Belle & Sebastian (the band, not the cartoon): classic or dud?

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I went through a brief phase of thinking dud, but as their latest album is the best thing they've done since Sinister I'm upgrading them to classic.

I also have Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie stuck in my head, which is the main reason for starting this thread.

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Thursday, 23 February 2006 09:39 (twenty years ago)

i can't believe we've never had this before!

what a great idea.

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Thursday, 23 February 2006 09:41 (twenty years ago)

You do realise that there's a large contingent of ILX users that originally met on the B&S fans' mailing list, right?

(and an equally large contingent that hate them, I think)

(classic. And I too now have Le Pastie stuck in my head)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 23 February 2006 09:42 (twenty years ago)

I have Stuart Murdoch's sleazy face in mine.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 23 February 2006 09:44 (twenty years ago)

I do, I do and I agree.

But I thought it would be could to have a little cat/pigeon interaction. And besides, I want someone to try and defend Legal Man.

xpost

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Thursday, 23 February 2006 09:45 (twenty years ago)

Are you saying he looks sleazy, or are you picturing him pulling a particular "sleaze face"?

(xpost)

Classic: DJs who play the theme from Eurotrash and Legal Man back-to-back.

(I heard it happen in a club in Edinburgh once)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 23 February 2006 09:46 (twenty years ago)

I think he looks/is sleazy.

I don't like it when DJs play songs like that back-to-back. It's so "ooh look at me I've noticed that Taxman and Start have the same bassline aren't I clever".

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 23 February 2006 09:57 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, I'm in a bad mood this morning and it's all Sleazy Stuart's fault.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 23 February 2006 09:57 (twenty years ago)

One thing I noticed about the current album - well, the DVD that comes with it: it's supposed to look like a 70s music TV show, but everyone in the audience looks like modern-day art school hipsters trying to dress up in a 70s style. This is, of course, what they *are*, but they failed miserably at actually looking like a 70s audience.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 23 February 2006 09:59 (twenty years ago)

(I'm sure I remember someone posting on Sinister asking people to go to the BBC Scotland studios dressed in 70s outfits, for that recording session)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 23 February 2006 10:00 (twenty years ago)

wouldn't it be a bit disturbing if they did actually look like people from the '70s?

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Thursday, 23 February 2006 10:01 (twenty years ago)

i'd never heard them until this year! i think they're pretty ok.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 23 February 2006 10:01 (twenty years ago)

anyway DUD, though some songs on the first three lps are nice.

fuck '70s TV, i wasn't even born then.

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Thursday, 23 February 2006 10:02 (twenty years ago)

Nah, not really. After all, that was the effect they were trying to create.

(same as that video the Arctic Monkeys did a bit ago, only theirs was more convincing)

(xxpost)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 23 February 2006 10:03 (twenty years ago)

worst effect ever

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Thursday, 23 February 2006 10:06 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I agree that it's a bit rubbish - but doing it properly is better than half doing it.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 23 February 2006 10:07 (twenty years ago)

who would have guessed the standard-bearers of nineties twee would morph into supertramp?

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 23 February 2006 10:22 (twenty years ago)

aw, i've had "sinister" the song stuck in my head all day! a wildly classic band in spite of themselves, and the cause of much joy and anguish in my personal life to boot. god love 'em, they'll probably be played at my wedding and my funeral. and yes, the new albnum is an absolute corker...

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 23 February 2006 11:05 (twenty years ago)

I want someone to try and defend Legal Man.

??? Legal Man is great! It's one of my favourite singles ever!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 23 February 2006 11:08 (twenty years ago)

(the difference being that supertramp's sixth album was good)

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 23 February 2006 11:09 (twenty years ago)

Fortunate Hazel is OTM! I would throw Wizzard and Cockney Rebel in there, too.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 23 February 2006 11:10 (twenty years ago)

I definitely want Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying played at my funeral.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 23 February 2006 11:11 (twenty years ago)

i saw a girl for a while last summer, who only had 2 cds that i could see. she played dear catastrophe waitress whenever i stayed over, and it reminds me of hazy south london summer days

― terry lennox. (gareth), Thursday, 23 February 2006 11:17 (twenty years ago)

what was the other CD?

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 23 February 2006 11:21 (twenty years ago)

Atari Teenage Riot — Live In Brixton

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Thursday, 23 February 2006 11:41 (twenty years ago)

i think it was flaming lips.

she had some tapes i think

― terry lennox. (gareth), Thursday, 23 February 2006 11:45 (twenty years ago)

last night i kind of understood belle & sebastien. i wanted to play one of their song, judy and the dream of horses, i think. but i dont have any belle & sebastian, so i played alice coltrane

for that moment though, i knew what it was like, to be in a belle & sebastian mood, i was nostalgic for a recent past, tilting at an increasingly unlikely future, and fearful of a shifting present

― terry lennox. (gareth), Friday, 24 February 2006 11:07 (twenty years ago)

perhaps it was an existentialism of a suburban semi order

― terry lennox. (gareth), Friday, 24 February 2006 11:08 (twenty years ago)

... but you're alright now one hopes?

― Rotatey Diskers With Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 24 February 2006 11:09 (twenty years ago)

i regret, sometimes, that i wasn't one of 'those' people. i think in a way, i was, and still am, but it wasn't quite like i thought it would be.

i missed the point, somewhere along the line, never joined the club

― terry lennox. (gareth), Friday, 24 February 2006 11:14 (twenty years ago)

yes, i think so. i've resumed my normal place, on a hilltop. it was a brief glimpse

― terry lennox. (gareth), Friday, 24 February 2006 11:16 (twenty years ago)

ihttp://www.culturaspettacolovenezia.it/immagini/friedrich-wanderer.jpg

― Rotatey Diskers With Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 24 February 2006 11:17 (twenty years ago)

b&s aren't that big a phenom, out there. literally no-one in my sixth form (1500 people) was into them iirc (ok, exzcept dog latin), back when the broke (96-8). it's only really here on ilx that i've found committed fans. the g/f had 'boy with the arab strap' when i met ehr i guess.

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Friday, 24 February 2006 11:28 (twenty years ago)

They are very popular, as indie music goes

― Rotatey Diskers With Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 24 February 2006 11:29 (twenty years ago)

I mean, it's not like they're not the Go-Betweens or something

― Rotatey Diskers With Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 24 February 2006 11:30 (twenty years ago)

you went to school w/ dog latin?

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 24 February 2006 11:31 (twenty years ago)

you kept that quiet

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 24 February 2006 11:31 (twenty years ago)

haha.

i never him. think he was in the year below.

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Friday, 24 February 2006 11:34 (twenty years ago)

so is it you:dog latin::oops:jaymc or you:dog latin::jaymc:oops?

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 24 February 2006 11:36 (twenty years ago)

ilx-as-lunchroom: who sits together?

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 24 February 2006 11:37 (twenty years ago)

come on, are you the oops or the jaymc?

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 24 February 2006 11:41 (twenty years ago)

i don't understand. gimme sec.

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Friday, 24 February 2006 11:46 (twenty years ago)

that's jaymc-esque recall, either way.

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Friday, 24 February 2006 11:47 (twenty years ago)

at least I don't have an oops, dude

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 24 February 2006 12:14 (twenty years ago)

"If after half an hour you haven't spotted the oops, you're the oops"

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 24 February 2006 13:01 (twenty years ago)

tonight i played at a goth art show and i did a misfits song then im like "heres another misfits song.. any by that i mean the misfits of twee acoustic swedish rock!" then i went into fox in the snow (my version) and no one fuckin laughed i though i was fucmin funny i dunno. are they swedish?

― chaki (chaki), Friday, 24 February 2006 13:03 (twenty years ago)

not so much.

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Friday, 24 February 2006 13:06 (twenty years ago)

Forgive me, guys:
http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/030706/belle-and-sebastian.gif

― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 15:50 (twenty years ago)

suckASStian, shorely?

― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 05:46 (twenty years ago)

NPR posted a live gig of their's with the New Pornographers from last night.

― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 05:47 (twenty years ago)

I was going to post that comic to another thread!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 06:22 (twenty years ago)

today's:

http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/030806/internet-fantasy.gif

― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 07:04 (twenty years ago)

hahaha

― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 09:15 (twenty years ago)

You do realise that there's a large contingent of ILX users that originally met on the B&S fans' mailing list, right?
(and an equally large contingent that hate them, I think)
(classic. And I too now have Le Pastie stuck in my head)

-- Forest Pines (il...), February 23rd, 2006.

HATE?? REALLY? :(

― POOP BITCH (Mandee), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:16 (twenty years ago)

OH WELL

yeah i want to know the answer to RJG's question, too. WHICH ONE WAS OOPS, AND WHICH WAS JAYMC??

my sister, gunther heartymeal, is my oops

― POOP BITCH (Mandee), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:16 (twenty years ago)

HI DERE I HATE BELLE & FUCKFACETIAN

― Dan (With Guns) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:20 (twenty years ago)

really?

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:22 (twenty years ago)

im not that into 'em anymore. but i certainly don't hate them.

― POOP BITCH (Mandee), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:23 (twenty years ago)

I DOWNLOADED THAT CRAZY SHIT BUT FORGOT TO LISTEN TO IT.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:36 (twenty years ago)

They'll always be classic to me. I always buy their new records, but I haven't given them a real, serious listen since Beyond the Sunrise made my ears bleed.
I suppose I'm not the only one who got through the darkest period of my life with B&S as a near-constant companion (not literally, since I was in Texas and they were in Glasgow or something). Met some lovely people--and Phil-two--through that mailing list/IRC channel that doesn't get so much traffic nowadays.

― Pork Cheops (willpie), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:39 (twenty years ago)

I don't hate them nearly as much as I used to when they were inescapable.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:47 (twenty years ago)

I like their new LP.

The Nipper seems more doubtful.

I was thinking last night, of whether it would be interesting to see the TV programme, from which they took the name. I think I never have!

― the bellefox, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:01 (twenty years ago)

http://www.moviemail-online.co.uk/sleeve/larger/12986.JPG

http://www.moviemail-online.co.uk/films/11899;provider=kel1

― Mooro (Mooro), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:00 (twenty years ago)

their song titles are good for pun-making

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:45 (twenty years ago)

therefore classic

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:45 (twenty years ago)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/vinyl-LP-BELLE-SEBASTIAN-tigermilk-ELECTRIC-HONEY_W0QQitemZ4847375447QQcategoryZ2260QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

blargh.

― jeffrey (johnson), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

he really shouldn't keep his ultra-rare original vinyl copy of tigermilk on A FUCKING RADIATOR...

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

keywords "franz ferdinand"?

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

That's a very specialized radiator.

― Dan (Talk About A "Hot Seat") Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

tits.jpg

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

£122 now and it finishes at 4.30pm.
I wonder how much it will sell for?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:03 (nineteen years ago)

i like them a lot in small doses

― latebloomer is a belly with a guy pierce in it (latebloomer), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:41 (nineteen years ago)

i don't like them at all.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:56 (nineteen years ago)

Awful horrible

― chap who would dare to be a stone cold thug (chap), Sunday, 19 March 2006 03:03 (nineteen years ago)

Awful horrible fucking hate them.

― chap who would dare to be a stone cold thug (chap), Sunday, 19 March 2006 03:04 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't mean to post twice there. Don't hate them QUITE that much.

― chap who would dare to be a stone cold thug (chap), Sunday, 19 March 2006 03:12 (nineteen years ago)

i wish they were dead.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 19 March 2006 03:14 (nineteen years ago)

What the video that looks like REM? somethng about a frog. yeah that one. Shite innit.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Sunday, 19 March 2006 03:48 (nineteen years ago)

Guess the album doesn't sell for £750 anymore then..

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 19 March 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

...my favorite band of all-time...

― Tape Store (Tape Store), Sunday, 19 March 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

http://wizardishungry.com/lol/pic_left_border4.jpg
You are all so fucking gay!

http://wizardishungry.com/lol/shofixti-sitting.gif

― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Sunday, 19 March 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Lazy Line Painter Jane is one of my favourite songs EVER. I have it on single. We downloaded it the other day and I was astounded at how great it was. The rest I didn't much care for. Their last single is also fantastic.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Sunday, 19 March 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

I've never heard any B&S songs in my life. Somehow.

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 20 March 2006 02:24 (nineteen years ago)

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