trying not to use people...

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this is a request for advice, i suppose...

i've been seeing this girl for a couple months now & she is very nice but a tad boring. she's smart, we have similar interests, etc, but our interactions end up being more like me being obnoxious/making jokes & her laughing; her telling me things i already know; me feeling this RESTLESSNESS.

and she's always telling me how much she likes me. very sweet girl. also talks a lot about how she's very sensitive & exes have used her in the past, etc etc. so i feel a tad guilty....

on the other hand, i like being with her; i like the idea of her (of having a girlfriend), being able to call her whenever, going to her place, sleeping with her. but i am just not that excited about HER in particular, you know?

at the same time, this is the first real relationship i've had with anyone since i was very young... so i don't just want to break it off...

and was talking to someone the other day who said, hey, she's getting from you exactly what you're getting from her. but i don't know if i'm being duplicitous. & i also am not totally sure how i feel about her (again, am not terribly experienced...).

i dunno. anyone ever feel similarly? what do you do when you just genuinely don't KNOW how you feel about someone else? & haven't known now for a good two-odd months?

j c (j c), Sunday, 5 February 2006 04:02 (nineteen years ago)

You're obviously not happy with the relationship or you wouldn't be posting this. I'd say it's probably best all round if you broke it off - and if she asks why just tell her some drunk bloke on the internet made you do it.

chap who would dare to no longer work for the man (chap), Sunday, 5 February 2006 04:10 (nineteen years ago)

it's not that i'm unhappy really... just slightly bored.

also i think it might be better to be in a subpar relationship than single for another four or so years?

hm. thanks drunk bloke on the internet, though.

j c (j c), Sunday, 5 February 2006 04:13 (nineteen years ago)

I personally would WAY rather be single than in a subpar relationship - I have learnt this from experience. That's just my opinion, though.

chap who would dare to be drunk on the internet (chap), Sunday, 5 February 2006 04:15 (nineteen years ago)

otm, chap!

if you can't be happy being by yourself, you're probably not going to bring much to a relationship anyway.

tehresa (tehresa), Sunday, 5 February 2006 04:28 (nineteen years ago)

hmm but i think perhaps i am happier with her than by myself -- or i am happiest not with her, but knowing i can call her & see her anytime, by myself... yes...

i bring massive amounts of selfdepricating wit, at any rate... and elipses.

j c (j c), Sunday, 5 February 2006 04:32 (nineteen years ago)

hmm but i think perhaps i am happier with her than by myself -- or i am happiest not with her, but knowing i can call her & see her anytime, by myself... yes...

then you are just selfish and using her.

tehresa (tehresa), Sunday, 5 February 2006 04:33 (nineteen years ago)

I think the ability to be happily single is a very good skill to have - I have several friends who can't do it, and who have ended up hurting themselves and other people as a result.

chap who would dare to be drunk on the internet (chap), Sunday, 5 February 2006 04:35 (nineteen years ago)

chap and tehresa OTM.

How do you know your true love didn't just walk down the street you would have taken if you were snug but unsatisfied with your bed buddy?

truck-patch pixel farmer (my crop froze in the field) (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 5 February 2006 04:37 (nineteen years ago)

But of course "what if" is a dumb game to play, so never mind that post.

truck-patch pixel farmer (my crop froze in the field) (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 5 February 2006 04:37 (nineteen years ago)

but def keep the part about chap and i being otm!

tehresa (tehresa), Sunday, 5 February 2006 04:39 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, the OTM part was OTM!

truck-patch pixel farmer (my crop froze in the field) (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 5 February 2006 04:41 (nineteen years ago)

relationships are all boring. get used to it . the fun part is the chase.

Castel cAndy, Sunday, 5 February 2006 04:41 (nineteen years ago)

OTM.

xpost

chap who would dare to be drunk on the internet (chap), Sunday, 5 February 2006 04:41 (nineteen years ago)

i am selfish yes, but maybe i can have a really worthwhile (if temporary) relationship where this girl & i are both using each other to get what we need at this point in time (i.e. someone to call & affirm us, a different place to sleep, a feeling of non-singleness even if we are alone)? aren't most relationships about using people, on some level? i do not love her. i don't think she loves me...

or maybe you're right & i am just trying to justify myself.

i have never been anything but single before... happy single & sad single, excited single & bored single. hmm

i am too obnoxious for a truelove. who had four nice years to walk down the street and woo me. har har

j c (j c), Sunday, 5 February 2006 04:42 (nineteen years ago)

What it comes down to is you certainly shouldn't have a relationship just for the SAKE of having a relationship, no matter what your personal history (and believe me, I sympathise with you, I'm not such a wiz with the ladies myself).

chap who would dare to be drunk on the internet (chap), Sunday, 5 February 2006 04:48 (nineteen years ago)

aren't most relationships about using people, on some level?

No. All relationships involve spoken and unspoken negotiations between peers, but if you see it as using your partner to the extent you can get away with, and allowing yourself to be used to the extent you'll tolerate, you're not mature enough for a girlfriend. Let her go unless she's inflatable and battery powered.

truck-patch pixel farmer (my crop froze in the field) (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 5 February 2006 04:49 (nineteen years ago)

stop apologizing for your actions! do what you want to! take it all! go for the gold! find out by doing!

Mr Jones (Mr Jones), Sunday, 5 February 2006 04:52 (nineteen years ago)

i think perhaps (inevitably) i am oversimplifying the situation...

but then, i don't really know either what i want you all to convince me of.

i don't see it as using her; i don't know if i am using her. i think providing something someone needs in exchnage for them providing that for you is maybe OK. but maybe not.

i am not terribly mature, no. but then i don't really know how to get more mature, i dont think, aside from through interacting with other people & kind of figuring it out, eh?

j c (j c), Sunday, 5 February 2006 05:01 (nineteen years ago)

i don't see it as using her; i don't know if i am using her. i think providing something someone needs in exchnage for them providing that for you is maybe OK. but maybe not.

that's all fine but when you're under the umbrella of a "relationship" it could get messy. remember - girls are likely to downplay their feelings for you for a while because they're afraid of guys getting scared or freaked or feeling pressured and running away.

tehresa (tehresa), Sunday, 5 February 2006 05:04 (nineteen years ago)

this is probably true as i am obviously scared & freaked & feeling pressured & contemplating running... but i am not a guy, no maam.

j c (j c), Sunday, 5 February 2006 05:08 (nineteen years ago)

ok, so replace "guy" with "significant other"

tehresa (tehresa), Sunday, 5 February 2006 05:09 (nineteen years ago)

I still reckon by airing this in the way you have on a public forum the advice you're subconciously wating to hear is 'end it'.

xpost - interesting!

chap who would dare to be drunk on the internet (chap), Sunday, 5 February 2006 05:10 (nineteen years ago)

otm chap

seeking advice could = getting an excuse to end it and not feel quite as bad

tehresa (tehresa), Sunday, 5 February 2006 05:11 (nineteen years ago)

It is at least mature of you to question your motives though! By this you can maybe come to a better understanding of what exactly you really do want.

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 5 February 2006 05:12 (nineteen years ago)

yes i keep talking about this whole thing very negatively to everyone & then i wonder why i am involved at all... part of the whole mess i think is that i am hypercritical of everyone & i am especially hypercritical of this girl because in some way i feel like who she is reflects upon me. but then i wonder if i were to submit everyone to this level of criticism, would i find them all so dull eventually?

that is also perhaps why i don't know at all how i feel y'know? (which is the most upsetting part, because i always know exactly how i feel about everything & everyone... usually within a few minutes of meeting them)

j c (j c), Sunday, 5 February 2006 05:14 (nineteen years ago)

anyway... wanted to thank y'all for your advice & insight & such. given me some more stuff to think about, at least.

j c (j c), Sunday, 5 February 2006 05:30 (nineteen years ago)

i think providing something someone needs in exchnage for them providing that for you is maybe OK. but maybe not.

This is fine when both of you are seventy and looking for someone to share bills and chat with so you don't die alone. It's not okay when you're young and both of you still have a chance to get out there and find a truly fun and exciting relationship.

The only wise thing my younger brother ever said was "it's better to regret breaking up with someone than staying with them".

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Sunday, 5 February 2006 10:38 (nineteen years ago)

stay with her but cheat on her until she finds out

ken c (ken c), Sunday, 5 February 2006 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

What you're missing is that whether you're using her or not, YOU are going to end up unhappy if you stay in a relationship that doesn't excite you. You'll stop looking forward to seeing her, you'll resent her, you'll wish you could be single again, and THEN you'll probably start treating her a lot worse than you are at the moment.

Markelby (Mark C), Sunday, 5 February 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

I think, based on what you've said, that I'm pretty much in your situation. However you dress it up, being with someone you have lukewarm feelings towards just because there's no-one you actually do like at the moment is using them.

As for Ken's comment, so sadly OTM for me at the moment. i am basically waiting for her to get rid of me.

And Markelby also spot on. I have nothing really to add, merely that your situation is understandable, I know cos I understand it.

uptoeleven (uptoeleven), Sunday, 5 February 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

the clue's in the question - stop seeing her. unless you want to be karma's bitch.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 6 February 2006 01:50 (nineteen years ago)

five months pass...
thread revival: is it normal or is it horrible to start a relationship with someone you like but aren't that enthusiastic about (and who is more enthusiastic about you)? do you get to know them better and see if you warm up more, or is that using them?

Maria (Maria), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

normal. using them would be starting up the relationship for self-serving reasons even or especially if you didn'tlike him.

or her.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Normal. If the liking and enthusiasm had to be equal for a relationship to start up, they'd never happen.

Whitman Mayonnaise (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

just be flattered and see where it goes

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with normal, and it might get more exciting as it goes along, some people you warm up to.

I actually feel sorry for the original questioner. I think if you both know what you want/are getting from the relationship and are happy with less than 100% stars and roses then good luck to the pair of you. Maybe better off than devoting yourself to a search for people who make your pulse race but are not necessarily good to be around. E.g. if you had a history of abusive relationships then a non-abusive person might seem boring on some level but actually be the right one.

isadora (isadora), Sunday, 30 July 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

i wish casual dating still existed. i do not want to jump into a relationship with this person right now, but i could be persuaded...there just isn't any pulse-racing at this point. how do you express that well, though, rather than insultingly?

Maria (Maria), Monday, 31 July 2006 00:40 (nineteen years ago)

Say "I'm looking forward to getting to know you better (and see if you get my pulse-racing wink wink nudge nudge)". Just don't say the parenthetical part aloud. What is the deal nowadays, you have to jump into an exclusive, intense, gazing-into-each-other's-eyes-alone relationship right off the mark?

Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 31 July 2006 01:17 (nineteen years ago)

i wish casual dating still existed.

Who says it doesn't?

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 31 July 2006 03:25 (nineteen years ago)


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