Generation Of Grime (Kidulthood)

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― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

not unlike the 'focus group' episode of 'the thick of it'.

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know why they've called it 'kidulthood' either -- i thought 'kidults' meant people like the characters in 'spaced', adults who act like kids.

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Thursday, 2 March 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

saw thing about this on Newsnight last night.

Dr Who's 'Mickey' is the big bad kidult.

But it looks like a film in which none of the main characters appear likeable/deserving of sympathy, unlike their victims.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 2 March 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

if Mickey is in it, then he's also the same Noel Clarke who directed (or "created" it as it says in the articele) it

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 2 March 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

good to see he's busying himself in order to try and forget Rose.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 2 March 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

I hope lots of Mickey fans* go see this.

If nothing else, it may finally destroy the Richard Curtis Notting Hill stereotype. See how it compares with Bullet Boy I guess.

*This concept is tricky for me to square however.

― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 2 March 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

There was a short film on C4 about five years ago called 'The Real Notting Hill' which attempted to dispel the Curtisian myth. Unfortunately I can't find any info about it online.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 2 March 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

I did see it though. Featured a bunch of youths hanging around, beating someone up for their phone, smoking the evil skunkweed and shagging around. Mmmm revelatory.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 2 March 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

haha

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Thursday, 2 March 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

why does everyone turn into born-again neo-realists when richard curtis comes up?

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Thursday, 2 March 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

ooh sophie wrote that article! hurrah.

i would quite like to see this film, but i do have concentration issues when it comes to films in general.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 March 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

apropos of nothing, have you ever heard of John Wayne Bobbit?

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 2 March 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

"At 15, you're thinking about sex, but girls are not giving out sex like pancakes - if you squeezed a girl's tits you're the kingpin!"

This is my favourite quote of the last, oh, I dunno, two days or something.

― JimD (JimD), Thursday, 2 March 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Because Richard Curtis sucks a bag of dicks - whichw ould be okay if he was still bring teh funny, but he baint be doing that no more.

Put it like this, I'm not going to diss a British film UNTIL I've seen it.

― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 2 March 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

cut out the middle-man!

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Thursday, 2 March 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

it's standard, man.

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Monday, 6 March 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

Classicnang or dudhench?

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 6 March 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

This isn't the Richard Curtis W11, this is real.

It's just the flipside of the same 'real' coin tho no?

The British film industry doesn't make films about this generation

What about a film about 'this generation' where the characters aren't cunts?

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 6 March 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

why does everyone turn into born-again neo-realists when richard curtis comes up?
-- The Man Without Shadow

Because I have enough background knowledge of the times and areas his films are set in to see the MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF UNTRUE FAIRY DUST. Now, I *know* there will be distortion in all films, but I'm more likely to spot this in Love Actually than in ... oh ... I don't know, Brokeback Mountain. Plus, it's flavoured with a certain amount of bitter envy: "But she works for a bloody charity and lives in London, there is no way she could live there!" He never used to be so bad. The fact that Hugh Grant, although reasonably well off, shares a flat with Charlotte Coleman in Four Weddings is very plausable. Bloody hell, everything in London comes down to home owner envy.

― Anna (Anna), Monday, 6 March 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and on-topic, Kidulthood sounds just like Kids directed by Guy Ritchie.

― Anna (Anna), Monday, 6 March 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

Home-owner-erotica: coming to Channel 4 soon.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 6 March 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

Four Weddings always struck me as v realistic.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 6 March 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

Because I have enough background knowledge of the times and areas his films are set in to see the MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF UNTRUE FAIRY DUST.

this is what i mean by neo-neo-realism!!

where does it say films have to correspond with this kind of reality in this way? obviously i kind of take the point, but even then i'd wager 'love actually' does speak to some people's notion of 'real' london.

i wouldn't mind quite so much if any of the commentators were actually, you know, working-class inhabitants of west london, but they aren't the reason bien pensant librerals hate richard curtis is that they are themselves really more like the cast of 'love actually' than 'kidulthood'.

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Monday, 6 March 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

even then i'd wager 'love actually' does speak to some people's notion of 'real' london

er, yeh: millions of american film-goers ;) ;) ;)

[ducks]

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 6 March 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

what does Martine McCutcheon sound like in Love Actually? does she still tawk like Tiff?

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 6 March 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

can't remember, but i think so, yeah.

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Monday, 6 March 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

there's yer edge then.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 6 March 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

i saw this film and didnt like anyone in it
not one
i thought the girl who got pregnant was nice and her boyfriend meant well but even they were both quite thick (she went off with any boy who was nice to her and he was too impressionable and not that nice himself, really)
i thought the bully guy - sam, played by the writer was good at being intimidating at first, but then, by the end, it started to wear thin and he ended up looking like a bit of an idiot, i almost started laughing at his OTT aggressiveness, it was like something from eastenders

― okok, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

shot by brian tufano -- edddgy!

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

does steve m have a blog or does he write for anywhere i can read more from him? i agree with everything he says most of the time

― stevemfan, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

hi kate

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/pictures/2006/05/10/JohnStillwellPA372.jpg

do you see? it works on so many levels.

― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 09:10 (nineteen years ago)

but girls are not giving out sex like pancakes

3 or 4 times in one day, but only one day a year, just before lent?

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 09:59 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha!

― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 10:04 (nineteen years ago)

i'm laughing, but there's a cold core of truth there.

― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 10:04 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

I liked this film. Some of the acting/scripting needed a bit of lick and polish, but it wasn't without it's arresting and/or funny bits.

― the next grozart, Monday, 29 October 2007 11:57 (seventeen years ago)

seven months pass...

I've not laughed as much as a film since, god, The Sin Eater?

― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Saturday, 14 June 2008 21:31 (seventeen years ago)

lol at the film being seemingly shot entirely in Soho though

― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Saturday, 14 June 2008 21:32 (seventeen years ago)

the key scene that lets you know what a bunch of drama-school wank it is, is when the two girls go to that coked-up dude's flat... and he's an actor. staging the ending at a hampstead mansion is confirmation.

― banriquit, Saturday, 14 June 2008 21:46 (seventeen years ago)

I was thinking more the "look at all the camera tricks in learned at college today" scene soundtracked by the fucking Streets.

― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Saturday, 14 June 2008 21:50 (seventeen years ago)

yeah... the guardian today says the sequel is influenced by 'skins', visually... tbh though, if you've seen 'hotel babylon', every fucking show these days uses spazzy speed-up/slow-mo bits; it's more radical to be like the professionals, ie americans, and try not to be a dick about it.

― banriquit, Saturday, 14 June 2008 22:01 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

saw this a while ago and didn't like it. post above otm re. noel clarke's laughable OTT aggressiveness.

are there any other films that do a similar kind of thing, but that are actually good? like, erm, wire-esque, 'tell it how it is', 'real life' drama type thing?

― The referee was perfect (Chris), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 17:17 (fourteen years ago)

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