President Bush

This is my favorite part (especially as it is a complete non sequitur).

This bullshit has been floating around in the national toilet bowl for 5 years.

etc.

i think it's been misused as a reason to not take ownership for our problems. "oh, no use in fighting this oppression or working for peace, Jesus is just about here!" or worse, "if we let this middle east fighting happen, maybe that's God's work, maybe this is how the end times come... WE'RE ALMOST TO PARADISE! PRAISE GOD!"

total bullshit. ugh... the left behind series. fucking awful.
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certain End Times folks are a bit more active on this front, with doing whatever they can to bring on war so that Jesus will show.

Really. This also has to do with schmucks like Pat Robertson saying God struck down Sharon with a stroke for "dividing up Israel."

http://www.rotten.com/library/religion/armageddon/

http://www.rotten.com/library/religion/apocalypse/

Which is less funny than McFarland's post-Katrina "go away, I'm reading Superfudge" joke.

xpost well played blount

best first sexual experience ever?

You have an odd way about you.

people gotta remember that the nationalistic christianity being peddled by robertson, falwell, and some GOPers is NOT majority theology. in fact, it's pretty much regarded as bad theology. God didn't send Bush to free the world. the US isn't the sole benefactor of God's grace. etc etc.

to these guys, attacking the nation is a sin. it's being critical of God's plan. not listening to God's people makes you evil or likely to be part of the axis of evil. it's all christian-coded nationalism.

to be against that is nothing like the hating anticon fan you bring up.

that's at least my understanding of what you said. possibly i misunderstood.
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source?

even 87% of US protestants is incredible, as in hard to believe. unless you're counting roman catholics as hardcore biblical literalists which is inaccurate.

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just when conversing with one's pastor, i suppose

my dad: "i could never vote for kerry, he's too liberal!"
me: "not nearly liberal enough!"

seriously, he wasn't. but attach the word "liberal" to him and suddenly he's a horrible person.

plenty of people don't think Bush was sent by God. not like Bush just about describes it. like it was a vision he had or some OT burning bush moment. they're more likely to keep voting for the party, not necessarily the man. sometimes it seems abundantly clear to me that for the average GOP voter... it's party first, then country, then humanity at large. they'll bend all manner of logic to justify offense to country and humanity as long as the party is spared embarassment. "it's not really torture, it's more like a frat party!"

adding christianity to the mix has just made the whole thing that much more offensive to mainstream christianity and christianity at large in the world... that order should be humanity first, then country and party at some fairly important nth point... flipping it and saying, "We do this as a Christian nation" is awful.

what is the american way anymore?
what makes us the good guys and them the bad guys?

they're advertising american = christian = gop = good guys.

what we've gotten lately is more like just gop.

where's consumer reports dude? where's the better business bureau?
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end times huh - no shit!

the point that i wanted to make when i posted that was that its not just that some folks see world events as Signs O' the End Times, but that a few are actively working to bring it on.

and you're mixing up your posters here. It's Nairn who always crouched anything he posted as being "the Christian point of view." All the rightwing religious political shit I've talked about on here was about about a very select political group, not as "oh it's just them xians at it again." Other posters have done exactly that, tho, e.g. the "Conservative Christians" thread.

If i start citing DU/indymedia convos, tho, then feel free to ignore me.

OTM. But sometimes I think my Democratic friends perform the same leaps in logic for Hillary Clinton, ignoring her pandering and oatmeal rhetoric, insisting she stands for "progressive" values.

totally true! i completely agree. the sad thing is, that really makes me wonder... what is the democratic party actually about?

the answers coming to mind ain't pretty.
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i pulled 87 out of my ass, maybe i was thinking # who dont believe in evolution???

half the time i'm too lazy to type out everything i have to say about a topic, so i use a link as shorthand.

http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/news/2004/US/724_public_view_of_creationism_and_11_19_2004.asp

evo. stats from:

Demographically, the article reports, belief that evolution is well-supported by the evidence is strongest "among those with the most education, liberals, those living in the West, those who seldom attend church, and ... Catholics," and weakest among "those with the least education, older Americans ..., frequent church attendees, conservatives, Protestants, those living in the middle of the country, and Republicans."

To assess public opinion on creationism, Gallup asked:

Which of the following statements comes closest to your views on the origin and development of human beings?
1) Human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God guided this process,
2) Human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God had no part in this process,
3) God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so?
Polled in November 2004, 38% of respondents chose (1), 13% chose (2), 45% chose (3), and 4% offered a different or no opinion. These results are also similar to those from previous Gallup polls, which extend back to 1982.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/RecoveringAlcoholic-In-ChiefDownsOn.jpg

Lima, Nov. 23 (ANDINA).- Peru has successfully promoted its national drink "Pisco Sour" during the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) Leaders' Summit, Peru’s Environment Minister Antonio Brack said Sunday.

He noted that the flagship drink of Peru was well acepted by international guests, including Japan's Prime Minister, Taro Aso.

"Pisco Sour has been the "star" of the APEC Summit, the drink was served in several meetings at the Government Palace and the APEC Summit venue,” he told CPN Radio.

"We have achieved to place our products including pisco on international markets, but also kiwicha, sweet potatoes and traditional Peruvian potatoes", said Brack.

U.S. President George W. Bush, who quit drinking at 40, was apparently drinking a Peruvian cocktail during a meeting on Saturday.

Pisco Sour is a cocktail containing Pisco (a Peruvian brandy), lemon juice, egg whites, simple syrup, and regional bitters.

http://blog.cleveland.com/world_impact/2008/11/large_Waving-George-W-Bush-Nov23-08-Peru_APEC_Summit_Meye.JPG

"regional bitters" sounds like a pro-palin group.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/images/1121-01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/pariahinchief.jpg

I would not be surprised at all if at this point Bush had started drinking again.

poncho ceremony

in all fairness, if i'd realised that graduation wear could make you look like clint eastwood, i'd have ruffled things up a little.

does anyone know what a clip i saw at the end of the daily show a while back was - it was some ceremony, i think a recent summit for a bunch of flighty world leaders, and they were all marching along shaking hands with someone on a stage. bush was wandering slowly away from the line, not shaking hands with anyone, notable by omission. is this ringing any bells? what was going on?

nobody wanted to touch the political herpes that is george bush. that's what was happening.

If I were him, I'd be drunk 24/7. What does he have to lose?

omg he just said "during I arrived at the president"

there was a montage of him saying that again AND AGAIN on jon stewart last night. it's fucking insane. maybe it's surprising anew now that we've been spoiled with a president who can string sentences together, but it's so depressing that he could just plough through sentences picking ideas out of the air and bluffing and blundering like tom cruise on scientology.

he's no sarah p

there's that mike judge film about a guy who seems intelligent only by comparison to everyone else. mmm.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00674/air-force-bush1_674702n.jpg

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/captioncall/0602-bush-air-force.jpg

me and my pal Jesse goofing off

http://blogs.reuters.com/oddly-enough/files/2008/05/bush-crop-360.jpg

he is on the phone do u see :D

I heard this interview on NPR yesterday with Condi Rice, who was asked what her plans were following the end of the Bush administration.

Her answer - basically,to return to Stanford U. and write books - was given in a way that made it sound like she wants to take the overnight flight out of Dulles the night before the inauguration, wearing sunglasses, and sit in the back of the plane. "Get me out of here as quickly and unnoticed as possible."

http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Condoleezza-Rice-new.jpg

"And the asshole BETTER call before he shows up in Palo Alto. So I can be out of town."

loved this

http://morris.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/mirror-mirror-on-the-wall/