Katie Holmes Has Become A Scientologist

"Katie, too," Cruise replied.

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uh??

http://tulsatvmemories.com/lionel/dummy.gif

But he denied US media reports that he had bought a dummy to muffle the moans of his partner as she gave birth.

no wonder nicole adopted

I dunno--shoving a pacifier in a woman's mouth while she's giving birth sounds plenty freaky to me!

http://popsugar.com/5201

"You can be Catholic and a Scientologist. You can be Jewish and be a Scientologist. But we're just Scientologists."

Hubbard on Catholisim:

“A very successful operation to control the spirit, minds, and bodies of those who fell under its thrall before they attained an age where they could reason and discriminate and choose for themselves.”

also he writes that Christ never existed but he is in our minds from something called the "R6 implant" put in our heads million of years ago.

Thanks. That explains this NSFW image when searching for "dummy" http://re2.mm-c1.yimg.com/image/1366321017 (sorry)

haha i knew a chick who got involved with that landmark bullshit

-- sunny successor (gangsta...), April 14th, 2006.

i dont think your entry-level scientologist really knows about the alien thing. isnt the Xenu crap the shit they tell you when you've reached a certain "level"?

chick corea on the other hand ... dude's obviously a believer.

But if we know, doesn't this suggest that the Xenu crap is becoming common knowledge?

Hubbard detailed the story in Operating Thetan level III (OT III) in 1967, famously warning that R6 was "calculated to kill (by pneumonia etc) anyone who attempts to solve it." The Xenu story was the start of the use of the volcano as a common symbol of Scientology and Dianetics from 1968 to the present day.

Much of the criticism of the Church of Scientology focuses on the story of Xenu. The Church has tried to keep Xenu confidential; critics claim revealing the story is in the public interest, given the high prices charged for OT III, part of Scientology's secret "Advanced Technology" doctrines taught only to members that have already contributed large amounts of money to the organization.

The Church avoids making mention of Xenu in public statements and has gone to considerable effort to maintain the story's confidentiality, including legal action on the grounds of both copyright and trade secrecy. Despite this, much material on Xenu has leaked to the public.

haha xpost, I knew as soon as I hit submit that it sounded like I meant that!

well at this point it's common knowledge (IIRC the Co$ sued someone for leaking the Xenu info on the internet many years ago), but i doubt they advertise their sc-fi gooey center to new recruits.

the disturbing thing about this time around is that all the details of their cartoon mythology's been leaked online, so the smackdown's emphasis has been on the fantastic stories about Xenu and the aliens and 'how stupid you'd have to be to believe', and not the murder, the extortion, the kidnapping, the brainwashing, the lawsuits, the harrassment, etc.

and the result is I've had three disorienting lunchtime conversations with people where someone pops out with the classic 'Well Hell, let 'em believe what they want to, Freedom of Religion, right? Just leave 'em alone to do whatever' etc. etc. etc. and that's incredibly disturbing, so I don't think the establishment smackdown this time around has been quite loud enough yet

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Did she MSPaint her face when she forgot her makeup somewhere?

She looks still better than most of us. That said, apparently she's doing some purification diet for her next alien baby. I shouldn't really criticize: my diet consisted of lots of french fries and pizzas.

I have been told that KH has her own personal security team of Secret Service types who go in everywhere and SWEEP THE ROOM for bugs, bombs, guns etc in that deliciously paranoid-narcissistic way Hollywood feels entitled to. Source: friend who is costumier on Teh N4nny Di4ri3s, as told to mutual friend, who says that KH seems to be style-idolising our costumey pal (but not in yeooow yuck makeup terms). Costumey friend also reports KH much nicer than one would expect under the circumstances.

bugs, bombs, guns etc engrams

never change suz

I'm reading odd rumors about her in the French press.

such as

http://madame.lefigaro.fr/celebrites/faut-sauver-katie-holmes-010311-138484

what's the gist of that, Michael?

Speculation that she's going to divorce

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1355130/Katie-Holmes-looks-sad-distant-Tom-Cruise-night-Suri.html

KH is depressed that her marriage to Cruise hasn't done anything for her career, thinks Cruise is a weirdo, and wants to raise Suri in a more diverse environment (i.e., not just among other Scientologists) than he does.

Since his diet and herbal green tea (in the event of a second pregnancy) in early 2010, Katie has never really smiled. Tom had sex with other men ... so what? Tom is accused by the FBI of involvement in the exploitation of followers of Scientology: she goes to buy shoes for Suri. Tom takes Suri with dinner at a Thai restaurant where the paparazzi are also output: it does not move a wand. In Vancouver with her husband on the set of Mission Impossible 4 , it seems worse than living hell ( see photos ).

the evidence seems limited to something a UK fashion mag said and pictures of her frowning?

yeah, id say this story does not move a wand

why are you reading 'le figaro madame', is the bigger question

xp Think a moment. She is married to Tom Cruise, who is raising her child to be a little version of himself. How could she be happy? The idea that she would want to divorce him is, far from being "odd", but rather the sanest thing I've heard about their marriage since it happened. It's probably just a baseless rumor, but it's worth hoping it's true.

she has been in the center of a major cult for a long time now, if she ever leaves it's more a deprogramming than a divorce

why would someone who loves tom cruise be unhappy with a mini tom cruise?

The hypothesis that she loves Tom Cruise after living with him for many years does not compute.

why are you reading 'le figaro madame', is the bigger question

The real question is why I read Le Figaro at all, but that story was a link on the online newspaper site.

I agree it's utter bullshit journalism but it's the kind of thing that would be pretty big celebrity news in the US (esp., after the NYer article on Scientology) so I wondered if anybody else had heard anything.

the idea that she would love tom cruise less after years of him being tom cruise around her also doesn't compute, I mean she fell in love with a man who acted like tom cruise - the tom crusiness appealed to her. over the years he has become even more tom cruise-y she should probably love him more.

Her life is unbelievably weird - whatever room she's going to be in for any length of time is combed for bugs etc by about 12 bodyguards (friend who said this worked with her on a film) but other than that, I don't know what to say. Will try to get add'l info.

the idea that she would love tom cruise less after years of him being tom cruise around her also doesn't compute, I mean she fell in love with a man who acted like tom cruise - the tom crusiness appealed to her. over the years he has become even more tom cruise-y she should probably love him more.

It's worth noting that she married someone who was her movie-star crush when she was a kid. I don't think it's inconceivable that she was blinded by that for a while.

it's worth noting this was a total publicity sham set up by clam handlers who'd been auditioning actresses for the role of Tom Cruise's Wife for a year, too

Yeah I vaguely recall back then reading that a few had been approached for... "dates"?

i had movie star crushes when i was a kid too, but i don't think it would blind me to this stuff, particularly if i were a reasonably successful and well-off actress in my own right

I was always suprised she had no problem with his position in the clams.

Or, if she did, she put that aside for... whatever reason.

all I really want to say is that a mini Tom Cruise must be really, REALLY tiny

I wonder if it upsets Joey to see Jen get nominated for Oscars.

etymology of 'clam handlers' plz?

http://www.xenu.net/clam_faq.html

lol @ the extrapolations made in that article from a few photos of KH looking like a ~normal person~.

"Dowdy: Katie's outfit of unflattering cardigan, trousers and boots earlier this week was far removed from her usual stylish chic"

this morning i was telling someone i'm waiting for her to divorce and write the tell all memoir that ruins tom and scientology

o what a day that will be

how comes Nicole K didn't do that already?

can't write

yeah, id say this story does not move a wand

Incidentally, elle ne bouge pas une baguette should be translated more as 'she never touched her chopsticks' more than something about not touching wands.

what does that idiom even mean, "it doesn't matter"?

It means she didn't eat anything at the Thai restaurant they were writing about.

hah

frenglish is hard

i don't have anything much to add to the speculation, but i will add that i clearly remember katie holmes before tom and after tom -- the difference is pretty stark, and can't be attributed only to maturity. she disappeared. i lived in wilmington when dawson's creek first started and a lot of people i knew and worked with also worked on set doing various things. i remember stories of her being very spirited, energetic, and happy. one would be hard pressed to describe her using any of those words now and she should be in her prime.

the bug story alone...i mean...

this thread is not going to disappoint

Well she's not getting laid, that's evident. It's probably making her pretty dour and stressed.

I am always amazed that baguette has never become a french slang term for dick

it is if you say it the right way

well yeah I'm sure it makes sense in context, I mean like a widespread everyday slang term, it seems so perfect

Baguette magique...

The idea that Nicole Kidman and Katie Holmes did not sign rock-solid Oprah+ non-disclosure agreements is nuts. We'll learn nothing til he's dead, and even then, who knows?

LOL, if you google 'clam handlers' it tries to show you 'claim handlers'.

Friend reporting the 'sweep for (electronic) bugs by pseudo-Secret Service types' works with a fuckton of major stars in her job and none of the others have even approached that level of professional paranoia.