Is it ok to use olive oil that's three years past it's best before date?

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My mum's just found some really nice looking bottles with all chilli and stuff in that were intended as a present and has given them to me. I can't think of anything that might really go off in olive oil, so is the best before date just to tell you when they'll be at their peak taste-wise, or will I die if I consume any? Is my mother trying to kill me?

chap who would dare to be completely sober on the internet (chap), Saturday, 11 February 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

try a spoonful, and if you feel yourself dying a little inside, don't have any more!

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 11 February 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

if it smells rancid, it'll taste rancid too. there's your answer!

having fun with stockholm cindy on stage (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 11 February 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

From Surprising expiration dates:

Olive Oil
2 years from manufacture date (After this time, color or flavor may be affected, but product is still generally safe to consume.)

Their absolute times (two years, thirteen months, etc.) seem a bit wacky, but the advice that it is "generally safe to consume" is probably OK.

Mike W (caek), Saturday, 11 February 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

who was this person very recently who ate 50 year old canned chicken and it was still fine?

clodia pulchra (emo by proxy), Saturday, 11 February 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/4693520.stm

Mike W (caek), Saturday, 11 February 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Well I'm going to grasp the nettle and fry some salmon in the oil tonight. If I don't check in tomorrow assume the worst.

chap who would dare to be completely sober on the internet (chap), Saturday, 11 February 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Before you put the salmon in, you'll smell it if the oil has gone rancid. As as been said, that's all you need to worry about.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 11 February 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

I was really sick once from rancid oil.
But it stopped at vomiting (and very sudden unexpected at that) and I was fine afterwards.

clodia pulchra (emo by proxy), Saturday, 11 February 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'm pretty wary of any oil infused with vegetables - botulism fun! They say that if you heat it up (cook with it on heat higher than medium) for longer than 5 minutes, the botulism is destroyed. But, hrm, I think my enjoyment of the food would suffer because I'd be worried about the safety of the oil, even if it turns out to be fine! My answer is: ick, throw it out.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Saturday, 11 February 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

"Commercially-prepared products stored in oil that contain an acid (such as vinegar) or salt in their list of ingredients are generally considered to be safe. These products are processed using technology not commonly available to consumers. They should, however, be refrigerated after opening and between each use. If in doubt about the ingredients in a particular product, consumers can contact the manufacturer."

From: http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/corpaffr/foodfacts/herbsoile.shtml

If it's got an expiration date, well, it's probably there for a reason. (no matter what people will tell you about the conspiracy re: exp dates.)

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Saturday, 11 February 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)


I use olive oil every day, so I wouldn't know.

patrick bateman (mickeygraft), Saturday, 11 February 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

just because olive oil CAN stay good for up to a couple of years doesn't mean it will -- it depends on how well it's stored. olive oil doesn't like humidity or too much exposure to air.

having fun with stockholm cindy on stage (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 11 February 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

It's not a conspiracy, it's just they play it very safe.

Olive oil tends to solidify and go cloudy in the fridge. A larder's best, but who has a larder? I just tend to buy smallish bottles and leave them out.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 11 February 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

I'm mostly worried about the vegetable matter that he said was in there.

(haha, yeah, "conspiracy," I know. I have eaten plently of things that have gone past their exp date or "best before" date, but not all that far past... and def not 3 years past.)

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Saturday, 11 February 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

The vegetables all look nice and well-pickled.

chap who would dare to be completely sober on the internet (chap), Saturday, 11 February 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

We use so much olive oil we now buy 4 litre cans instead of bottles.

But anyway, have a little taste and take it from there. If you die, then it's proably not safe to consume.

ratty, Saturday, 11 February 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

I just ate my salmon. Fine so far.

chap who would dare to be completely sober on the internet (chap), Saturday, 11 February 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

It was extremely nice, incidentally.

chap who would dare to be completely sober on the internet (chap), Saturday, 11 February 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

YAY. you did not die.

clodia pulchra (emo by proxy), Saturday, 11 February 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

Early days yet.

chap who would dare to be completely sober on the internet (chap), Saturday, 11 February 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

Still alive. My vision is fuzzy and my motor skills are depleted, though. Probably not the oil's fault.

chap who would dare to be drunk on the internet (chap), Sunday, 12 February 2006 01:14 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I was too harsh on the oil. But y'know, I was thinking about this (yes, yes I was) and how even if someone said, Go ahead, eat that oil, and then I did, I would probably, in the back of my mind, worry about it for a few days, thinking every ache or pain or inability to remember something was indicative of poisoning. So maybe it's really a question of personality over food safety. The fearless shall overcome, etc.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Sunday, 12 February 2006 06:41 (nineteen years ago)

botulism = v.quick

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 12 February 2006 11:09 (nineteen years ago)

Are you dead yet? Post once for yes and twice for no.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 12 February 2006 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

Bad olive oil smells of bananas or somewhat nutty - FYI!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr Jones (Mr Jones), Sunday, 12 February 2006 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

I only recently found out that there's a difference between "best before" and some other... Shit I can't remember. But yeah sometimes it's okay to use foods after they have expired.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Sunday, 12 February 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

It would seem that the oil's fine.

chap who would dare to be hungover on the internet (chap), Sunday, 12 February 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

That which does not kill you only makes you stronger. (Strokes notwithstanding.)

Mike W (caek), Sunday, 12 February 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

four years pass...

Food snobs: do you have a preferred brand of olive oil? Cook's Illustrated recommended Colavita and it's pretty good.

mother cabrini maxwell (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:31 (fifteen years ago)

i buy my olive oil from my butcher, who sells it unlabeled bottles - the oil comes from his family olive grove in italy.

~ultimate food snob answer~

candid gamera (s1ocki), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:38 (fifteen years ago)

whoa, I want

mother cabrini maxwell (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:39 (fifteen years ago)

If you ask a food snob, they'll be tempted to recommend something very, very expensive that tastes like ambrosia and you can swig it straight from the bottle. You might want to specify how you'll use it. For everyday cooking use, I would use the common-as-dirt and consequently inexpensive variety, in my case Trader Joe's house brand.

Aimless, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:39 (fifteen years ago)

i read recently that the spanish stuff is as good as italian... is this true??

dude (del), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:41 (fifteen years ago)

there's no reason it can't be, but finding it might be tough.
but if you're in the states there's some really fine extra virgin oil pressed in california. McEvoy is one i vouch for that's relatively affordable and super for drizzling purposes.

KC & the sunshine banned (outdoor_miner), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:48 (fifteen years ago)

Opinions about when to cook with olive oil and when to cook with other oils: I have never really shaken the feeling that the giant yellow bottle of "vegetable oil" my mother always had on the shelf is kind of gross, and have always used OO for sautees, basting, etc. But the low smoke point is sometimes a problem, and now my co-chef prefers veg oil for most stovetop uses. Thoughts?

I've got ten bucks. SURPRISE ME. (Laurel), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:54 (fifteen years ago)

It's ok to use light olive oil for cooking -- the smoke point is close if not more than vegetable oil. I would stay away from using extra virgin olive oil for sautes -- it's a waste of good olive oil

righteousmaelstrom, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:58 (fifteen years ago)

I only buy one kind, just keep a big bottle around and never really distinguished before. One of those things I chalk up to "Maybe when I have enough cupboards to keep multiples in."

I've got ten bucks. SURPRISE ME. (Laurel), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:01 (fifteen years ago)

canola is my everyday-use big yellow bottle

i use extra-virg olive mostly in italian garlicky or sometimes in mexican onion-y dishes, or when it's specifically called-for in a recipe

otherwise it's the big gross yellow bottle... and sometimes some sesame in asian things

dude (del), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:01 (fifteen years ago)

Back to the original question, I just realized that the peanut oil I've been occasionally using expired in 2004. Whoops.

Darin, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:02 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, discard it

dude (del), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:05 (fifteen years ago)

i use plain ol' olive oil for everyday cooking, vegetable oil grosses me out
extra virgin oil is for salads/drizzling and such

fakey (buzza), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:09 (fifteen years ago)

I use canola and peanut for stovetop applications and extra virgin olive oil for vinaigrettes and italian sauces.

Extra virgin olive oil works great for confit, btw.

righteousmaelstrom, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:10 (fifteen years ago)

i use grapeseed for high-smoke point / dont want the olive taste times

candid gamera (s1ocki), Thursday, 28 October 2010 01:44 (fifteen years ago)

Hard to find a variety of olive oils around here, so I just use Bertolli. :/
NoCal was mind-boggling with the number of choices available.

Sauteeing: butter, olive oil, or half and half
Shallow frying, deep frying: canola

Unfrozen Caveman Board-Lawyer (WmC), Thursday, 28 October 2010 02:05 (fifteen years ago)

Half and half butter/oil works well for the sautee, yeah

At home we use peanut oil for high heat, and whatever cheap organic versions of olive oil are available for salads and such - Newman's, Natural Directions, Spectrum, etc.

At my job we use basic bulk olive oil in the major recipe bases, but we have a small bottle of the really good stuff to use as a finish to the plates. It's a nice compromise as opposed to using expensive stuff for everything.

sleeve, Thursday, 28 October 2010 02:14 (fifteen years ago)

really want to try avocado oil for high heat stir fries/deep frying

also rice bran oil

dayo, Thursday, 28 October 2010 02:20 (fifteen years ago)

Giant Costco olive oil for every day, canola or peanut oil for stirfry, canola for baking/ generic use, local EVOO for dressings, salads, dipping, etc.

That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 28 October 2010 02:27 (fifteen years ago)

Cook's Illustrated recommended Colavita and it's pretty good.

yeah, my mom has been recommending colavita forever, and i do too. reasonable price, available everywhere, tastes great. other than that, i usually just buy whatever looks interesting and is massively on sale.

2nd the opinion of others here that fruity, extra-virgin, first cold press (etc.) olive oil is best for drizzling, tossing, dipping, salad dressing, etc. maybe for quick sauteing (like shrimp and garlic, f'rinstance) or added to cooked dishes at the end for flavor, but definitely not something to pan fry onions in. for that kinda stuff, light olive oil or veg oil.

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Thursday, 28 October 2010 03:24 (fifteen years ago)

plus those shrimp and garlics really oughtta be in some butter, splash of vermouth

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Thursday, 28 October 2010 03:25 (fifteen years ago)

^^^guy knows his shrimps and garlics

17th Century Catholic Spain (Abbbottt), Thursday, 28 October 2010 04:08 (fifteen years ago)

To be more specific I was talking about common supermarket brands. All of the other ones seem to taste not that awesome. And yeah, using extra virg for cooking seems like a waste and also not v smart because of the low smoke point. I need to pick up a bottle of regular olive oil too for panfrying and such.

Shallots Are As Good As Joyce Brothers (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 28 October 2010 17:33 (fifteen years ago)

I use colavita evoo for cooking (sorry Stevie) and paesano (sp?) for drizzling. Colavita isn't really too pricey and if it is a super high temp application (like a stir fry) I use peanut.

quincie, Thursday, 28 October 2010 17:57 (fifteen years ago)

stop that rhyming and i mean it

candid gamera (s1ocki), Thursday, 28 October 2010 17:59 (fifteen years ago)

i hear them vietnams are good shrimp.

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:04 (fifteen years ago)

Colavita's a pretty common brand you can get here in supermarkets, as is Lupi and Bertolli. Interestingly the Spanish olive oils are heaps cheaper. I've tried them and I find them more bitter and not to my liking. I'd never fry/sautee with evoo, I use it strictly for dressings and drizzing on tomatoes/bocconcini etc.

I read something recently that claimed a lot of the italian/spanish stuff on sale here is really old and has been in shipping for a long time. I must try some Australian olive oil and compare the taste.

Sunn O))) Sundae Smile (Trayce), Friday, 29 October 2010 02:09 (fifteen years ago)

this should be read by everyone on this thread

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/08/13/070813fa_fact_mueller

candid gamera (s1ocki), Friday, 29 October 2010 04:50 (fifteen years ago)

Haa. Its a good racket!

Sunn O))) Sundae Smile (Trayce), Friday, 29 October 2010 05:25 (fifteen years ago)


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