police-state chief Alberto Gonzales, lying or crazy?

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"President Washington, President Lincoln, President Wilson, President Roosevelt have all authorized electronic surveillance on a far broader scale."


http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/02/06.html#a7043

btw, The A.G. was not under oath yesterday...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/06/nsa.gonzales/index.html


Sen. Russ Feingold, a Wisconsin Democrat, accused Gonzales of misleading Congress during his 2005 confirmation hearings, when Feingold asked him whether the president could "authorize violations of the criminal law when there are duly enacted statutes, simply because he's commander in chief."

At the time, Gonzales called that a hypothetical situation and said, "It's not the policy or the agenda of this president to authorize actions that would be in contravention of our criminal statutes."

Monday, he said no laws were broken when Bush ordered the wiretapping program without court approval.

"I told the truth then. I'm telling the truth now," he said. "You asked about a hypothetical situation of the president of the United States authorizing electronic surveillance in violation of our criminal statutes. That has not occurred."

Feingold shot back that Gonzales "has taken mincing words to a new high."

"There's no question in my mind that when you answered the question that was a hypothetical you knew it was not a hypothetical -- and you were under oath at the time," he said.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 18:52 (twenty years ago)

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say... blatant, deliberate, intentional, flagrant, outright, bold-faced lying.

Hatch (Hatch), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 19:24 (twenty years ago)

Agreed.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 19:26 (twenty years ago)

wake me when the u.s. senate grows a pair. reading the nixon white house transcripts lately makes me long for those long-gone days when, like, people gave a shit.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 19:32 (twenty years ago)

But it's all just senatorial meddling! (That is, unsurprisingly, the actual name of the piece.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 19:34 (twenty years ago)

Only saw clips of the Q&A; is it Feingold and Leahy who don't give enough of a shit, or the public? I think unless a Bushite set the hearings room ablaze it wouldn't carry over to the next 12 hours.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 20:35 (twenty years ago)

of course he's lying, but i think in his mind he's just being a lawyer representing a client. lawyers say all kinds of amazing bullshit. he's playing to the jury, and he knows the jury isn't the senate.

in theory the a.g. (and have we ever before had an a.g. with the intials a.g.?) is an independent voice and blah blah blah, but this is the bush administration we're talking about. it doesn't matter how many times their "legal" arguments have been shot full of holes, they'll keep trotting them out until people just get tired of shooting at them. "message discipline" i think they call it.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:12 (twenty years ago)

the "Mayberry Machiavellis" (Krugman?)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:14 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

alberto!

http://en.epochtimes.com/news_images/2006-6-16-ag57266731.jpg

tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:02 (eighteen years ago)

"girl, let me touch you there..."

hstencil, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:02 (eighteen years ago)

I think he's gotten away with shit all of his life because of his wussy-sounding high voice and student council treasurer look.

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:03 (eighteen years ago)

good theory.

hstencil, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:03 (eighteen years ago)

he just doesn't give a fuck.

http://img.slate.com/media/1/123125/122986/2133915/2135227/060206_disp_gonzalezEX.jpg

tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:03 (eighteen years ago)

"she has huge... tracts of land"

hstencil, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:04 (eighteen years ago)

the fuck you lookin at?

http://static.crooksandliars.com/2007/05/a_gonzales.jpg

tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:04 (eighteen years ago)

your cock, senator.

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/28416/2006_02_06t134824_305x450_us_security_eavesdropping_gonzales.jpg

tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:06 (eighteen years ago)

best fwends

http://www.theliberalnews.com/images/196_SMIRK_2GONZ_N_BUSH.jpg

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:06 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.doublespeakshow.com/images/2006/07/alberto.jpg

tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:07 (eighteen years ago)

(according to google images alberto gonzales has spent his entire tenure testifying to congress.)

tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:08 (eighteen years ago)

but he still has time for the children. hero!

http://www.courttv.com/graphics/choices/new/teachers/activate_your_mind/sanjose_photo_gonzales1.jpg

tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:10 (eighteen years ago)

high-fives for everyone who ratted on their parents!

hstencil, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:10 (eighteen years ago)

and waiting in the wings...alberto jr. jr.

http://www.achievement.org/achievers/gon0/large/gon0-006.jpg

tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:12 (eighteen years ago)

yep, hair smells good. good job, son!

hstencil, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:12 (eighteen years ago)

http://xs313.xs.to/xs313/07113/AlbertoGonzalesPressConf13Mar07.jpg

tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:14 (eighteen years ago)

a man alone.

http://www.washblade.com/2005/6-24/news/national/gonzales,%20alberto.jpg

tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:17 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.dudehisattva.com/sanjayagonzales.jpg

Z S, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:20 (eighteen years ago)

uh

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:27 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.nlpoa.org/Miami2004-09-09.jpg

He knows he'll be pardoned, whatever Congress throws at him.

Eazy, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:50 (eighteen years ago)

No offense intended to the other man in that photo -- I just wanted a photo to accompany my pet theory.

Eazy, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:52 (eighteen years ago)

http://xs313.xs.to/xs313/07113/AlbertoGonzalesPressConf13Mar07.jpg

Oh sure, he's a mendacious fuckwit and ought to be keelhauled on general principle, but we were captivated by his solo a capella rendition of "The Lion Sleeps Tonight."

rogermexico., Wednesday, 25 July 2007 05:44 (eighteen years ago)

don't forget his fantastic hair.

tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 06:07 (eighteen years ago)

back atcha!

http://www.foxnews.com/images/277608/0_61_gonzales_alberto_030907.jpg

tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 06:09 (eighteen years ago)

you think this look means i have contempt for you? you're wrong. this look means i amuse myself with the depth of my contempt for you.

http://asapblogs.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/17/gonzales.jpg

tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 06:12 (eighteen years ago)

forget the lying and secret wiretapping and flouting the geneva conventions and appointing loyalists to the justice department - HIS SON'S HAIRCUT IS A CRIME

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, *Washington* authorized electronic surveillance?

Martin Van Burne, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

(according to google images alberto gonzales has spent his entire tenure testifying to congress.)

lolz. like his mentor Ed Meese!

btw is his son a wombat?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

Greenwald on point today:

That Alberto Gonzales is a serial liar -- including when he testifies under oath to Congress -- has been long-established, and few people now bother to dispute it. He has been lying to Congress' face about the NSA scandal since it first emerged in December of 2005. When he first testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee in February, 2006, he made a series of statements that turned out to be so obviously false that he was forced to send a lengthy letter "correcting" and retracting so many of the key answers he gave.
That is what Alberto Gonzales does. He lies to protect the President. And the President will never fire him. Gonzales isn't keeping his job despite his willingness to lie to Congress, but because of it. Congress has no choice to act meaningfully -- impeachment of Gonzeles and a Special Prosecutor -- and if they do not, then, I suppose, one could say that Congress deserves to be lied to

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

Schumer's point is that Gonzales was lying then and is covering his tracks now. This leads to a little theatrical moment. For the most part, the senators today don't try to hit Gonzales with questions he can't know the answers to. They want him to explain himself, not duck. Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., posted his questions last week on the Web. But this question was a surprise. When Gonzales says to Schumer, "I'd like to look at my responses" at the press conference, Schumer is ready to smoothly reply, "We'll bring them up to you right now."

"Good," Gonzales says, which he must immediately regret, because it's a trap. After some whispering from the row of aides sitting behind him, Gonzales says that he "did misspeak" at the June press conference, "but I went back and clarified it with a reporter." Which reporter? More whispering. "Dan Eggen, at the Washington Post, two days later." Schumer presses. Gonzales repeats, "I clarified my statement to the reporter." Then, after more questions and more whispering, "I didn't speak directly to the reporter." There's an intake of breath around the room, and it's not just from the women wearing pink whose hats and banner and mouth tape read "Fire Gonzales."

"What did your spokespeople say to him?" Schumer asks.

"I don't know," Gonzales answers.

http://www.slate.com/id/2171072/pagenum/2/

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

This doesn't bode well...

Gonzales could get say in states' executions
Proposed rules would let the attorney general sign off on 'fast tracking' death penalty appeals.
By Richard B. Schmitt, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
August 14, 2007

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department is putting the final touches on regulations that could give Atty. Gen. Alberto R. Gonzales important new sway over death penalty cases in California and other states, including the power to shorten the time that death row inmates have to appeal convictions to federal courts.

The rules implement a little-noticed provision in last year's reauthorization of the Patriot Act that gives the attorney general the power to decide whether individual states are providing adequate counsel for defendants in death penalty cases. The authority has been held by federal judges.

Under the rules now being prepared, if a state requested it and Gonzales agreed, prosecutors could use "fast track" procedures that could shave years off the time that a death row inmate has to appeal to the federal courts after conviction in a state court.

The move to shorten the appeals process and effectively speed up executions comes at a time of growing national concern about the fairness of the death penalty, underscored by the use of DNA testing to establish the innocence of more than a dozen death row inmates in recent years.

Amid the public debate, the number of people executed in the U.S. has declined steadily since the mid-1990s.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.stargods.org/ReincarnationOfTheSpiritsLennon.jpg

gabbneb, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

four months pass...

oh Alberto, you keep on giving even when yer gone...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/19/cia.tapes.ap/index.html

btw, he was named the American Bar Assoc Mag's LAWYER OF THE YEAR! (Is that like TIME's Person, "for good or ill"?)

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 20 December 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)


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