Work all day. Party all night. Never sleep. Never care about sleep. It's fun to be an insomniac!

I suffer with insomnia, not because I can’t sleep but because I never actually want to sleep, regardless of how tired I am. I usually fall asleep about halfway through the night then I spend the entire following day shattered, then I stay up half the night again. This miracle pill is made for me.

Has anyone here from the US tried using Modafinil? The article claims people only need 4 hours sleep on it. Can I get it in the UK.

I’ll be banging the door down to volunteer for clinical trials of this stuff.

same here. i hate sleeping!

Neil Stanley, head of sleep research at the Human Psychopharmacology Research Unit at Surrey University, said: "I think that would be the most hideous thing to happen to society."

I want to play Grand Theft Auto until 6 in the morning then go straight to work then straight to the pub then be up all night with the baby then go to work then watch a DVD box set then go to work and maybe have a wee nap every now and then.

That said, I totally LOVE a good 8-hour sleep. If I could get that feeling in 4 hours, cool, but if it means I lose my mind by 50, then no thanks.

"In 10 to 20 years we'll be able to pharmacologically turn sleep off. Mimicking sleep will take longer, but I can see it happening."

Okay, so it all reads a bit Mad Scientist Fuxing With Your BRANE but I can't help liking the idea. Gaining 4 extra hours every day for 30 years = FIVE EXTRA YEARS! Think of all the books you haven't had time to read!

No-one's making anyone work extra. Fuck all the crap about high powered execs on the edge squeezing out that extra bit of productivity. This is about gaming and music and reading and watching telly and all the stuff you haven't got time for because of work and sleeping.

None of these so-called boffins have come up with a pill to simulate work yet so the sleeping has to go.

I'd really love to try Provigil/Modafinil. Is it freely available in the UK? Does anyone know any sneaky website that'll send it over?

This bit made me chuckle:

Modafinil is increasingly used as a 'lifestyle drug' - a lucrative 'off-label' market its makers have not been unduly keen to discourage. Some prescribing physicians have reportedly been surprised at a previously hidden epidemic of narcolepsy among hard-working young professionals attending their surgeries.

"Aye, Doc, I've got terrible narcolepsy, honest!" :-)

A Washington Post article put it to the test

It's worth a read.

I'm kind of freaked that he quotes the Robert Frost poem that I watched being discussed on a Sopranos DVD that I watched at 2am instead of sleeping.

Seriously though, does anyone know how to get these pills in(to) the UK, preferably legally?

Look at the fucking time! I'm going to be tired at work again then I'll *start* drinking with a sore head after work and end up pissed and having a drink induced coma instead of an actual sleep and by Saturday my body will think it's owed about 12 hours kip.

(I keep wanting to change coma to comma, I need to stop reading the Glasgow thread)

I refuse to believe companies wouldn't milk this for all it was worth, but I'm paranoid like that.

Gimme my sleep, gimmegimme. I'd do everything in bed all day if I could get away with it.

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/science/mind/s655227.htm

(of course, I can also see the danger in this, as with the no-sleep pills. But there's danger in freakin' EVERYTHING. People are crazy danger magnets.)

Also I wouldn't be at all surprised if there could be serious long-term effects of sleep loss that would only show up beyond the duration of clinical trials and couldn't be adequately reproduced with animal models; like chromosomal damage or something.

(too lazy to actually read the articles, maybe they addressed those issues)

I've gone years on too little sleep. Whatever the long term effects of prolonged sleep loss are, I'm going to get them regardless of whether I actually feel tired at any given time. Modafinil seems to stop people from feeling tired. I want some.

There are plenty of willing guinea pigs on this thread. Let's take part in the trials and see how our IQs do.
A couple of years from now we'll be dragging old threads out of the archives just to prove that we used to be able to string a sentence together. Then one day we won't even be able to do that. But we'll be awake, dammit!

eating and sleeping are two of my favourite things in life. there is far too much mentalism on this thread.

Which is probably why there's never likely to be a baby at my home.

Oh nos! This is going to fuck with my 2012 preparations!*

Anyone want to club in with Stet's offer to try these? What's the dosage? I've no idea if 100 pills lasts a week or 3 months.

*(assuming Counterstrike and/or webmonging is an Olympic event by then)

I had a good coma all the same, only just up :-)

otm

this is me too. i just seem to pick up after about 6pm, no matter how tired i was at work that day.

I'm going to get some as soon as I get a spare £60 but if any of you guys try it first, then a full account of its effects would be very much appreciated.

Bit confused though, how do you take it? I've read things saying you need to take 1 or 2 tablets every day, and you might not notice any effect for about a month. I was under the impression you just pop this pill when you're feeling sleepy and KERCHING you're back on the ball.

Some more blurb about it:

Provigil (generic name modafinil) is a prescription medicine used to treat people who have narcolepsy, a condition that causes frequent and uncontrollable daytime sleepiness. It helps lower the frequency and length of narcolepsy attacks. It also reduces yawning.

Medical research shows that Provigil is effective in up to 74 percent of the people who take it for narcolepsy. Its effectiveness when compared to other drugs isn’t known. The usual dose of Provigil is 200 mg daily in the morning. It can be taken with or without food. It may take one to two months of treatment to see the drug’s full effects.

Side Effects
Some people have reported side effects after taking Modavigil / Provigil. Although it is considered uncommon for most, the following side effects may be experienced:
# headache
# nausea
# diarrhea
# dry mouth
# poor appetite
# runny nose
# sore throat
# nervousness
# dizziness

And also how to get hold of some in the UK :-)

'Cos Red Bull is the spawn of Satan. And I'd have a coffee anyway.

Seriously though, this stuff sounds completely different from regular stimulants.

yeah. it works!

unlike coffee which does nothing for meeee (except make me feel more tired). coca cola gives the sugar rush but then you feel worse and more dehydrated. water works better than caffeine most times at keeping me awake.

A friend of Mister Monkey's has decided he's going to try polyphasic sleeping. This was the first I had heard of it. It seems like a crazy notion to me.

Did Jon's medical experiment work out?

None of these so-called boffins have come up with a pill to simulate work yet so the sleeping has to go.

I read as more than a bit manic on this thread.

Anyway. I have taken to getting up at 5.30am to start work at 7 o'clock. All I need to do now is get to sleep before 1am or get me some of these miracle pills.

stet, did you ever get any joy with your doctor?

did anyone ever try this stuff out? got a growing interest in having more hours of life in my life

was just considering an insomniac bump

i'm actually upthread saying i'm about to try this but don't think i ever did, wonder why? qu still stands: is this stuff like taking a caffeine pill or not? baffled by the thing about it taking 3-5 weeks to work - so after 3-5 weeks of taking these pills daily you just... stop sleeping?

going to try this stuff out in about a week or so. heard from friends that it's good, helps you focus, but isn't like a strong noticeable 'drug experience'. they were using it during the day to enhance concentration but i'm planning to try it instead of sleeping. will report back.

Scientists say the lifestyle pills promise to deliver sleep that is deeper and more refreshing than usual, and may even lead to people surviving without sleep for days.

This sort of press release is so pumped up with air it could be used as a flotation device.

Well thats my coding assignment done. Guess i'll head in to work.

Not really insomniac just paper walls and noisy neighbour. An hour a night since monday and tonight is my third night of evening classes in a row. Floating above the desk atm tbh. Feels kinda nice.

this stuff in the news. no current ilxor tried this? wondering about the comedowns/after effects and if after a 30 hour stint how much extra sleep you need to catch up, if any

oops, link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/10340244/Universities-warned-of-explosion-in-use-of-smart-drugs.html