The Nation warns of impending "End of the Internet"

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I don't know enough about the subject to offer any insight, but here it is:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060213/chester

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 6 February 2006 04:02 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.forumspile.com/Goatse-Cookies.jpg

jimmy loves maryann, jimmy wants to be her man (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 6 February 2006 04:09 (nineteen years ago)

???

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 6 February 2006 04:10 (nineteen years ago)

I read this. It's a bit alarmist, but god knows what they could pull off in the US. The corps talk drivel though:

As Ed Whitacre, chairman and CEO of AT&T, told Business Week in November, "Why should they be allowed to use my pipes? The Internet can't be free in that sense, because we and the cable companies have made an investment, and for a Google or Yahoo! or Vonage or anybody to expect to use these pipes [for] free is nuts!"

They're not using them for free! The people who pay you for internet access are paying for them. It's exactly as if he'd said "Phones can't be free in that sense ... for a pizza joint or taxi company to expect to receive calls for free is nuts!"

(What's more, I imagine Google pay plenty for their pipes to their peers as well)

On the other hand, lots of companies have been hoping for ages to get really fine-grained internet charges. Download caps used to be unheard-of, now they're pretty common. How much longer till you're paying more to download music than email? I know squat about "deep packet searching" but if it can't be fooled, that's certainly a bit grim.

Perhaps this is why Google's so keen to set up its own network? They've been buying huge amounts of unused fiber capacity.

stet (stet), Monday, 6 February 2006 04:16 (nineteen years ago)

did you want me to post the real one? (xpost)

jimmy loves maryann, jimmy wants to be her man (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 6 February 2006 04:18 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I gets it.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 6 February 2006 04:27 (nineteen years ago)

xpost 99% of the internet use I value is divided between use of informational sites like Wikipedia, googling of news sites, ultra-low-tech stuff like ILX, and browsing (and occasionally buying) on sites like Amazon and eBay. If these companies start charging extra for use of all the entertainment crap on the net I'll just stop using it. I got rid of cable long ago and I wouldn't miss that stuff either.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 6 February 2006 04:32 (nineteen years ago)

I find it a bit alarmist only in the sense that "the web", as far as becoming a world-wide phenomenon is just a decade a half old now. People from the age of 18 to, I dunno, 75 are part of the same generation that saw this at the dawn of the 90s...

Maybe this is too optimistic, but I feel the people who will be in a position of power in a decade or so are part of the above generation, and are going to feel ambivalent about trying to derail the original internet and try to force-feed this more controlled Internet #2 on us.

I've been hearing this story in various incarnations for over a decade, and since the initial ones, Internet #2 was already supposed to have arrived by yesteryear or earlier. it didn't happen.

Dom iNut (donut), Monday, 6 February 2006 04:34 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmmm, goetse,cookiescx!

Dom iNut (donut), Monday, 6 February 2006 04:35 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know much about the subject, but it seems the main problem is the relative monopoly on internet lines. Perhaps (if this scenario were to come true) competition could be opened up for freer service if satelite internet were to grow?

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 6 February 2006 04:36 (nineteen years ago)

america will take a firm stand on its inalienable right to download upskirt photos.

jimmy loves maryann, jimmy wants to be her man (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 6 February 2006 04:38 (nineteen years ago)

damn straight! pornography will save us all.

i've read a little about the "net neutrality" thing. i don't know enough to have more than an uninformed opinion, but my uninformed opinion is that this stuff probably is alarmist, but it's a good kind of alarmism. because, i mean, of course the internet is going to change, along with the ways we use it. and of course people who see opportunities to consolidate money and power will try to take them. so it's good to have these fights at every step.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 6 February 2006 04:48 (nineteen years ago)

So they get rid of "the" internet, we all know there's more than one.

gordo heavyfoot (van dover), Monday, 6 February 2006 07:08 (nineteen years ago)

pipes!

RJG (RJG), Monday, 6 February 2006 08:16 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.1stmarijuanagrowerspage.com/marijuana-pipes-01.jpg

How can you own the pipes and be a narc at the same time, man?

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Monday, 6 February 2006 08:45 (nineteen years ago)


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