Hipster men and testosterone (or lack thereof)

Is there anything non-hipsters would like to know about hipsters, or vice versa?

NEVER FORGET

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NEVER FORGET

Which candy bars do hipsters like?

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What sort of candy bars do hipsters like to puke?

it's basically what The Warriors was about, but forty thousand times more boring.

um. yes?

I'm not sure any other kind of shirts exist now.

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If for some reason you find yourself *caring* about boring scenester kvetching, whatever your scene, then ARGHHH.

Revive! Inspired by a particularly fascinating episode of This American Life.

couldn't help but notice that I'd never been in so many bars where the sausage factor was so high but the testosterone level so low as to be almost sexless

I honestly don't know how to parse this. Unless the men seemed very listless, I doubt very much that their testosterone was at play. Sexual behavior is social behavior, particularly in that setting. Also, there seems to be insufficient proof that testosterone equals aggression. What DOES seem to be born out again and again is that it leads to the desire for dominance in status, and the way that desire is expressed can be aggressive, yes, but can also be through antisocial behavior and rebellion. Your habitual shoplifter likely has a good bit of testosterone. It can also be expressed through diplomacy, even through care-giving -- through whatever means are required to increase social standing. Testosterone seems to reveal itself most directly, in men and in women, by allowing a certain boldness and certitude. The person with testosterone tends to be "the decider," even if only in small and meaningless ways, and tends to defend their position as such.

How do ILXors rank, I wonder...

yeah i wonder

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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that JW has a shit tom of the stuff.

shit TON, I mean.

Tom is another matter.

Testosterone seems to reveal itself most directly, in men and in women, by allowing a certain boldness and certitude. The person with testosterone tends to be "the decider," even if only in small and meaningless ways, and tends to defend their position as such.

OH HAI did someone mention JW?

xp exactly

What DOES seem to be born out again and again is that it leads to the desire for dominance in status babies

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Apart from Barcade, I've seen plenty of people at all of those where the main helping-me-move issue would be less upper-body strength and more "getting everyone to remember show up at the same time and not hungover"

I only went to Cokie's once and the thing I remember most was that the stripey paint job in the back room reminded me of a roller rink, and the bartender was stuck on NYT crossword and let me try. It was fun.

NB: I did not partake of the namesake product on that occasion or for many years following.

I prefer Trash Bar to Luxx about three hundred times over.

Remember those silver poles randomly spaced between the tables and the floor at Luxx? They inspired a bunch of sometimes-ILXors to posit an NYC club at which you had to fit between a set of bars to enter at the door. And the fuller the club got, the closer together the bars would be set.

Whaddya know? A thread with "hipster" in its title turns into a Williamsburg bar thread.

Yes. Perhaps that's why striped clothes are so popular with hipster girls and boys, to blend in with their natural surroundings among the poles at Luxx.

It had the worst sight lines ever and the most disgusting toilet-o-filth. It certainly had a lot of shiny mirrors, though -- a hipster's favorite view.

x-post Wow, a thread actually staying on message with the OP's topic!

I did the best I could to change the topic, really I did. I'm sorry, ILX.

sunday brunch is the highlight of my week. does this mean i'm getting old?

Wait until Gabbneb and I start dueling Upper West Side / Upper East Side bar threads

Mine will just be me posting over and over and bitching about having to move

I imagine cannons sticking out of your apartment high-rise windows, facing off pirate ship style.

That would be cool, except I live on the 4th floor, and far enough north that I would wind up bombing Harlem.

I don't go to upper east side bars, nabisco! Wait, I don't go to bars.

Xp - pp wins

^^ missing the joke

nabisco, why are you trolling Wbug pick-up bars to find people to help you move? Asking someone for moving help must be the #1 gamekiller ever.

none of them would be of any use helping somebody move

I'm trying to decide how I feel about those being called pick-up bars. Not that they aren't, but surely they pale in comparison to the kinds of mid-Manhattan bars where people are explicitly trying to live out Sex and the City.

pale in what comparison?

Are you kidding me? They're living out Gossip Girl.

hipster guys are so not hot

having excessive levels of testosterone sucks. youhave the dong the size of a firehose, but dudes always compete with you for no reason, and youtake too much initaitive and end up looking like a jackass 75% of the time.

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Ladies and gentlemen, Burt Stanton

Actually, I went to three (3) bars last weekend, but there were extenuating circumstances in each case. No Billburg.

When was the last time you were in Williamsburg, tough guy?

Sixth Grade

Take it from Burt Stanton -- his cousin has a lot of testosterone.

I like to imagine gabbneb holds like a half dozen of the high score records on the board at barcade

I like to imagine that too. What's on the board at barcade?

I'm really good at Star Wars but my contacts always dry out.

i found a framed poster in the trash in an alley in highschool w/that burt reynolds photos and put it up in my room that had a window that faced the street. moms made me take it down because she was afraid the neighbors would think i was gay.

don't all hipster dudes have big bushy beards nowadays? Surely that's an index of testosterone.

or weak chins

if mine isn't bushy do i still get to not be a hipster?

A certain (real-life) Chicagoan I know refers to Nick "n/a" and Sarah "McClusky" as hipsters. Not in a disparaging way, but it is still weird to hear them called that.

Umm, I guess she's KitCat, not McClusky now. Still, same person.

that's hilarious.
I remember the big hipster beef between nick and yancey back in the other half of the decade where nick was holding it down richmond style while fellow W&Mster Y had emigrated to the large apple and they had many differences of opinion on what was a valid life stance. then n+s moved to chicago and got married. a beef remake would be interesting for 2008 but none of em don't post hardly t'all no more

They do on the Chicago thread.

sarah posts all the time! And nick's around, he just keeps weird hours sometimes.

I can see why someone might lump them in w/ those I consider hipsters, and as I said to a mutual friend earlier, maybe if I got to know purported hipsters (Wicker-Parkians here), maybe the term would be meaningless and we would all just Get Along. Still, the things that might identify them as hipsters (and if you think about it, they're not hard to pinpoint) are not contrived, and also, those things are pretty limited.

let's take a moment to discuss what exactly a hipster zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

No thanks!

But you gotta admit that it's interesting to have that moniker applied to N & S! And likely to others in our peer group.

Ugh--"peer group"

masculinity in the Anglosphere is often associated with the "survival ethos" of the lower classes, so feminie posturing by men may very well be a sign that they are comfortably distant from that class. thus, the new "alpha male" is the gentle, feminine man.

it's true. we're a generation of men raised by women.

I see all this potential, and I see squandering. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables; slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.

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CHOOSE LIFE

it's true. we're a generation of men raised by women.

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Teen1: Oh, here comes that cannonball guy. He's cool.
Teen2: Are you being sarcastic, dude?
Teen1: I don't even know anymore.
Episode: 3F21 Homerpalooza

Also, insert quote by Tyler Durden.

I felt like destroying something beautiful.