Carphone Warehouse to offer 'free' broadband

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What's the betting this will be shonky as anything?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 09:34 (twenty years ago)

I have to go to a presentation about this in 20mins :P

It's not actually FREE though - you have to pay £9.99 a month (which gets you free national calls + free calls to 28 countries) to get the broadband.

Shitty thing is I can't switch to this even though I work for the fucking company because the broadband package I'm on at the moment is too shit to give me a MAC code.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 09:42 (twenty years ago)

ah they were talking about this on teh radio this morning. apparently it's not really free, you have to pay £11 a month for something and a £30 connection fee and if you are misfortunate enough to live in Teh Regions there's an extra £10 a month, and THEN you get it. for free.

emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 09:44 (twenty years ago)

The £11 is for line rental which you have to pay anyway if you have a landline.

I will be able to answer all questions about this in about an hour! That's if I can't skip out of it.

We are already foreseeing problems. They won't be able to deal with the sign-ups quick enough, if you do go for this, expect to wait a while before it gets sorted out.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 09:46 (twenty years ago)

Psst - ask if the phonecalls are unmetered. I need to know this for work porpoises.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 09:53 (twenty years ago)

Calls are unmetered AFAIK. For national calls & calls to 28 countries. The broadband is meant to be 8MB unlimited, but how unlimited I don't know, as the word "unlimited" in broadband adverts has a different meaning to the dictionary.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 09:55 (twenty years ago)

according to the press release i saw earlier, unlimited calls, BUT 40GB download limit (which is quite a lot really)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 09:56 (twenty years ago)

p2p blocked?

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 10:10 (twenty years ago)

do you mean 8mbps connection?!?!?!

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 10:17 (twenty years ago)

OK just came out -

It's 8Mbps IF they've unbundled your exchange, otherwise it's 2Mb (max you can get via BT) until they unbundle.

The 40GB limit might not actually be enforced (they don't know yet)

Nothing about P2P mentioned.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 10:36 (twenty years ago)

the good thing about this is not that carphone warehouse are doing it, but that hopefully their move will force a bunch of other providers to do the same...ill wait a while i think

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 11:30 (twenty years ago)

from their own faq

"What will happen if my use is very high?
If you only occasionally have very high usage, we're unlikely to be concerned unless it becomes a regular occurrence. If this does happen then we'll get in touch to help you find ways to reduce your usage.
Ultimately, if your usage still remains excessive despite our attempts to help you reduce it, we may restrict your general Internet service throughout the entire day. A last resort will be to suspend your service and possibly close your account.
We definitely don't want to do that, TalkTalk is all about giving our customers the best possible phone and broadband service and with your support we'll work with you and hopefully avoid this from happening.


Does TalkTalk Broadband allow peer-to-peer (P2P) downloading?
We don't stop our customers using file-sharing software (often known as peer-to-peer or P2P), but we keep an eye out for anyone abusing the rules. We will work to restrict P2P users who slow down the network for everyone else (see below). And we certainly don't condone using P2P software to illegally share copyrighted music, or to breach any other local law or regulation.


How is peer-to-peer (P2P) downloading restricted?
We restrict P2P activity in peak hours to make sure that other general Internet use takes priority (including surfing, email, shopping, gaming and commercial downloads). Between midnight and 8am we allow a greater proportion of P2P traffic."


Hmmmmm.

zappi (joni), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 11:32 (twenty years ago)

p2p shaping = bad news if you want to use p2p, in my experience (eg f2s have basically made slsk unusable).

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:47 (twenty years ago)

f2s have basically made slsk unusable

Explain? My connection has been cutting out a lot recently and I'm wondering if this could be why.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:04 (twenty years ago)

In the presentation someone asked how they would enforce the 40GB limit and the bloke said they haven't decided if they're going to, or if it's just there as a guide to encourage people not to go too mad.

How do they cap P2P traffic? I'm no expert - do they restrict certain ports or something?

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:29 (twenty years ago)

It is nice of them to want to help people cut down their usage.

Do they help you cut down your usage if you ring a random person in all 28 countrues every night, to ask them if they've got any football stickers for swapsies, for example?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:44 (twenty years ago)

Someone asked how they're going to make any money off this if people make a lot of international calls, they just said international calls are cheap and most people don't make very many.

Apparently it costs them more to route a call to Newcastle than to New York. I ought to know that since I work in rating/billing but maybe that doesn't apply to our switches.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:53 (twenty years ago)

It's 8Mbps IF they've unbundled your exchange

What's the distance limit for 8Mbps, though?

(We get 2Mbps for £pounds;15, so I don't think we're likely to switch somehow)

2Mb (max you can get via BT)

BT are starting 4Mbps and 8Mbps very soon.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:01 (twenty years ago)

Distance limit?

>> BT are starting 4Mbps and 8Mbps very soon

Well then I guess they'll give 4-8Mbps when that happens. Basically you get BT broadband if they haven't unbundled the exchange, but CPW pay for it. They're losing a shitload on this (for the 1st year at least)

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:13 (twenty years ago)

matt - basically i now find that it's fine for the 1st track i dl from someone, and then the 2nd track onwards drops to like 0.2 k/s and then fails. the adslguide forums have confirmed this is due to f2s's p2p shaping. they seem to have lost a lot of p2p customers recently (which is prbably what they want, of course).

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:23 (twenty years ago)

Fuck's sake... are there any broadband ISPs in this country that aren't absolute shit?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:08 (twenty years ago)


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