a collective of housing advocates
http://www.mtst.info/taxonomy/term/38 in Sao Paulo have spent the past decade or so, reclaiming an abonded clothing factory
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatianacardeal/99541569/, making a collective, finding medicine, food, shelter, all the basics, in the midst of a place left feral by the state.
they have until today to leave, the owner of the clothing company, who owes the government 5m dollars, and who hasnt even looked at the building in 20 years, is taking it back. (the government in brasil is basically socialist)
i keep thinking about this, and thinking about how it relates to how the danish government has become farther and farther right, and has found the anarchist collective who grew up around, and provided an alternative, in the compund of cristina in denmark, http://www.planetsimpson.com/archives/2005/12/index.aspx (link from a promient candian journalist who wrote a globe and mail feature about it) and this as well http://www.christiania.org/main/lan.php?lan=gb
and then i was wondering about the cyberfutrists favourite example--kwoolon, and i realised that i assumed it was broken down underneath the mainland chinese government, but i didnt know anything about it since 1997, except in the fiction of gibson (irodou, etc) and so i read about it a bit, and it seems to have gentrified and become another bohemian theme park (ie east village in new york; yorkville in toronto; gastown in vancouver,et. al)
and i realised, is that a failure of immiganation, does the state always win, does capitalism bulldoze, what are the implicaitons of this
(not spellchecked, and badly typed, its 3 am
― Anthony Easton, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 10:12 (nineteen years ago)
Interesting points... I reckon that people cannot ignore the prevailing social relations of society, and so ultimately attempts to create communities based on other principles will be overwhelmed.
Or maybe I think that ongoing collectivist experiments provide an embryonic form of future social systems, and no matter how stamped out they are they will continue to reappear.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 10:57 (nineteen years ago)
I am amazed that no one is responding to this thread, even if my own opinions on the matter are but half-formed.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)