Be careful when enjoying a goat, you might have to marry it

A GIRL was forced to marry a dog because her superstitious family thought her teeth had brought them bad luck.

Seven-year-old Shivam Munda was told to wed the stray after her upper teeth arrived before her lower teeth.

Her father Kundan, a coal miner, said it was a bad omen and had brought an "evil eye" on her and her family.

He added that by marrying the dog, she would remove the eye's spell and be free to marry a man later.

The Santhal tribal marriage ceremony was part of three days of traditional festivities in Dhanbad, a town in Bihar, eastern India.

"Apparently according to reports and stuff - one it almost sounded like he thought the sheep was his mother - and then another report sounded like it was his grandmother's sheep and it was sick and he was I don't know - it doesn't make any sense."

oh, poor goat. it must have been expressing its displeasure.

"If one commits an act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed as quickly as possible and burned, and the price of it paid to its owner by him who sodomized it."

"It is forbidden to consume the excrement of animals or their nasal secretions. But if such are mixed in minute proportions into other foods their consumption is not forbidden."

"If a man (God protect him from it!) fornicates with an animal and ejaculates, ablution is necessary."

second: the rules of islam regarding bestiality you cite don't exist. either you're trying to be "funny" (and being a racist pig in the process) or you're a misinformed racist pig.

other than the fact that Alifi is an Islamic name?

Sterling, I'm quoting Khomeini. Are you saying he's an unrepresenative example of Islam who is a despised figure among moderate American muslims? If so, I've got the links to show that, on the contrary, he's revered by American muslims, at least of the shia persuasion.

Anyway, back to Khomeini:

-A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual act such as forplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed.

-A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, however selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.

-If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrement become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed and as quickly as possible and burned.

let's talk about american bestiality while we're at it too then -- 8% of american males said they'd achived orgasm with an animal according to kinsey. also, no federal law prohibiting bestiality although there is in 30/50 states (though for many it's a misdemeanor). i guess that means that according the the american federal government "a man can have sex with animals such as sheep, and so on, and this isn't a bad thing" and according to various state governments "a man can have sex with animals such as sheep, and so on, as long as they pay some money to the government."

or we could just talk about how brown-skinned people are raghead camelfuckers.

Quite. Really, I was most amused by the goat-owner's description of the incident.

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What's made up? All of those disgusting statements were direct quotes from Khomeini. (If they weren't, how about some counter-evidence?) And Khomeini was recenlty lauded by muslims in Dearborn, Michigan:

"Last Friday, Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan, held an anti-American, anti-Israel demonstration. Protestors carried a large model of Jerusalem’s Al-Aqsa Mosque and waved signs bearing slogans such as “US Hands Off Muslim Land.” But the most arresting image was of a Muslim woman carrying a large sign featuring the face of the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.

I wonder if any of the onlookers knew that Khomeini’s triumph in Iran in 1979 embodied the idea that Islamic law was superior to all other ways to order societies, and must be pressed forward by force. As Khomeini himself put it: “Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled or incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world....But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world.”

The goal of this conquest would be to establish the hegemony of Islamic law. As Khomeini put it: “What is the good of us [i.e., the mullahs] asking for the hand of a thief to be severed or an adulteress to be stoned to death when all we can do is recommend such punishments, having no power to implement them?”

“Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers]? Islam says: Kill them, put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]…. Islam says: Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for the Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other [Qur’anic] psalms and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all this mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.”

Was the woman who carried Khomeini’s image in the Dearborn demonstration concerned about the human rights of women? Did she know that the Ayatollah himself married a ten-year-old girl when he was twenty-eight? Did she know that Khomeini called marriage to a girl before her first menstrual period “a divine blessing,” and advised the faithful: “Do your best to ensure that your daughters do not see their first blood in your house”?

It is unlikely that the protestor knew that in 1985, Sa’id Raja’i-Khorassani, the Permanent Delegate to the United Nations from the Islamic Republic of Iran, declared, according to Amir Taheri, that “the very concept of human rights was ‘a Judeo-Christian invention’ and inadmissible in Islam. . . . According to Ayatollah Khomeini, one of the Shah’s ‘most despicable sins’ was the fact that Iran was one of the original group of nations that drafted and approved the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.”

I wonder if anyone at the Dearborn protest realized that the appearance of these signs in Dearborn, Michigan, exalting this man as a hero, indicated that Khomeini’s vision for society is alive in America today — and that it is dangerously naive to assume that all Muslims immediately and unquestioningly accept American pluralism and the idea of a state not governed by religious law. The Netherlands is just finding out, thanks to the cold-blooded murder and attempted decapitation of the “blasphemer” Theo van Gogh by a Muslim who appears to have been part of a larger jihadist cell, that not all the Muslims in Holland are the committed pluralists and secularists that they have been assumed to be by credulous European authorities.

With Khomeini a hero in Dearborn, Americans may be finding that out for themselves before long. Just where American Muslims stand on Khomeini’s doctrines — and how many stand with Khomeini — are still forbidden questions for the major media. But if the old man could have spoken from his sign in Dearborn, he might have said, “Ignore me at your own risk.”

i) "Nearly two fifths (37 per cent) believe that the Jewish community in Britain is a legitimate target 'as part of the ongoing struggle for justice in the Middle East'."

ii) http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/archives/001603.html

ie not two-fifths of british muslims but in fact 200 british muslims

"The nearly 1.6 million Muslims in Britain (more than three times the number of Jews) are a diverse group. Attitudes vary between those of Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Ugandan and Kenyan Asian origins, as well as recent refugees, often not used to being politically involved. It is hard to capture the nuances of such differences.

"But a variety of polls exists about Muslim views. Populus was commissioned by a coalition of Jewish community groups to undertake a poll of 500 British Muslims between December 9 and 19 (of whom 30 per cent were in London and 55 per cent were aged between 18 and 34). The results have now been made available to The Times.

"With caveats about sample size, the trends are clear. There is no single, agreed voice for Muslim opinion..."

"YouGov interviewed 526 Muslim adults across Great Britain online between July 15 and 22. The data were weighted to reflect the composition of Britain's Muslim population by gender, age and country of birth.

YouGov abides by the rules of the British Polling Council.

You Gov's findings were confirmed and amplified in an ICM/Guardian poll published on 26 July which confirmed that 83,000 British Muslims (5%), 117,000 under the age of 35 (7%), "think that further attacks by British suicide bombers would be 'justified'".

The editorial in The Guardian on 27 July stated: "That, when you pause to think about it, is both a chilling finding and the biggest issue of all. It tells us that a significant minority believe that you, your relatives, your friends and workmates would be legitimate targets for an indiscriminate suicide bomber. If you were unfortuntate enough to die in such a bombing, in other words, tens of thousands of your fellow citizens would justify your death to themselves.""

the extrapolations upwards from such small samples are extremely dubious in a population as heterogenous as the one under examination

could a poll of 500 british non-muslims generate the "kinds of results we see again and again"? -- it would depend how the 500 was picked, and what the machinery was to check how representative the selection was (also on what the questions were, ie what counted as the "kinds of results we see")

with eg election polling there's an election to check the accuracy of sampling against -- with opinion polls of this kind there's nothing concrete to check the social implication or political meaning of such polled declarations against -- ie whether it's sour alienation and shouting at the telly at most, or the lip of bloody revolt

"The figure illustrates how widespread fears are of an anti-Muslim backlash following the July 7 bombings which were carried out by British born suicide bombers.

"The poll also shows that tens of thousands of Muslims have suffered from increased Islamophobia, with one in five saying they or a family member have faced abuse or hostility since the attacks.

"Police have recorded more than 1,200 suspected Islamophobic incidents across the country ranging from verbal abuse to one murder in the past three weeks. The poll suggests the headline figure is a large underestimate."

(this is the same ICM/Guardian poll, published on 26 July last year)

Ah yes, the regular firebombing of synagogues in France and the attacks by muslims on Jewish school-children in France are obviously just a fantastical invention of right-wing Jew-loving Christians.

"A MINIBUS used to transport children to a Jewish school in the eastern French city of Strasbourg was set alight Sunday night, police said today. A few hours earlier assailants hurled stones at the door of a synagogue in the same city.

"Several factors make me think these are anti-Semitic acts," said Pierre Levy, regional delegate of the Representative Council of Jewish Institutions in France (CRIF).

"What is worrying is that the incidents tend to happen after demonstrations," he said.

"On Saturday around 20,000 Muslims demonstrated around France against a proposed ban on the Islamic headscarf in schools. The marches were organised by the Strasbourg-based Party of French Muslims, whose opponents accuse it of being anti-Semitic.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2806627.stm

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:k2xrkmStu34J:www.wiesenthal.com/atf/cf/%257BDFD2AAC1-2ADE-428A-9263-35234229D8D8%257D/franceattacks.pdf+anti-semitic+france+school-bus&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=8

http://www.adl.org/Anti_semitism/as_france.asp

on the phony muslim 'backlash'

Also 'marriage' is in quotes because calling this kind of union marriage is a contradiction in terms according to how marriage has always been (and is mostly still) understood, both culturally and legally. I'm in favour of gay 'marriage', but don't see why anyone should object to people continuing to use the concept of marriage as it has always been used. That seems pretty intolerant to me - like it's activism stepping beyond a civil rights issue of trying to win people the legal status and protections they equally deserve, into an area of wishing to impose conceptual distinctions upon others in accordance with their own particular ideological leanings.

-- slb (sl...), May 19th, 2004.

If the U.S. election had been between Mussolini and Gandhi, who would the American people have chosen?

Wasn't Gandhi an admirer of Mussolini?

-- slb (sl...), November 4th, 2004.

Katrina: 'the View from the Right'

...is that, given half a chance, blacks will always behave like savages.

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/004052.html

-- slb (slb...), September 2nd, 2005.

Katrina: 'the View from the Right'

From further reading of this site: Lawrence Auster sees himself as a representative of the Old Right, before the movemement got hijacked by the 'liberal' neocons (two of whom he especially despises for dismissing him in email exchanges as a bigot: Jonah Goldberg and John Podhoretz). I guess the neocon take-over of the conservative movement has its good points.

-- slb (slb...), September 2nd, 2005.

Stanley "Tookie" Willliams

the piece of shit should've been executed 20 years ago.

-- slb (sl...), December 13th, 2005.

Europe is Toast say some (mod: LONG article by Mark Steyn)

"--"Go forth and multiply," because if you don't you won't be able to afford all those secondary-impulse issues, like cradle-to-grave welfare."

I don't quite follow this argument that welfare is unsustainable unless a higher birthrate creates more people to pay into it. Presumbably these new people will be welfare recipients as well as contributors. Surely, if welfare is structurally unsustainable, then it will remain so no matter the population level?

-- slb (sl...), January 7th, 2006.

I don't think we have any discussion about the Danish Muhammad cartoons....

Aimless, I don't think, for example, that Hindus or Buddhists or African animists should be prevented from immigrating to the West because their bedrock teachings don't mandate that they overthrow the existing order and institute a Hindu, Buddhist or animist government, antithetical to liberal democracy.

As far as I need to cite empirical evidence to back up the blatant doctrinal difference which exists between the teachings of Islam and all other religions, obviously I'm on shaky ground, given that the Hindu instigated mass-murder in Madrid and the Buddhist terrorist attacks on London prove that all religions are equally culpable.

-- slb (sl...), February 18th, 2006.

Hamas wins a clear majority in the Palestinian elections...

from Hamas' charter:

(Hamas) aspires to the realisation of Allah's promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said: "The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree would refuse do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."

-- slb (sl...), January 26th, 2006.

Is using the word "gay" to mean "lame" sort of homophobic?

Isn't gay just used in this way to describe unmanly feeble behaviour in other men, like throwing a ball like a girl? And isn't this usage quite accurate? Aren't gays by definition more effeminate? If that's a homophobic thing to say then I guess tv shows like Will & Grace, which makes a big deal about the lead character's lack of manliness and feebleness at sporting activities, must be homophobic.

-- slb (sl...), January 26th, 2006.

Is using the word "gay" to mean "lame" sort of homophobic?

"slb is trolling, boooring."

What did I say that's so unreasonable? I wasn't making any value judgements about whether effeminacy is a bad thing! I don't think it is!

-- slb (sl...), January 26th, 2006.

Is using the word "gay" to mean "lame" sort of homophobic?

All I was saying was that 'gay' means 'lame' when it refers to precisely those things that gay culture itself seems to admit gays are lame at. My understanding of 'gay culture' is admittedly very superficial - it's based, like I said, and like that of most other heterosexuals I would imagine, on shows like Will & Grace or Les Cages aux Folles. But if you think that I'm completely off-track about this, blame these shows as well, not just me.

-- slb (sl...), January 26th, 2006.
Is using the word "gay" to mean "lame" sort of homophobic?

But are gays wimpy or not?

-- slb (sl...), January 26th, 2006.

I don't think we have any discussion about the Danish Muhammad cartoons....

I might be being touchy, but if gypsy's comment was meant to suggest that my 'agenda' is anti-immigration, then he couldn't be mroe wrong. I'm extemely pro-immigration. I love the fact that Britain is now a multicultural society. I love the fact that both at work and socially I get to mix with Koreans, Phillipinos, Eastern Europeans, Nigerians, etc. etc. And I honestly think that it's a wonderful thing that National-front style anti-immigrant 'paki-bashing' racism which existed in the 70s has largely fallen by the wayside.

But does any of that mean that I should welcome mass immigration from members of a religion which fundamentally believes that all other cultures and belief-systems should be subjugated under its rule? ("Islam will dominate")

Not at all - I oppose muslim immigration precisely because I favour multiculturalism.

-- slb (sl...), February 18th, 2006.

I need drugs. Seriously. Paxil.

When I used to take meds, I bought a lot off this site, without any problem:

http://www.e-med.co.uk/

They'll prescribe you almost any variety of benzodiazepines, including ativan, if that'll help.

They seem to be international, but I'm not sure how that would work, whether you'd have to wait for air-mail, etc.

But reading your post really gave me a flash-back of how desperate I used to get myself, and glad that I don't take anything anymore (apart from beer). You'd be a lot better off if you just stuck it out. (but I also remember that when people said things like that to me at the time, I was just 'yeh, sure, just tell me how to get the fucking drugs').

-- slb (sl...), February 7th, 2006.

Crystal Meth finally hits the suburbs -- Wal-Mart to restrict sales of cold medicine

http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/Phenethylamine

see the table in the bottom half of this page, for pseudoephedrine's place in the scheme of the amphetamine/ecstasy family of drugs.

-- slb2 (slb...), April 27th, 2005.