Yes, I'm a straight male but when I see a photo of a (clothed) man who really has it, who really exudes sex appeal, I can sense it well enough, I can get the vibe. A photo of a naked guy with an erection never does that, though. I'm interested to know how people respond to such images, and why they almost always come across as ridiculous. Is ridicule some sort of way of warding off the threat of the phallus, which remains pretty taboo? Is self-exposure for the gaze of the other something we subconconsciously associate with the feminine therefore when we see it in a man it's always cheesy, unmasculine?
(This is a serious thread and although I know it'll get countless inane 'comedy' responses, I'd be grateful if you'd refrain from posting NSFW pics, or if you do want to illustrate your point post the URL rather than the pic itself.)
― Keith Lacan, Thursday, 9 February 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)
― She's been known to sleep on piles of dry leaves... (papa november), Thursday, 9 February 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)
― Keith Lacan, Thursday, 9 February 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)
WRT pictures of naked men, it depends on who the man is, the situation, the atmosphere, a million different things. I don't object to erect penises, or find them unsexy in principle or example, but sexiness, for me, depends on things other than simple medically explicit photos of body parts.
― She's In Parties (kate), Thursday, 9 February 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 9 February 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 9 February 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)
(Actually I might have thought of a counter example, classical Greek imagery, those sexually explicit images on pots, often with men with erections. They don't necessarily look ridiculous.)
― Keith Lacan, Thursday, 9 February 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)
(x-post)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 9 February 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)
― Keith Lacan, Thursday, 9 February 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)
There's so little pr0n for women ... that isn't rubbish. Gay pr0n knows how to make naked, erect men actually look... enticing and, well, sexy.
― She's In Parties (kate), Thursday, 9 February 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)
― Keith Lacan, Thursday, 9 February 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)
Carry on, then...
― She's In Parties (kate), Thursday, 9 February 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 9 February 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 9 February 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)
Oh, I see. This is going to be another thread of men discussing the "mascline" and "feminine" roles, and no attention whatsoever will be paid to the actual experiences and opinion of actual women.Carry on, then...
Who said so? I'm certainly interested in people's personal experiences, but I think these things are interesting in a general culture level as well. It's kinda hard to differentiate the two.
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 9 February 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)
Hey, I did respond to your initial post.
But if women really wanted lots of pr0n with naked, erect men, wouldn't it already exist (in our market-driven world)?
― Keith Lacan, Thursday, 9 February 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 9 February 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Keith Lacan, Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)
― She's In Parties (kate), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)
Porn *for* women... well, a great deal of it is traditionally just all that Mills and Boon stuff. That generally just doesn't do it for me. I've read some newer womens erotica/porn - Black Lace and that kind of thing - and it's generally too focused purely on the act, and not on the atmosphere. To *my* tastes, it seems too modelled on male porn.
― She's In Parties (kate), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)
Lots of what actually gets women off, is not what men would consider porn at all. Boybands, fan fiction - there's a whole subgenre of womens' porn which is just about angst. It has next to no sex at all, but it's pure emotional pornography, men being vulnerable *emotionally*, being distraught or upset - which is much more erotic to women than the traditional "here is a person (male) being vulnerable by being nekkid" aspect of straight porn.
(Mills and Boone (probably mispelled) is womens romance novels - soft porn at best, bodice rippers, that sort of thing.)
― She's In Parties (kate), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)
and presumably this can be completely detached from any notion of maternalism.
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)
((Lesbian porn is a completely different kettle of fish. I read quite a lot when I was younger, it tended to either be astonishingly perverted or indecipherable))
― She's In Parties (kate), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)
― She's In Parties (kate), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)
xpoost
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)
I wouldn't completely rule out some kind of equivalent if perhaps warped paternal aspect though.
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)
This is semi-apropos of nothing, right?
― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)
can i borrow some of this porn you have? it sounds ace!
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)
― mint, Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)
― mint, Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.aboutbritain.com/images/towns/CerneAbbas1.jpg
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)
dash off an angry letter to the editor, usually. never does any good though
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)
Quite happily. I'm a straight female, and have always enjoyed looking at naked/semi-naked guys (also naked/semi-naked women who aren't too artificial). Don't send me any though, I'll find my own, thanks.
― Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)
Archaeologists' porn!!!!!
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 9 February 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)
I don't understand what's funny about my semi comment. :-(
― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 9 February 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)
― mint, Thursday, 9 February 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)
The phallus has many faces: powerful or vulnerable; "cool'n'sexy" or ridiculous. The potential for silliness here comes from the fact that erections are somewhat involuntary changes in a body part --a body part that, more than others, seems to "have a mind of its own", and at full mast especially seems like an accessory that is not of one piece with the rest of the body. In that sense, the hardon is like a garish flag signalling various internal states (horniness, the need to go pee in the morning, etc...), whether the custodian of that flag wishes to make such announcements or not.
Now, naked guys with hardons can look v. sexy to many, but if you're not particularly attracted to men (or feel shame about the genitals) in the first place, this potential sexiness can get overshadowed by the absurdity potential.
― Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Thursday, 9 February 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)
http://de.fishki.net/picsn/podbor15_40.jpg
― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 9 February 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)
dud: picture of some pasty guy sitting in a computer chair gripping his unimpressive erection.
― straight, believe it or not, Thursday, 9 February 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 9 February 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)
xpost
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)
"Why, back in the navy used to see them all the time..."
Sorry.
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 9 February 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 9 February 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 9 February 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 9 February 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 9 February 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 9 February 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 9 February 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)
Cocks are Teh Cuet!
Mr Limpy! : https://www.fleshlight.com/main/product_info.php?products_id=36?ref=54586
― Merryweather (scarlet), Thursday, 9 February 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)
:(
― Merryweather (scarlet), Thursday, 9 February 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)
― AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 9 February 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)
― Maria (Maria), Thursday, 9 February 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)
I can't relate to this at all. I like to see naked people having sex. I can't be bothered thinking up some emotional fantasy every time I want a quick orgasm.
― a female ilxor, Thursday, 9 February 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 February 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 9 February 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)
but surely when you already have a boner...
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 February 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)
― Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)
I dont imagine I'm the usual, however.
― tr4yce (trayce), Friday, 10 February 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 10 February 2006 04:11 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 February 2006 04:25 (nineteen years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 10 February 2006 04:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Sl (sgh), Friday, 10 February 2006 07:34 (nineteen years ago)