Jermey Irons - classic or dud?

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OK, so he belongs to a rather annoying sub-species of the film world: the posh, well-turned out, emotionally distant, well-chiselled British actor. File with Michael York, Dirk Bogarde etc. But you have to admit he's been in some pretty good movies: Betrayal, Un Amour de Swann, Dead Ringers... he's apparently in the next David Lynch as well. So what say you, JEREMY IRONS, CLASSIC OR DUD?

― Anita..., Monday, 13 February 2006 11:42 (twenty years ago)

Umm... "Jermey", yeah.

― Anita..., Monday, 13 February 2006 11:46 (twenty years ago)

Was he in Play School or Play Away?

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 13 February 2006 11:47 (twenty years ago)

Classic - Brideshead Revisited. Can't think of any dud, he knows what his roles are and sticks to them.

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Monday, 13 February 2006 11:48 (twenty years ago)

There's something about his face which makes me think he'd be an uninvolved sort of godfather.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 13 February 2006 11:53 (twenty years ago)

Classic - he's got that sort of hair where you can see the comb marks
after he's brushed it. Also he was in Danny Champion Of The World which is great.

― JohnFoxxsJuno (JohnFoxxsJuno), Monday, 13 February 2006 13:20 (twenty years ago)

I used to like him for a certain genre of Creepy Bastard acting. When I lived in Hampstead years ago he had a house down the road. He hasn't mentioned W311 W@1k in interviews for some time, so I think he must have moved along, too.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 13 February 2006 13:38 (twenty years ago)

http://justjustin.nsync.nu/emoticonsforjjb/drool.gif

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 13 February 2006 14:03 (twenty years ago)

He didn't make that many classic films; too often he didn't mind being cast as The Patron Saint of Perverse Sexuality.

His performance in Dead Ringers is beyond classic; I can't believe it wasn't Oscar-nominated. I've also enjoyed him in Reversal of Fortune and most recently in Being Julia.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 13 February 2006 14:06 (twenty years ago)

http://www.cyke.com/lionking/images/p_scar.jpg

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 February 2006 14:10 (twenty years ago)

Keep in mind, however:

http://www.members.tripod.com/ozmovies/_borders/out_this_week_dungeons_and_dragons.jpg

http://splunge.net.au/events/jeremy-irons-film-festival/time_machine.jpg

― phil d. (Phil D.), Monday, 13 February 2006 14:21 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I'd like to employ Jeremy Irons to give people tickings-off.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 13 February 2006 14:24 (twenty years ago)

"You have no idea"

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 13 February 2006 14:26 (twenty years ago)

Damage!! One of the worst films I've ever seen!

However, he is otherwise completely classic.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 13 February 2006 14:33 (twenty years ago)

http://www.spanishhampers.co.uk/cart/DEBteruel.gif

This is a Serrano ham. In terms of hams, Jeremy is a nice bit of Speck.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 13 February 2006 14:39 (twenty years ago)

ACtually that time machine thing was terrible but not because of him. He did his best with the material supplied!!!!

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Monday, 13 February 2006 14:40 (twenty years ago)

The Time Machine RULES!!! What wrong with you?????

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 13 February 2006 14:57 (twenty years ago)

Morlock!

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 13 February 2006 14:59 (twenty years ago)

His Karloff voice in Reversal of Fortune rocked, as did his thanking Cronenberg in his Oscar speech.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 February 2006 15:32 (twenty years ago)

Dead Ringers. Two Jeremy Irons. Fantastic

― olenska (olenska), Monday, 13 February 2006 15:57 (twenty years ago)

I have a friend who lives on W311 W4lk!

― Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 13 February 2006 16:02 (twenty years ago)

I stayed at the hotel where some of Betrayal was filmed when I was about 11 or 12. Very nice it was too, and just around the corner from Scotland Yard.

― JohnFoxxsJuno (JohnFoxxsJuno), Monday, 13 February 2006 16:35 (twenty years ago)

why is this an annoying sub-species of the film world? i love these guys!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 13 February 2006 16:45 (twenty years ago)

i love dirk bogarde?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 13 February 2006 16:45 (twenty years ago)

Well, there are some good actors within that sub-species, but there are also a lot who just get by on public-school charm and not a lot else. ie Hugh Grant, Anthony Andrews, or even Ralph Fiennes.

― Anita..., Monday, 13 February 2006 16:58 (twenty years ago)

I think Anita has traced the line very accurately. Not even Ralph Fiennes should be regarded one of "them".

A friend of mine used to speak about "The League of the Lean"-that included females, such as the two lovely Hepburns

― olenska (olenska), Monday, 13 February 2006 17:05 (twenty years ago)

i mean "i love dirk bogarde!" (not the exclamation mark)

ralph fiennes is a terrific actor, i think. and hugh grant can be quite good as well!

getting by on charm is not to be undervalued in actors, i think... that's 75% of acting right there!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 13 February 2006 17:08 (twenty years ago)

I went to see Ralph Fiennes in The Faith Healer the other night. He was mesmerising. He makes everyone else in the world sound like some awful rasping crow.

Except Jeremy Irons, of course.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 13 February 2006 17:15 (twenty years ago)

Well, I take back what I said about Fiennes - I really haven't seen enough of his work to judge. Didn't like The English Patient though.

As for "charm", yes, it is important so I guess it's not quite that which sometimes irks me about this sub-species of actor. Maybe it's more just a lazy stereotype they tend to fall into because they can, ie they have the floppy-haired looks and the upper-class charm. I mean, Hugh Grant is just "Hugh Grant" in all his movies, isn't he? Can you imagine Hugh Grant doing Dead Ringers?

― Anita..., Monday, 13 February 2006 17:26 (twenty years ago)

And I don't think it's necessarily bad that an actor essentially plays the same role in all his movies - after all, so many golden era Hollywood actors did. But the standoffish yet charming, lean posh English boy has become a little too much of a cliché. You actually have to do something with it now, give it a twist.

― Anita..., Monday, 13 February 2006 17:32 (twenty years ago)

http://film.spettacolo.virgilio.it/imgbank/GALLERY/AL/03128612.jpg

Er, wait.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 February 2006 17:33 (twenty years ago)

"Chinese Box" is one of the most underrated movies of all time. I have a memory of some medieval-ish movie, perhaps "The Man in the Iron Mask" (was he in that?), that I didn't like. But that's the only one.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Monday, 13 February 2006 18:50 (twenty years ago)

I forget that he was pretty good in last year's Merchant of Venice opposite Al Pacino; and was the saving grace of Kingdom of Heaven.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 13 February 2006 18:53 (twenty years ago)

If Kingdom of Heaven had been about his character instead of Ornaldo Bloomps it would have been an interesting movie.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 13 February 2006 19:38 (twenty years ago)

Agreed.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 13 February 2006 19:48 (twenty years ago)

I'd forgotten about Chinese Box!

I literally ran into him on my way back to the bathroom of Le Sancerre on Rue des Abbesses a few years ago. There was an afro-jazz quartet playing and the place was a little raucous and quite crowded and seeing him I was a little shocked at first and as I squeezed past him I said, 'Excuse me, Mr. Irons' and he gave me a little expression that at once conveyed that it wasn't a big deal but also that he was kind of bummed to be recognized.

― M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 13 February 2006 19:56 (twenty years ago)

I've been there loads of times, beginning when brought to Paris for the first time, and weirdly was thinking about La Sencerre last night.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 13 February 2006 19:59 (twenty years ago)

Alfred, Being Julia is the one based on Maugham's 'Theater', right?

― M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 13 February 2006 20:03 (twenty years ago)

Loosely, yes, and it's quite excellent. It was promoted last year as an Annette Bening Oscar vehicle, but it's much better than that.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 13 February 2006 22:09 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

Bring on the scenery chewing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58hmD2sGV7Q

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

Bring on the scenery chewing!

I understand this is their ad campaign.

― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

More should be so honest.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

I mean, after all, they know what they've got:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28snhq40C8o

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

my friend Sean has been going on for years how hilarious Irons is in that movie...he says the behind-the-scenes extras on the DVD are a comedy goldmine

― latebloomer, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

Reminds me of Ray Liotta's work in In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPhR3Ki5kJo

― latebloomer, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

four months pass...

so how IS the Borgias thing?

― My mom is all about capital gains tax butthurtedness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 April 2011 23:22 (fourteen years ago)

five years pass...

he's quite sexy isn't he

― j., Wednesday, 14 December 2016 10:49 (nine years ago)

he's a tory

― Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 10:51 (nine years ago)

Irons was a donor to the Labour Party in the 1980s but said he was now very disillusioned with current politics. He suggested the campaigning for the European Referendum had turned into a game show, primarily between David Cameron and Boris Johnson.

― Darcy Sarto (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 10:57 (nine years ago)

rip jermey

― banfred bann (wins), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 11:01 (nine years ago)

my favourite piece of jeremy irons batshittery

Jeremy Irons, the Oscar-winning actor, has provoked outrage by suggesting that same sex marriage laws could allow fathers to marry their sons to avoid paying inheritance tax.

He also expressed fears that the battle for equal rights could “debase” marital law.

The 64-year-old said he “doesn’t have a strong feeling either way” on gay marriage but suggested it could be manipulated to allow fathers to pass on their estates to their sons without being taxed.

He said: “Could a father not marry his son?"

When reminded about laws which prohibit sexual relationships between family members, he responded: “It's not incest between men", adding: “Incest is there to protect us from inbreeding, but men don't breed."

― Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 11:05 (nine years ago)

in the early '90s he was the patron saint of sexual perversion, so a reaction isn't unexpected

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 12:53 (nine years ago)

Irons has a career in part because he simply looks and sounds like a prototypical leading man British actor in the tradition of Olivier. Cast him correctly and his face and voice do most of the work. He seems to understand this.

― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:32 (nine years ago)

well, Olivier with soul rot.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:43 (nine years ago)

“It's not incest between men", adding: “Incest is there to protect us from inbreeding, but men don't breed."

I should be offended by the homophobia but I just find this whole line of argumentation hilarious

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:57 (nine years ago)

two years pass...

how did I miss this entire saga of Jeremy Irons pic.twitter.com/8oHzjgE28H
— Mollie Goodfellow (@hansmollman) July 14, 2019

― calzino, Sunday, 14 July 2019 22:45 (six years ago)

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