Blind yourself with science! Sex is officially four times as good as masturbation

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LOVERS know only too well that men usually need a "recovery period" after orgasm, and that sexual intercourse with orgasm is more satisfying than an orgasm from masturbation alone. Now scientists think the two phenomena might be linked.

Following orgasm, the hormone prolactin is released into the bloodstream in both men and women. The hormone makes us feel satiated by countering the effect of dopamine, which is released during sexual arousal.

Stuart Brody of the University of Paisley, UK, and Tillmann KrÃ¼ger of the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, measured blood prolactin levels in male and female volunteers who watched erotic films before engaging in masturbation or sexual intercourse to orgasm in the laboratory.

Surprisingly, after orgasm from sexual intercourse, the increase in blood prolactin levels is 400 per cent higher in both sexes compared with after orgasm from masturbation (Biological Psychology, vol 71, p 312).

This explains why orgasm from intercourse is more satisfying than masturbation, says Brody. Since elevated levels of prolactin have been linked to erectile dysfunction, this may also explain why most men need a recovery period after sex.

― Cunga (Cunga), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

i object.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 23:41 (nineteen years ago)

uh yeah.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 23:49 (nineteen years ago)

...male and female volunteers who watched erotic films before engaging in masturbation or sexual intercourse to orgasm in the laboratory.

I wonder if good looks was part of the criteria for acceptance. If I was a porn director, I would create a biopic about one of the subjects.

― josh in sf (stfu kthx), Thursday, 16 March 2006 00:00 (nineteen years ago)

So the key is to masturbate five times as much when you're not getting any.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Thursday, 16 March 2006 00:02 (nineteen years ago)

MAYBE twice as good. four times as good is just untrue.

― killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 16 March 2006 01:36 (nineteen years ago)

MAYBE twice as good. four times as good is just untrue.

Wow. I think you need a new partner.

― Call Me!, Thursday, 16 March 2006 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

being 1/4 as good as sex is still pretty good, tho. i mean, for things you can do for free in your spare time, something 1/4 as good as sex is a pretty hot deal.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 16 March 2006 01:42 (nineteen years ago)

Now all we need are some prolactin tablets to take after a wank session, and we'd be getting there.

― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 16 March 2006 01:56 (nineteen years ago)

So the key is to masturbate five times as much when you're not getting any.

Diminishing returns...

― Jingo, Thursday, 16 March 2006 06:38 (nineteen years ago)

even though i am drunk, i am restraining myself from posting on this thread.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 16 March 2006 06:42 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck science! I can fuck all night without breaks!

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 16 March 2006 06:45 (nineteen years ago)

Course, if you haven't had sex for long enough you forget what 4 times better feels like anyway.

― I'm thinking six, six, six (noodle vague), Thursday, 16 March 2006 06:47 (nineteen years ago)

but it wasn't ... oh never mind.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 16 March 2006 06:48 (nineteen years ago)

I suppose this also explains why sex can be more disappointing than masturbation...

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 16 March 2006 07:00 (nineteen years ago)

jaymc, refraining from posting on a thread also involves not announcing you are not posting! I mean come on, either spill it or don't.

― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Thursday, 16 March 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

So to speak.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 16 March 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

shit, does this mean i have to try and find a way of having sex some time in the next 5 years instead of being happy with a lonely wank???!!?

fuck thought i could just try and forget about it...

― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 16 March 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

being 1/4 as good as sex is still pretty good, tho. i mean, for things you can do for free in your spare time, something 1/4 as good as sex is a pretty hot deal.
-- gypsy mothra (meetm...), March 16th, 2006 1:42 AM. (gypsy mothra) (later) (link)

things you can do for free!

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 16 March 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

are we talking cost of condoms for sex or prostitutes?

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 16 March 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

dude, i have an 18-month-old. sex ain't free.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 16 March 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

you use condoms when you jerk off?

― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Thursday, 16 March 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

i wonder if the kleenex industry has ever estimated the importance of wanking to their bottom line?

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 16 March 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

Do these scientists take into consideration that most women don't have orgasms from intercourse? Which is more satisfying intercouse without orgasm or masturbation with?

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, and what about multiple orgasms in women? This "proactin" stuff doesn't sound like it's anything to do with us.

― The Boring Machine (kate), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

From what I know of men in my social circle, the kleenex industry is making exactly zippo dollars off of wanking.

― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

the sock industry on the other hand....

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

paper towels, brah.

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

rosemary OTM.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

thre are specific problems with toilet paper that i will not go into on this forum

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Haha. Yes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

OK now i'm really upset that i even said that

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know why it took me so long to convert from tissue to socks, which happened sometime at the end of college, I think. Socks are both less wasteful and less conspicuous, since they just get thrown back in with your dirty clothes rather than wadded up in a pile behind the bed.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

I am still sort of horrified about the popularity of socks as post wank clean up tool. I will never really understand men.

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

they are there

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

OK this thread.

― Dan (My Own Fault For Clicking But Still) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

I was about to say, Dan.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

I have heard that a sneeze is like an eighth of an orgasm, so which of the following equations is true?

w = 8sn
se = 4w
therefore
se = 32sn

se = 8sn
se = 4w
therefore
w = 2sn

― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

If it's the latter, for all the effort involved, I think I'd rather have a sneeze.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

You people must have really soft socks

― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

Do these scientists take into consideration that most women don't have orgasms from intercourse? Which is more satisfying intercouse without orgasm or masturbation with?

that was the post i was originally OTMing but it worked out well either way

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

madchen i think i get the derivation of your other abbrevs but what about "w"?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

WANK

― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

it occurs to me that there is a market for some new absorption tissue, for both post-wank and post-coitus cleanup. something more hardy than toilet paper, but flushable (unlike paper towels). the paper industry is missing a bet. (don't forget the tasteful floral-print holders to sit unobtrusively bedside.) (and i know socks and washcloths and whatever are more environmentally conscious.)

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

You're not wanking into the socks, Ned. Or, um, I'm not.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

Wouldn't one of these do?
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0009F3P4O.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

derrr (sorry i am american)

xpost OW OW OW OW

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

it's the lysol douche for men.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

It would seem the first couple of posts on this thread typed with one hand.

xpost - okay how does this sock thing work???

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

ok socks and t-shirts are totally conspicuous unless y'all have a complete dearth of white socks and t-shirts going on. HELLO GROSS STAINS THAT DON'T COMPLETELY COME OUT WITH BLEACH EVEN.

― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Thursday, 16 March 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

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more bitter if anything

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Saturday, 18 March 2006 07:22 (nineteen years ago)

It, you know, depends.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 18 March 2006 10:17 (nineteen years ago)

That reminds me of a joke.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 18 March 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

If there's some yellow dried stuff, someone's not drinking enough water! Try comparing mid-afternoon piss when you've been drinking water all day (nearly clear) to post-drinking hangover piss (dark enough to make you wonder if the beer even digested).

― mike h. (mike h.), Saturday, 18 March 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Uh, semen, not piss, is staining things yellow. Is the theory. I think.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 18 March 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

i never have piss stains and i certainly do NOT dab.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 19 March 2006 08:01 (nineteen years ago)

The best thing is to combine sex with masturbation:
Probably to biggest contribution of pornography to real-life sex (cumshot that is)

― dare there, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

Yes society has improved muchly for that.

I actually don't understand people who make a big effort to clean up post sex. I mean, it seems kinda clinical?

― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Well, only if it involves having a shower and that (almost 'let's return to the pre-sex clean state')

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

Actually that's the kind of clean up that disturbs me the most, wiping off drip from down your legs is one thing but like the ultra-thorough wet washcloths or shower people kind of weird me a little bit. Obviously there are some exception circumstances, and I guess if you are having sex in the shower that's different.

― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

Ally, I dated someone who was really into the clean-up and the return to fully-dressed normalcy and could NOT chillax, which made me very sad. But I think the washcloth is a different and much more thoughtful sort of gesture and sort of an enjoyable thing on its own so I give that a pass.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

"chillax"!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Dude I dated a guy who made us take a shower every time we had sex. Like, I mean, if we had sex 3 times in a row they'd have to be interrupted with showers. If it was 3 am, so what, showers. It was weird as hell. It was really, really creepy actually.

― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

YOU WIN.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

Gawd, was there brillo involved? Did he insist on shedding a whole epidermal layer each time?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

I don't even remember there being soap involved! Just him sitting in the shower, staring off into space. GALLERY OF WINNERS.

― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

Be nice, Tracer -- you are going to be stuck in a car with me for hours and hours.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

I knew a couple of people who both insisted on taking a bath before sex - they didn't want to touch those dirty parts on anyone unless they were fresh from a bath.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

Sex IN the shower is far more fun then pre- or post-coital washing.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

there is something to be said for the taste & smell of a freshly washed vagina that can not be said for an unwashed one.

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel I was not makin fun! You need to CHILLAX

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

NO FIGHTING NEXT WEEKEND

― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Where are you guys going?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Colombia.

― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Hee. BUT MOOOOOOM, TRACER THREW MY SHOE OUT THE WINDOOWWWW.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

I need to post this picture of Tom Ford and this thread seems like a winner.

http://kollegedaily.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/tomford2.jpg

― Je4nne Æ’urÂ¥ (Je4nne Fury), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

OTM!

― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

Is that a steering wheel or a car buffer?

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

Showers? Baths? Buffers? WTF ever happened to rolling over and going to sleep?

― phil d. (Phil D.), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

gone, with all shreds of our masculinity.

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Rolling over!? Be a man! Just pass out in whatever position you were in when you came.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Well, there's momentum to deal with, that'll usually roll you over on its own.

― phil d. (Phil D.), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

If you're doing it correctly, anyway.

― phil d. (Phil D.), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Good ol' Mo Mentum.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

I had a NSFW dream concerning Tracer Hand that was most likely inspired by this thread :/

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 23 March 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

What were you doing dreaming at work?

― M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 23 March 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's pretty hot to nestle in each other's love juices, but if I'm alone I don't really want it on me. And if cum is allowed to linger for a few hours without drying it STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN. (If you ever have a quickie and quickly put away your wang or cooch in underwear and pants, the drippings will just sit there and ferment. Especially if you're a dude with plenty of foreskin. GAK.)

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Thursday, 23 March 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

You're uncut? Or you've been with uncut guys?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 23 March 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

Alone clean up vs sex clean up are two totally different things. I understand dude aloneness clean up.

xpost jaymc party foul

― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Thursday, 23 March 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

File -> Save

― Dan (File Updated) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 23 March 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

For the record, I wouldn't ask that question of most ILXors, except Jesse has been known to shove his tongue down my throat upon occasion, so I figure it's fair game.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 23 March 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

You're uncut? Or you've been with uncut guys?

I'm cut, but I bunch up a lot when flaccid (ultra-grower, not show-er). And I have been with uncut guys. And they fucking rock my world. I love uncut dingdong like I love life itself.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Thursday, 23 March 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.cybercandy.co.uk/acatalog/1720.jpg

― Dan (Knock Yerself Out) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 23 March 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.brushcreek.com/images/mags/fq35full.jpg

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Thursday, 23 March 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

That's not me, btw.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Thursday, 23 March 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

I seriously thought that said "Ian Chappell's My Wonderful Foreskin". Crikey!

― dr lulu (dr lulu), Thursday, 23 March 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

http://search.liga.kiev.ua/IMAGES/tretya_sila_med.jpg

― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 23 March 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

I seriously thought that said "Ian Chappell's My Wonderful Foreskin". Crikey!

It does, doesn't it?

― Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Thursday, 23 March 2006 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, Chappell.

― Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Thursday, 23 March 2006 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

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