a "dangerous" place again. Happy now, asshole?) you might want to try Luc Sante' Low Life. Or it may have no particular relevance to you, not being a New Yorker and all.

Michael Daddino, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

! Mike, I am going to examine this NOW.

Sarah, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Arses I can't find it!!!

Sarah, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hmmm I can find it on amazon.COM - I shall be mad if they are telling people it's only avaliable in other countries so they can hoik up on the shipping GRRR.

Sarah, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's here on .co.uk.

It looks pretty good, although obviously any compilation of this kind is going to miss fans' favourites... no "CB Savage" (probably falls outside the years covered by the comp)? No "Hello, I'm a Truck"? No "Giddy Up Go"?

How I love truckin' songs.

Tim, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Why many of your favorites are missing could probably be explained by the limited purview of the CD: it only goes up to 1969. So no "Convoy" by C.W. McCall, either...who a co-worker tells me was in fact an advertising executive from Denver, Colorado. Not a truck- driver. Now doesn't that disappoint?

Michael Daddino, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The new Diesel Only Truck Driver's Boogie: Big Rig Hits 1939- 1969 sounds fantastic, a high-falutin' version of all those cheap- jack trucker comp. albums out there. (It's on amazon.co.uk, so I guess you might not have too much trouble getting that over there.)

I was planning on buying this off Amazon tonight myself (along with some EXCITING textbooks on indexing), so I would recommend it too. I'm hoping it's as good as the tapes my dad used to play.

Nicole, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I recommend Jimmie Rodgers-The best of the singing brakeman. it's only about 3 pounds and it's great. I haven't heard the trucker album but I imagine they're along the same lines.

Ronan, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Why don't we all just buy 'Truck Driver Boogie' and have done with it? I've clicked 'save it for later'. I think that's five, isn't it? Book- The Complete Dusty Springfield by Paul Howes. Then you can tell me what it's like. Is that cheating?

Peter Miller, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I sixth the Truck Driver Boogie. How can amazon.co.uk say it will take 4-6 weeks to order. Why don't they buy just get it off amazon.com?

N., Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

a hand blender and a good set of steel knives, just thought I'd get in there before Delia does, and they are booth very useful, just nick books and rekkids off your friends, it's much cheaper.

chris, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What about Wings Over America then? (Come on - triple LP live fun!)

Bill, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ive got about a quarter of the trucking songs, but OK thats the CD and a good choice it is. Now what about the book?

Tom, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Does anyone know off hand how much amazon.com shipping to the UK is? This would be handy for when I ship something over to Ethan, and I could pick up a few things as well. Although the MY BLUDDY VALENTINE REKKID I want to buy is cheaper on amazong.co.uk. Me? My Bloody Valentine? Comes as a surprise to me, I say. I'll be listening to Ride next. Ew.

Sarah, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

_Ender's Game_ by Orson Scott Card.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Did you ever read THE WIND UP BIRD CHRONICLE, Tom? If not then let's revive that chorus.

And if no one else will stick up for The Black Prince, then how about:

A Confederacy Of Dunces / John Kennedy Toole
Franny and Zooey / JD Salinger
The Human Stain / Philip Roth
The Black Dahilia / James Ellroy
Billy Liar / Keith Waterhouse
The Third Policeman / Flann O'Brien (actually I think you've read this)

N., Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Wind Up Bird Chronicle and A Confedracy of Dunces - seconded. Also Fathers and Sons by Turgenev if you have yet to read it. Nihilists rule!

Jonnie, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I will second the Black Dahlia and Billy Liar.

Nicole, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ooh Ender's Game, i read that years ago and was v. good as far as i recall! Tom if you have not read "The MAster and Margarita" get that.

katie, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Of ones already mentioned I'd go for Flann O'Brien.

Otherwise Tortilla Curtain by T Coraghessan Boyle, Enemy at the gate by William Craig or Basketball Diaries by Jim Carroll.

Billy Dods, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nick comes up with three of my favourites: Franny and Zooey, Billy Liar and a confederacy of dunces, all good books, Raise high the roof beams carpenter is good also by Salinger iirc.

chris, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Third Dunces and Dahlia.

AP, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yep, Dunces.

Dr. C, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

that's five dunces Tom, if you'll excuse the expression.

chris, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Seconding Master and Margarita.

RickyT, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Read Master and Margarita. Confederacy of Dunces it is.

Tom, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yay! COD is top! And also when I was in Virgin Megastore they were selling it for £1.99 UKP cheers cheers so that is more money to spend on BEER whilst reading it yay.

Sarah, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

In future months I might specify genres.

Tom, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No no no, Ender's Game. That'll make the COD people mad, see.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well if its history month may I recommend Michael Burleigh's brilliant 'The Third Reich: a new history'. Highly readable, and quite convincing with his view of Nazism as a 'secular religion'. Available in paperback too so won't bust the bank.

stevo, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Who are the COD people? Will they kill us all?

N., Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Don't worry, lb by lb we outweigh the COD.

Sarah, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ah, injokes that only I am finding amusing - and even then not that much. Can't beat them... although you wish you could. Beat them. With sticks. Repeatedly. SHUT UP!

Sarah, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Confederacy of Dunces is wonderful and fantastic. By the way, someone recommended "Anthropology" to me about 4 months ago on a thread of mine and I never said thank you. It was great.

Sam, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I really like Tortilla Curtain too. Covers the same ground as Bonfire Of The Vanities in a much better way. So read that Tom, considering you aren't going to listen to Wings At The Speed Of Sound again.

pete, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Save it for February Pete - this month's cultural prescription has been filled.

Wings num num - that was the one with Cook Of The House aargh.

Tom, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Confederacy is awful, Tom. You will rue the day you buy it.

Sarah, if you order via amazon.com to ship to a US address, the shipping is done in-country and you are just charged in dollars (which transfers over to the right amount in pounds on your credit card). At least that's what happened, reversed, when I ordered from amazon.co.uk.

Josh, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

josh exposed as flatulent hot-dog selling wannabe-author misanthropist??!

Alan Trewartha, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

One of my eunuchs has just informed me that there's an article in Mo- Jo (January edition) about trucking anthems. The good news is that there's a second volume of 'Truck Drivers' Boogie' in the pipeline. So let's all pre-order that as well. Said article also contains a ludicrous claim that truck drivers 'have sex' in their lorries. Some of the illustrations suggest that they cop off with waitresses at transport caffs as well. That rather lowers the tone, doesn't it?

Peter Miller, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

dmx krew - ffrrreeesssshhhhhh!
donald antrim - the verificationist

don't know where these will get their other 4 recommendations from though (until ambrose pops up with his dmx krew recommendation at least)

gareth, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You can lend my copy of the Verificationist, if you want Tom.

Sarah, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I knew Josh was going to say that about COD. It's a great book!

jel, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You can lend my copy of the Verificationist, if you want Tom.

To whom?

Will people stop suggesting things now? Truckers and COD have won.

N., Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't think CoD is awful but, yes, vastly overrated. Its tendency towards cuteness made it an unfuriating read but I have to admit the novel ties up all its loose ends rather satisfyingly. I'd rather recommend Colson Whitehead's John Henry Days. I know someone who knows him! And he was something of a rock critic, too. Maybe next time.

Michael Daddino, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oi! Josh and Mike! No Spoilers!

Tom, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I agree with Frannie and Zooey, and Ender's Game IF you don't know the ending because if you do it's not worth reading, and also I suggest The Illuminatus! Trilogy.

Maria, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Frank O'Hara Love Poems and Lunch Poems
k.d. lang-invincible summer

anthony, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Please stop recommending things until the February request goes up! Next time I'll post it in the evening though so the North American and NZ posters get a go.

Tom, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Keep On Truckin', Mama.

The tracklisting on that CD doesn't look vastly different* from that of the the MFP "Truck Drivin' Man - 20 Truckin' Country Classics".

Available from your local Sainsbury's, price £3.99. Delivery Time: depends on which queue you select, I guess :)

* There I go giving Tim a golden opportunity to shoot me down in flames.

David, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

1. Wings were good

2. Dream of the Blue Turtles is good

4. At least three of Nicky D's choices are good to ace

3. I like trucking records too. Why don't I own one?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm very happy that A Confederacy of Dunces won. Its popularity here helps explain to me why I love ILE so very much.

Your Working Boy, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Trust me, Tom, it doesn't need any help being spoiled.

Josh, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Important correction: I didn't mean Philip Roth's 'The Human Stain', which is more flawed than its lead character. I meant 'American Pastoral'.

N., Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nick, shut up you manboob. You knew what I meant.

Sarah, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What are you on about?

N., Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh, a tardy. I see.

N., Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"i may be some time" by francis spufford (abt the nth and sth poles in the english imagination: very triffic) (ellie also please note)

SHOP EARLY FOR FEB!

mark s, Wednesday, 23 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Arctic and the imagination: go see the fabbo installation at the Wapping Project anytime now!

Also advance warning that it's nearly time for Tom to get his chequebook out again.

Tim, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i am not going to recommend anything to Tom, because:

a) he doesn't like the things i recommend
b) i like a load of old crap

gareth, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Mark s thank you. I rematerialise with my burgeoning Antarctic obsession to share that my copy of 'I May be Some Time' just arrived at Blackwells, o happy weekend. I am halfway through 'The Last Place on Earth' and even though I was expecting the anti-Scott story the sheer weight of Huntford's disgust is kind of overwhelming. It's hard to square the loyalty and decency of all the people involved in the Pole trip that Cherry-G's account exudes with the idiocy of the discourses of empire and of noble suffering, and the institutional idiocy of the Navy, and the personal idocy of Scott, that form H's framework for interpreting the attempt.

Also flicking through the Tom Crean biog; no thoughts yet.

Ellie, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tim - I get my chequebook out at payday each month (the 20th), besides which I havent started the Dunces book yet. Is there an online retailer which stocks the country music CD AND takes switch? I am without credit card for my own good at the moment.

Hooray Ellie is back!

Tom, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

huntford = very perceptive on dark undercurrents, but yes poor on how exactly this obv contradictory, sometimes difficult and petulant man actually garnered so much the utter loyalty of ppl who really hadn't liked him that much (he puts it all down t THE ESTABLISHMENT CLOSING RANKS: which makes little sense when yr talking decades later)

(motivated also by anger at history's denigration of amundsen)

i read the COLDEST MARCH last week: susan solomon — an american meteorologist — is good i think on the strengths of edwardian science (huntford cd hardly be more indifferent to it, and is i suspect very unfair) but too easily swayed by the apparent romance of "sleep in the cold" as poor bowers called it at the end

spufford is brilliant: BUY IT TOM

mark s, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

new feb answers!

SPUFFORD SPUFFORD SPUFFORD

mark s, Saturday, 2 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two weeks pass...
what happened to this?

if you can find it somewhere, TRUE JIT by the Bhundu Boys (Warners WX129) = possibly saddest Zim-pop LP evah made, sad yes by virtue of what happened to the pore BBs (three of five dead within five years of an NME coverm, a Madonna-Wembley support slot, and this their best LP, savaged by the world-folk tyrants who policed their primary audience), but actually sad and spookily prescient anyway. I keep meaning to write about 'My Foolish Heart', which has the heartrending sleevenote elaboration "Don't let success go to your head"...

mark s, Sunday, 17 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Spufford seconded.

Ellie, Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two weeks pass...
it is march so HELLISH NELL (i may change my mind, but it does have the business with the "hidden monkey")

mark s, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think that Tom should buy ENDER'S GAME and THREE IMAGINARY BOYS.

Dan Perry, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

book = Brilliant Orange, can't remember the author but I've mentioned it before. Either that or men are from mars, women are from Venus ;-)

chris, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dan i do not think we will ever make Tom get Ender's Game. he has some sort of block or phobia baout it. i seem to remember EWING that there were 4 votes for it last time and you still bought Spufford even though it had fewer votes. so i second Dan - Enders Game hehehehehhe PH34R uz!

katie, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Enders Game. Ha ha hee hee.

Album, Tusk by Fleetwood Mac. Triple Album of joy.

Pete, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Is it payday yet? No. So I will be buying nothing until the new thread kicks off.

I still haven't read Dunces let alone Spufford. I got distracted by Simon Garfield's Mauve.

Tom, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ender's Game and that Cure album, yes indeed. Off you go.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think Tom should buy a Gameboy Advance and Golden Sun. Forget this book and music lark :)

jel --, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A taster: “Although few knew it at the time, Eva Carrière was Marthe Béraud, who had escaped adverse publicity in Algiers and pseudonymously formed an intimate relationship with [sculptor Juliette] Bisson, who took many of the photogaphs for [Bavarian psychologist Albert von] Schrenck-Notzing's Materialisationphänomene, published in 1913. Bisson was Eva’s Svengali, her influence… literally hypnotic, and Schrenck-Notzing was struck by the medium’s passivity, the most memorable evidence of which were physical examinations per rectum et vaginam... to check for concealed materials…

“A famous photograph shows a tangle of gauzy matter suspended from Eva’s bare breasts, alleged ectoplasm from which she moulded visible faces and body parts; another from 1913 shows her wearing nothing but a pained expression as she manifests a shrouded gentleman whose flat face some felt bore a striking resemblance to the King of Bulgaria. This theory was strengthened after the camera caught her head at an odd angle to reveal the back of a two-dimensional face bearing the word ‘MIRO’: part of the masthead of Le Miroire... Since paranormalist reasoning tends to be more sophist than Socratic, this evidence did not prove Eva was a fraud; rather it implied that some of her phenomena were not genuine. Schrenk-Notzing even speculated that these images were ‘ideoplasts’ — sharply recalled images (a habit of hysterical women, he argued) projected externally.”

Hellish Nell: Last of Britain's Witches, Malcolm Gaskill, 4th Estates, pp.91-92

mark s, Sunday, 10 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Taking Sides: Hellish Nell's 'hidden monkey' VS. Madam Blavatsky's baboon! (I love that line "Since paranormalist reasoning tends to be more sophist than Socratic, this evidence did not prove Eva was a fraud; rather it implied that some of her phenomena were not genuine." )

Andrew L, Sunday, 10 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

month half gone = new answers

mark s, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE.

Tom, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ANGER IS AN ENERGY.

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

IGNORANCE IS BLISS (just to restore the three-part list equilibrium).

Ellie, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

NONE IS A NUMBER (just to re-establish the acrostic as a thread game)

mark s, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

TROUSERS ARE A FORM OF LEG COVERING(just because I find the word 'trousers' inherently amusing)

RickyT, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

everyone in the world has probably already read it but if you have'n't : THE THIN MAN by DASHIELL HAMMETT.

duane, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I haven't hardly bought any records for agez but the last sale bin one i got is pretty good - MEAN'N'MOODY by Chris Spedding - it's a comp of stuff from 2 solo albums he did on Harvest circa 70-72 - the good stuff on it is like, umm well it's a bit like what i imagine the good stuff by Spiritualised to be like (I've hardly heard 'em but i've read about 'em).

duane, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two months pass...
Must buy both of the Cds available at this site... http://www.speedtrucker.com

you'll thank me later...

Truck Drivin' Man, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

two weeks pass...
Well, i would recomend one Pop Dell'Arte Record. Maybe "Free Pop" or "Sex Symbol". I know that nobody else will recomend this records, but still... Download on Audiogalaxy "All You Need Is Money", or "Bladin".

Alexandre Calado, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...
I found True Jit Mark!! Why was it savaged, it sounds lovely?

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 8 September 2002 19:54 (twenty-three years ago)

cz major label w.pop producer = total folkie sell-out (cf my argt with christoff on ilm)

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 8 September 2002 20:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, that. They look very uncomfortable on the sleeve.

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 8 September 2002 20:07 (twenty-three years ago)

It is indeed a good LP, but I mostly prefer Tsvimbodzemoto and Shabini. Mark is right as to why it was generally slagged, I'm sure. They stopped being pure and African enough - as long as they stuck with their historic Zimbabwean electric guitar pop, they were loved, but not only did they go for a more Western sound, they sang some of the album in English! Unspeakable, immoral, etc. Purism manifests in many forms, and while I guess it's possible some may be non-stupid, I can't think of any examples offhand.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 8 September 2002 20:14 (twenty-three years ago)

the sleeve was i think a weedy rip-off of a rather weird nme photo-session

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 8 September 2002 20:59 (twenty-three years ago)


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