do more men seek commitment than women do in the 21st century?

:(

You a Mormon all of a sudden?

I mean, if the woman is going to sleep with me...she better make my damn breakfast before I kick her out and never answer her calls again.

I think it's one of those things that "nice" new men say when they want to give vent to their underlying misogynist feelings and set themselves up as modern day martyrs for not getting laid.

That's being a bit harsh. There's a grain of truth in it, if only because, in my peer group at least, men were more likely to be the ones making grand declarations of love, having serious long-term unrequited crushes, generally having an immature, solipistic approach to love, which we saw as "being committed".

He's happily married now and recently, wisely, said that the reason we never got lucky back then was that we scared off women who just wanted to walk before they ran.

What? Since when?

My most commitment-friendly male friends are single and have been for quite a while - and I fear it may be as your friend says Alba: women get scared by that (though they might be pro commitment in theory).

and you work where and what do i have to do to get a job there?

Yeah, I was gonna say. Upthread, I was really talking about committing to having a relationship at all (after, say, some drunken snog or sex or just declaration of intent). But then there's all those other commitment steps down the line.

I did empathise horribly with Larry David in that CYE episode where his wife writes renewed marriage vows and he feels funny about committing to her in the afterlife too.

"No man will commit to me!"
"I'll commit to you"
"NOT YOU!!!"

-- not-goodwin (godwin...), March 1st, 2006.

you have to be gelded first.

Asylum

Hehe, more like 'I want you to commit to me but I don't want you to TELL me that you're going to commit to me'.