Help me plan a day or two in Cairo

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In exactly one month we're going to Egypt for two weeks with an initial stop briefly in England here.

My girlfriend, a travel agent, got us a deal on this tour I don't usually approve of tours but I think I'll manage, somehow. Our itinerary in Cairo includes the Egyptian Museum of Antiquities, the Mohammed Ali Mosque and a lunch at the Khan el-Khalili bazaar.

We have a day or two to kill in Cairo and I'm wondering if anyone has any good ideas.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

Bring a banjo and play "Froggy Went a Courtin'" all day in some local plaza.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently, there's a hole in the wall where the men can see it all.

andy --, Wednesday, 8 February 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm. Quite helpful. I'll keep these in mind.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

Good stuff -- I did a similar itinerary in a couple of years ago. Unforunately, no great advice given that your tour seems to hit all the heights.

We took our free day and got lost-ish in the Citadel and old city and chasen by adolescents. I don't think they threw rocks at us (the way the did in Morocco) but it was reasonably frightening, especially for the women in the group.

Definitely do the felucca thing in Luxor when you have the chance.

Mitya (mitya), Thursday, 9 February 2006 01:17 (nineteen years ago)

You may not regret a package tour in Egypt. When I went (summer '99) we found our tour guide to be amazingly knowledgable and also found ourselves quite glad that we didn't have to drive!

As far as what to do in Cairo, I'm sorry I can't remember anywhere in particular to direct you. The Khan el-Khalili bazaar was far and away my favorite.

Oh, and don't get tricked into accepting dinner on the train. It's almost certainly not paid for by your tickets and its not particularly good.

mikef (mfleming), Thursday, 9 February 2006 01:56 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks.

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 9 February 2006 05:41 (nineteen years ago)

Definitely do the felucca thing in Luxor when you have the chance.

Mkae sure there's a breeze though. We went for a felucca trp in Luxor and ended up having to listen to our teenage pilot and his girlfriend sucking face and giggling behind us, and there was no wind at all so we just sat there, revolving slowly in the tide. Embarrassing.

However, the greatest thing we did was to take a side tour to visit the Tombs of the Nobles. It's not covered by most of the main tours and isn't that cheap (I think we paid €100), but we got a minibus and a guide all to ourselves, lunch in a really nice roadside cafe, and some really, really excellent art history. We also got to visit the homes of some of the local people which are much the same as they have always been. It was wonderful. However, we forgot (or didn't know) to bring pens and little chocolate sweets to give the children we met. So my advice would be to bring pens and little chocolate sweets.
Also bring tapes of pop music. Your drivers will like them.
I would be far too chickenshit to go anywhere in Cairo on my own, so if I had a day or two spare I would say so to my tour guide and see what he or she could arrange. If they are a reputable company, the guides will be great.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 9 February 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

It's quite a reputable company and our package includes not only a cruise down the Nile for four nights from Abu Simbel to Luxor, but a trip on a felucca. I think we'll ask at our hotel where we can go that's easy and fun.

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 9 February 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...
I am becoming excited at the prospect of my first view of the Nile. We leave tomorrow night.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

Hampshire's not on the nile.

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 03:07 (nineteen years ago)

True, but Pamela wants to go to see Jane Austen's grave too, so Albion will have to do for a day or two.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 03:21 (nineteen years ago)

Have a good trip! Be careful in Luxor, didn't some mass tourist shooting happen a couple years ago?

andy --, Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya shot and killed 58 tourists and four Egyptians and wounded 26 others at the Hatshepsut Temple in the Valley of the Kings near Luxor on Nov 17, 1997. Not much I can do to be careful except refrain from wearing my 'Kiss Me, I'm Danish' t-shirt with an Israeli flag yamulka on my head.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
Just wanted to say that La Bodega (157 26 July St., Zamalek) was absolutely delicious.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

:-D Stories, photos!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

I just got back last night so the photos will have to wait a day or two. I will say that we got upgraded to Business Class on the flight from Heathrow to SFO yesterday which was very well received by yours truly. I drank a not insignificant amount of champagne and then dosed myself with an Ambien and slept for half the flight.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, (and don't tell my cats but) I met a a little tortoise-shell cat on the street in Garden City who followed me several blocks and who forced me to use every ounce of forebearance in my possession to keep from smuggling home. I went back to see her several times, and in the grand old tradition of love-struck swains since time immemorial, I brought her little (savory) tokens of my affection. She thanked me by satnding part-way on her hind legs and butting her forehead against my hand as I went to pet her.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

Wondrous. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

Also, Egyptian beer & wine is entirely potable. Who knew?

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

yay, I was wondering how your trip went!

Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

Yesterday, I saw more armed security/soldiers than I have ever seen in a city. The Arab League was meeting and Prince Charles was in town. It's weird being in a place where there are so many armed security personnel.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

When I look back upon it, my favorite thing was sailing in a felucca on the Nile at Aswan.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

It's a shame I didn't see this thread before - it has inspired one of my occasional feats of non-lurkerdom.

I lived just round the corner from La Bodega last year (I was in Cairo for four months). Did you try Maison Thomas as well? (Pretty much underneath). Undeniably the best pizza in the country, cheap given exchange rates, and open 24 hours. My last chaotic week was an entirely Maison Thomas-oriented dining experience.

Strangely, my friend picked up a stray kitten from el-mogamma (the distressingly large soviet-built building on Tahrir square nr. garden city). It domesticated well and didn't have rabies, thank god. It spent time sitting on my head, at which point I fell desperately in love with it.

You haven't lived till you've seen the Mubarak motorcade...

Bill (bill), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't, Bill. I didn't really have all that much free time after all and we had several pre-paid dinners in the Four Seasons, where the food was excellent. I never, ever dreamed I'd say this, but some of the best dim sum I've ever had was in the restaurant, Spice, in the hotel.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

I think the Four Seasons has a reputation as being pretty much the best at everything in the city. I wandered into the reception once and thought I was on another planet...the Egyptians have a tendency to give 5 stars to hotels that aren't really that good. But the Four Seasons, on the other hand.

And a good view too, I presume - if you were in the Garden City one (but the Giza one must be pretty fab too).

Bill (bill), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, we we're in the Garden City one, on the 17th floor at first, with a view of the pyramids (through the smog) in Giza. It's definitely a world apart.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

That smog...The first time I was in Cairo, and for a while this last time, I thought it was the mist from the Nile. (Which, in a way, some of it still could be). Then you gradually begin to realise exactly what it is (especially when it's 3 in the afternoon and it's still there) and why everyone's coughing all the time...

Bill (bill), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

oh man i want to go to egypt. maybe this coming winter. i'd like to go to st. katherines monastery in sinai too

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

I cannot tell you how pleased I was to feel the breeze coming off the sea in Alexandria.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

did you have any grilled fish in alexandria?

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

I did. Meh.

The fish I had on the Nile cruise and some lout, whatever that is, that I had at La Bodega, were excellent. I was in a slow moving, geriatric party of 18, so our food was often organized around more prosaic, practical factors than asthetic ones, but the place we went to in Alexandria was mentioned in my Rough Guide, so maybe I am just not that fond of the way they serve their fish.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

It's weird, if you stay just in Alexandria (which I've done, a couple of times...don't I sound like the smug git), you don't notice the breeze in the same way than if you turn up fresh from Cairo. All your clothes still stick to you, and it just feels hot. (Alexandria was for a while my absoloute favourite place on the planet - and also the possessor of the best bar I've ever been to, I think).

Amusing Alexandria story: they banned car horns, says my Alexandrian archaeologist friend. You can't hear the horns anymore, he says. As we walk along the corniche, horns blaring every which way. I think they like to feel superior to Cairo up there ;) - although actually the noise is less...

Bill (bill), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

I had some nice mullet in Alex (can't remember what the Arabic is - may well be 'lout'). The calamari is usually reliable.

Bill (bill), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

Our guide said that the local governor banned horns in Alex, but frankly, given the way Egyptians drive, I don't see how that would work. I was only there for a day, sadly. I'd love to go back.

The calamari we had was cut in wide, insipid, yet unpalatable strips. The fish, a white fish, that we had at Fish Market, I think was the name, was mere fried, breaded fish, though I did see people going up to choose the fish they wanted cooked. The restaurant also had mussels, which would have appealed to me.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

I know. The horn is necessary for other drivers and pedestrians. After a while (and maybe you did?) you really get into the rhythm and understand that drivers and pedestrians are working in harmony to avoid killing each other. It's really quite sweet.

This might be a product of the local governor (Mahgoub) being a semi-godlike folk hero, then: he's utterly beloved of the people, from what I've seen/read.

Never been to Fish Market. It was always easier not to cross 6 lanes of traffic and go somewhere else!

Bill (bill), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)


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