Your Greenhouse Gas Output: How bad are you, what are you doing?

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We've been doing a lot of discussions around global warming issues recently. So this is the thread to show our shame at what we aren't doing to reduce our impact on the World.

What I am doing:

Buying partly renewable electricity, which I must upgrade to fully renewable.
Not owning a car any more
Keeping heating and lighting at home and at work to a minimum
Buying local produce especially stuff that has spent time in the cold chain, avoiding anything that loooks like it has been flown to the UK, buying organic where practical (organic production has very little by way of positive or negative effect on the greenhouse impact of farming). This extends to avoinding non-european wines etc.
I have a relatively new and relatively efficient central heating boiler.

What I haven't done but probably should

Double Glaze or Secondary glaze the enormous windows in my flat (ouch that's expensive).
Not leave my home computer on all the time

Not fly so much. I've already flown enough this ear to obliterate any good I might be doing as a human being and it's not likely to change any time soon. I have been offseting my flight with future forrests but there has been some question over the sustainability of this method of sequestration. I also think it's a rather passive method of offseting one's impact. I think I'm going to move away from that and start investing in renewable energy directly. Besides I am part of a group planning a couple of tree planting camps this year, in the next 12 months we should have planted 15,000 trees, although I don't really see this as sequestering my carbon.

I'm not doing nearly enough really.

Ed (dali), Friday, 17 February 2006 07:04 (nineteen years ago)

What is renewable electricity and how does one buy it?

And can we eat it?

robster (robster), Friday, 17 February 2006 07:10 (nineteen years ago)

get off teh internets and don't eat beanz!

Al Galore, Friday, 17 February 2006 07:11 (nineteen years ago)

Switch now to renewable

Ed (dali), Friday, 17 February 2006 07:12 (nineteen years ago)

I don't drive or fly (because I'm terrified of flying). I try not to leave things on standby. I'm obsessive about turning the computer monitor off at work, sometimes I unplug the fax so it's not on overnight. I work near home, so I don't use public transport to get there. That's probably as much as I can do.

I used a hairdryer this morning :(

It's up to government to do more I think.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 17 February 2006 10:20 (nineteen years ago)

How bad are you, what are you doing?

a) I don't care b) whatever the fuck I like.

As soon as the gravy train environmentalists stop flying all round the fucking world on polluting aircraft to talk about greenhouse gas emissions I'll stop leaving my telly on standby.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 17 February 2006 10:37 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to stop ordering/buying stuff from other countries. ESPECIALLY DENMARK.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 17 February 2006 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

i already

switch lights and appliances and stuff off rather than leaving on standby, except things like fridges and alarm clocks

if i'm cold indoors (which is rare anyway) i'll put on an extra layer of clothes before thinking about putting the heating on (this is offset by the russian though, who must have the circulation of a slug for she is *always* freezing and must have the heating turned up to 11)

our house is rented but it's double glazed. it gets warm fast and stays warm

we get a bag of organic fruit and veg every week, nearly all grown in the uk, some of it even grown in hackney, which we have to pick up rather than having them deliver it (thus saving er about another 1.5 food miles a week)

bike rather than car

recycle as much as poss, including taking the plastic to brixton bc hackney doesn't do plastic but lambeth does

compost

grow stuff in the back garden = 0 food miles

low-energy lightbulbs where poss

got a green electricity supplier

get milk delivered in glass bottles which are reused loads of times rather than buy it in plastic bottles that undergo plenty industrial stuff to be reused or tetra paks which can't be recycled. unfortunately this seems to mean we can't have organic milk - if anyone knows how we can get organic milk in glass bottles in london pls let me know

not fly within the uk or to france, get the train instead

try to buy stuff with as little packaging as poss, or paper/cardboard rather than plastic/polystyrene

take bags to the shops with me so as not to have to get new plastic ones (though the eagerness with which they're forced into your hands by checkouteers, in supermarkets and elsewhere, makes this almost contentious at times)


i should

not fly within europe at all. it's not like i fly often, but every flight makes a difference i guess. if i could afford it (time and money wise) i would do as much travel as poss over land or sea. it's more fun anyway

quit buying packet noodles in plastic packets with like three more little plastic sachets of stuff in them but i can't quite wean myself off argh

if i'm in in the evening i have too many things on at the same time - computer, stereo, a few different lights

um

i'm sure there are 89765976 more things i should be doing

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 17 February 2006 10:56 (nineteen years ago)

I forgot to mention recycling.

Ed (dali), Friday, 17 February 2006 11:14 (nineteen years ago)

I quail in the face of emsk and Ed. Which, if you do enough of it, is an enviromentally sound alternative to ever leaving my room and using energy (apart from, er, the computer on all day).

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 17 February 2006 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

I've signed up for ConEd's "GREEN Power" program, I turn off lights whenever possible, emphatically refuse plastic bags, and generally stay the fuck away from threads like this because they make me want to kill myself.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 17 February 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

I quail in the face of emsk and Ed

it's not like any of this stuff is hard, or takes up any time, apart from the garden bits!

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 17 February 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

God, I'm so rubbish.

The only things I really do are not own a car, and turn lights out compulsively, put my heater on a timer/keep it down to 20 degrees. I don't fly at all. (Though this causes immense problems in my family.)

I should pay more attention to where my vegetables come from, but then I get to Sainsburys (we don't have a market in Streatham) and there's all Bok Choi and other nummy veggies I just can't seem to live without and I get them without checking where they come from. Bah.

Boris and the Johnsons (kate), Friday, 17 February 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

we get a bag of organic fruit and veg every week, nearly all grown in the uk, some of it even grown in hackney, which we have to pick up rather than having them deliver it (thus saving er about another 1.5 food miles a week)

it annoys me that they give us it in a plastic bag though. fortunately you can recycle plastic bags at the local Somerfield.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 17 February 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

they give us it in reused plastic bags. occasionally there's a little note in it "we are running out of plastic bags! please bring us some next week if you have some!" better to reuse than recycle, surely?

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 17 February 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

Absolutely.

I long for the day when all bottles are returnable like they are in switzerland and sweden.

Ed (dali), Friday, 17 February 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

and used to be here! i remember the pop lorry coming round, giving you 10p back for each bottle. why did they stop doing that?

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 17 February 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

But only certain kinds of plastic are recycles in Lambeth. Mine says I can only recycle "drinks containers" but then I get all flummoxed thinking "is soup a drink?" and tend to put more stuff in and they can pick it out if they don't want it.

Boris and the Johnsons (kate), Friday, 17 February 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

i might just take a big potato sack and tip the veg into that then leave them the bag.

the lack of plastic recycling facilities is frustrating. we've started making sculptures out of Minute Maid bottles to compensate.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 17 February 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

I buy Irn Bru in returnable glass bottles!

Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 17 February 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

there's a place off holloway road you can drop your plastic off to be recycled, or lambeth'll do it, possibly other councils but i dunno. tower hamlets did, i think. i think how it's worked out is any plastic drinks bottles and any other plastic that has a 1 or a 2 in the little triangle can be recycled in this country. friend p who lives up the road reckons hackney do plastic bc they take it away when he and m and their neighbours leave it out, but i suspect they are so bloody grateful for anyone leaving anything out at all they'll just take it all and chuck away what they can't do anything with.

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 17 February 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

What I do and have done:

Drive a SULEV (Prius) for weekend errands which are combined into one long loop trip and long trips. Walk to work. Live in a well-insulated older house with double-glazed windows. Have a new efficient gas furnace. Use a time-cycle thermostat, setting the heat at 68 when we are there and 64 when we are not and when we are asleep. Switched all incandescent light bulbs to compact fluorescent and LED. Recycle everything our community allows. Buy only local produce directly from the farmers. Buy organic free-range eggs and chickens directly from the farmer. Buy locally raised grass-fed beef, lamb, and pork. Keep the refrigerator and freezer close to full. Use worm bins for composting - one solely for organic vegetable matter and newspaper, one for cat poop. Have low-water landscaping. Use low-enviromental impact cleaning products. Our electricity in this part of the country is hydropower.

What I should do:

Hang clothes to dry rather than use the dryer. Utilize gray water for the part of the landscaping that needs water. Put in a garden. Eat out less often. Move to a community that recycles more than just newspapers, magazines, and pop bottles, with usable public transportation. Get a bike and use it. Think more about the packaging of the stuff I buy and go for things with less. Tons more stuff, I'm sure.

Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 17 February 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and I don't use my fridge anymore.

It is quite frankly bizarre that America uses potable water for its never-ending landscaping needs...WTF, people?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 17 February 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

It is crazy. Are graywater systems in common use anywhere but AZ and NV golfcourses? If we ever buy a house, I'd put one in.

How do you not use a fridge? I can't picture not having one.

Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 17 February 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)


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