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It's a board game. Tell me if you
i. already knew this
ii. have ever played

And then I will tell you...

mark s, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

... why I am asking

mark s, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i. No
ii. No

jamesmichaelward, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i. Yes. But it's not what I thought of when I saw the thread.

ii. No.

Tom, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

no on both counts

di, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i. Yes, but it's not what I thought of when I saw the thread.
ii. I think I once started to play it but decided that it was too difficult.
iii. I really liked your Pazz & Jop essay.
iv. What I did think of when I saw this thread was that my friend Naomi's daughter Lia likes *NSync's "Here We Go," and probably no word better describes Lia than the word "Go!"

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

1. Yes I knew about it;

2. No, have never played because I don't wish to possess that type of 'smarts';

3. But I have known some very nice people who played it (and a lot of them looked like the photos of Ned Raggett, sort of kind and clever).

Nancy Drew, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes and yes.

Josh, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I played this game for the first time ever LAST NIGHT, mark. Alas I played on a full-size board with friend Mattie and was utterly, hopelessly lost - it must have been my frustration-waves that your june 7th wrist-radio picked up. I have been told that a 9x9 board is best to begin on. I wonder.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i. yes. It is in "A Beautiful Mind." ii. no. Should this change?

felicity, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i. Yes, but not what I first thought of - I thought this thread might be a little 'racier'
ii. Yes, but not for a very long time. My older brother was in the Go Club!

Bill E, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Can I change my answer? I just realised I did already know that though I still haven't ever played it

jamesmichaelward, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The grasp of strategy required is much too taxing. This is also why I'm mediocre at NetFungus. I think all GO devotees are aged Japanese masters with inscrutable gazes and lightning-fast reflexes.

Pyth, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No no, there are like, teen Go competitions in Tokyo with thousands of participants, newspaper columns devoted to it, etc

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

1. Yes

2. If it's the game for which there is a commercial version called Othello (Placing white or black stones on a board one at a time, turning over all adjacent other-player's stones to get your color showing. I thought I heard this was Go), yes, else no.

nickn, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i. maybe

ii. no

iii. I thought of [human traffic] and then that horrid SW9, the best part of going to see was getting gangsta cred with double-hard bastard Northern chums by saying I walked down that street 3 weeks ago, then I realised go was go and [human traffic] was human traffic [I haf seen neever], and gave up.

Graham, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i. yes
ii. no

so what are you going to tell us?

Maria, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

is this going to be another pi-bashing thread?

ethan, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

if you want it to be, ethan: after all, pi is terrible...

but good call, yes, one of the few things i LIKED about pi was that they played go, not chess: and i'm just writing a review of A BEAUTIFUL MIND, which is also abt maths (kinda), and hey, THEY play go as well, not chess. and i wanted to try out here if go was totally an exotic mystery to one and all (= maths as exotic mystery to one and all) or actually everyone in the us esp. had a board in the home...

mark s, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Very timely, especially as the "Do I Need Calculus to be a Multimational[sic] Mogul?" thread turned into "Calculus: Search and Destroy."

felicity, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Katie Holmes!

jel, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i Yes

ii Yes (Great drinking game,like cricket)

But I am not convince I am you target demographic for this section what with me being a Multimational Mogul and ex-mathmo par mediocritus.

Pete, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i. Yes
ii. No. (nickn, it is not the same as Othello/Reversi/whathaveyou)

N., Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

1. Yes

2. No

Andrew L, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, Yes. (someone's bound to give you a No, Yes at somepoint)

Alan Trewartha, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

y/n tho' Othello champ '82 ov Maths Club

, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i. no ii. no. I think me and my sister maybe had two board games when we were growing up.

Nicole, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

what were they nicole? actually this is a seperate thread

mark s, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

At lunchtime I picked up a copy of 'A Void' by Georges Perec in a charity shop. According to the author blurb in the front: "He composed crossword puzzles and poetry, radio plays and a book on the game of Go"!

Andrew L, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i keep playing but i'm not getting any better.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Played once, got my ass handed to me. I just don't get the game. I can't even fool around with it like chess and still enjoy it. Also glad someone else dislikes Pi.

Vinnie, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Kind of like your bull-riding career, Tracer? ;)

felicity, Wednesday, 23 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well I'll tell ya, Felicity: you cain't get better when you're already the best. I'll take Ty Murray ANY DAY, and you can tell him that if you see him. * spits * A Japanese teenager however might present a problem.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 23 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

A Japanese teenager however might present a problem.

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Good luck, then, at the Go/bull-riding biathlon in Salt Lake next month. Bring home the gold.

felicity, Wednesday, 23 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

mark s, where can we read your review of "A Beautiful Mind?"

felicity, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

sight and sound upcoming issue (going to bed this week i guess as i phoned in correXions yesterday)

sad to say this time there was no room to explore the mathematical issues raised; also come to fiink of it i axtually didn't discuss go at all!! (partly i was asking to see if it was kinda known in the world, or more like wff'n'proof which only josh had heard of: ie merely a signifier for maths-types or total mysterioso exotica, as per the symbols for partial differentiation and CURL and DIV etc) (if it had been more the second prolly i wd have gone off on one with it: but TRACER! it was TRACER stayed my hand)

mark s, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

sad to say this time there was no room to explore the mathematical issues raised --------------------- Would a differential v. integral calculus FITE cheer you up any?

felicity, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

but TRACER! it was TRACER stayed my hand)

noooooo - I mean 'thank goodness' - I mean nooooooo...

but I'm not a math type or anything, and it signifies nothing to me. Beyond a certain chess-player whizkid stereotype. Oh, I see what you mean with the first thing. But who cares? It's NOT chess. Since I've been playing it (against this hunka junk and Mattie) people will SAY things near me, and the Go position that correponds to their conversation will flash before me! Like a hallucination. Whether they're slipping out, or building a wall. Are they getting trapped on purpose - part of a "snapback" strategy? What pieces have they given up for dead? Can you tell when you're in Atari or does it take you by surprise? I'm telling you, I SEE it (or my approximation of it). That's Rey Mysterioso Jr, right there. It freaks me right out. Bring the mystery, Mark. The only mystery to me is why, despite my neuraes-go-esia, I still lose like clockwork.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...
Rxy, that site possibly neglects to mention that it is played by CRAZY AGED MEN who speak ENTIRELY IN INSCRUTABLE PROVERBS and have MOUSTACHES. (Also they levitate).

Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 13 May 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Shit, wrong go thread!

Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 13 May 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

ha!

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 13 May 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...
i. yes;
ii. yes (but only on my computer).

cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i. yeah.
ii. tried once.

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i. yeah
ii. i miss mark s

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

i. yes
ii. yes but I'm not very good - but my brother is, he was in Japan representing Sweden in the amateur world Go championships a couple of months ago!

Hanna (Hanna), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I would love to play more Go. Maybe we can have an Internet ILX Go tournament or something!

Hanna (Hanna), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread happily reminds me of Tones On Tail. I've always avoided 'go' as I fear new addiction.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i. yes, but I think I learned that from the movies Mark mentioned upthread.

ii. no, and if it requires more math and strategy than chess, i don't think i'm there yet. give me another lifetime of playing chess first.

Harold Media (kenan), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing about Go is that it's really easy to learn, there are only like a handful of rules, much simpler than chess really. It just takes lots of practice and 'instinct' and not maths exactly but strategic thinking rather, to get good!

Hanna (Hanna), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i. yes.
ii. yes. i went to japan when i was in middle school, and the family we stayed with in Tokyo tried to teach us. they routinely kicked our asses because the game was fairly foreign to us (Pente & Othello are similar, but much more straightforward.)

The only board game i'm good at is Scrabble.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I was inspired by this image:

http://users.ox.ac.uk/~wadh1786/pairgo.jpg

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 19 September 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Possibly it should be our logo.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 19 September 2004 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah - but was it worth having to trek to Milton Keynes?

Bob Six (bobbysix), Sunday, 19 September 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I got a lift! And it was only an hour's drive. And I won chocolate too.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 19 September 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you a UKer, then?

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 19 September 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

And they had a MULBERRY TREE.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 19 September 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you a UKer, then?

Yes - but I lead a very pedestrian lifestyle (no car) = Milton Keynes an impossibility.

You get bonus points for climbing that Mulberry tree

Bob Six (bobbysix), Sunday, 19 September 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The guy I was with did!

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 19 September 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I climbed the plum tree, does that count?

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 19 September 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

(I love how it says "notifications were sent successfully after every message on this thread, like Mark S is still browsing through the thread with notepad and pencil being all "hm mlbrry tree = symbl fr derridean alwys-alrdy = GREAT GO UNSAID prhps obv?")

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 19 September 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I really love Go. Unfortunately I'm complete shit.

stephen morris (stephen morris), Sunday, 19 September 2004 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

At everything.

stephen morris (stephen morris), Sunday, 19 September 2004 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Come play! We are all rubbish, here.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Monday, 20 September 2004 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)

ok, I might will go along to this 'board games' meeting on monday and report back and hopefully start playing online KGS again (if the network will let me!)

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 30 September 2004 07:41 (twenty years ago)

Is this at aberdeen? Hope you are finding it good, there.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 30 September 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago)

don't ever visit.

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 30 September 2004 17:37 (twenty years ago)

I'm taking that personally.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 30 September 2004 17:39 (twenty years ago)

as a threat?

this computer, has no mouse.

I had my first pint of guinness, tonight.

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 30 September 2004 18:29 (twenty years ago)

i played Go last week, in a hookah bar in Prenzlauerberg, terribly

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Thursday, 30 September 2004 18:44 (twenty years ago)

I am trying to get a set of stones togethor by sending off requests to tile manufacturers for samples. So far I have three.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 30 September 2004 18:55 (twenty years ago)

beaten comprehensively, of course, by 9k KGS player. this was the first time in about a month (??) I'd used tht bit of my brain, though. more go players there than chess. and also some hott go-playing girls.

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:23 (twenty years ago)

Yay cozen!

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Have spent the last two days in frenzy of recruting and organizing for GoSoc Freshers' Fair stall. Tomorrow, we are next to Juggling and "She-she society". She-she society!

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 15:36 (twenty years ago)

hi hi she she.

yo, gee, I think I can get on the KGS servers here, um, so would you like to set up another lesson (/ game)?

you can reach me at this listed address or c o z e n @ g r a f f i t i . n e t

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:47 (twenty years ago)

In the "hero" film at the flicks at the moment one of the scenes (the best, to my mind) takes place at a Go House (although they call it a Chess House in the subtitles)

I've never played, but it looks fun. Anywhere online to learn?

Simon (flameproof) (Flameproof), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 12:10 (twenty years ago)

Sure! Try the first twelve thingies of http://playgo.to/interactive/index.html, that's more than you need to know before playing a game.

We play on kgs.kiseido.net, in the beginners and ILX rooms. It'd be good to see you there!

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:59 (twenty years ago)

C, I will when I can like walk, my life is insane at the moment. Sometime on the weekend?

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 16:00 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for the help Gravel, I'll give it a go!

Simon (flameproof) (Flameproof), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:10 (twenty years ago)

Someday I will get around to doing this. Go is kinda sexy.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Sexy, huh? Cool.

I seem like the only person in the ILX room lately, more people should come play!

JuliaA (j_bdules), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:55 (twenty years ago)

julia, hopefully I'll be around a bit, soon.

go & sake is good.

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 7 October 2004 18:10 (twenty years ago)

Right! I've been been insane busy lately, so sorry for not messaging you Cozen... if anyone wants to play or learn or teach me stuff sometime this weekend, just message me on AIM (alizeesque).

[if you can't use AIM, just use this)...

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Saturday, 9 October 2004 18:04 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
SHAMELESS PLUG

(This post is motivated by the fact that this ilxor wrote the user interface of the software advertised below. If it is seen as inappropriate by moderators or others, please delete.)

JellyFish AS, the company that made the classic JellyFish Backgammon, announces the release of the Windows go-playing program WinHonte 1.03, available from the WinHonte website. The software is priced at USD 29.90.

There is also a free trial version available – the limitations of this version are 1) saving of games is disabled, 2) playing strength is decreased after the first fifty stones. Apart from these limitations, it contains all the functionality of the full version.

OleM (OleM), Saturday, 5 February 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

I like winhonte! It plays some crazy shit sometimes, but NEURAL yo. Nice one, Ole.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Saturday, 5 February 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

NEURAL yay! The playing engine is none of my work, though.

Have you checked out the 1.03 version? The GUI is quite a bit nicer than the 0.94 or whichever version was the last one we released for free. The playing engine has been updated, too.

OleM (OleM), Saturday, 5 February 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

I feel so guilty.

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 5 February 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

you haven't played in an age, either? i play once in a while, but i feel like what had been developing-skillz sort of degraded into shit. but i'll still keep playing occasionally anyway, and probably become readdicted at some point....

JuliaA (j_bdules), Saturday, 5 February 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
I am down. I am a beginner again, tho. I mean, I don't even remember the rules, scoring &c.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

casuistry are playing a game and I flubbing the teaching really badly, just kinda intuiting all of my 'lessons' from memory. are hanna, julia, or greg around? who else plays go? I want to start playing again dammit!

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 19 March 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

more go!

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 19 March 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

i should really start playing again too, i haven't for awhile...we should play sometime, cozen.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Sunday, 20 March 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)

It went something like this.

(Game begins.)
Cas: [plays a stone]
Coz: [plays a stone]
Cas: [plays a stone]
Coz: [plays a stone]
Cas: [plays a stone]
Coz: Of course you realize that entire half of the board is lost for you, right?
Cas: WTF IS WITH THIS GAME?!

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 20 March 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

I have not heard of Go!! I am not very good at picking up new games. I think I will stick to chess.

Cathy (Cathy), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

1) i think so
2) no

N_RQ, Wednesday, 23 March 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)

http://playgo.to/interactive/ is still good, for learning.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

I just did that! It was indeed very helpy.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

Anyone still play this? I recently got into it and it's so great. Been playing on KGS and how refreshing to play an online game with people who are mostly friendly and respectful.

robertwolf8080, Sunday, 29 November 2009 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

KGS is really wonderful! Somehow it self-selects actual courteous people from the wild angry hordes at IGS.

I'm not playing much but I'm happy to play a teaching/handicap game if you want!

Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 29 November 2009 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

Let's set it up. I'm rw8080; usually play evenings, atlantic time.

robertwolf8080, Monday, 30 November 2009 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

Kawabata's Master of Go has several illustrations of the match between the two Masters - picked up enough to like about the novel despite not knowing anything about the game as its just as much about the background of the players, Japanese tradition, etc. but it got me interested. Seems to put chess in the shade in terms of tactics and strategy...

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 15:01 (fifteen years ago)


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