Getting Stoned in Front of the Kids. C/D

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I've got friends who do it but...not sure of the consequences though. But I must be gettin' old if I'm questioning shit like this.

― dr lulu (dr lulu), Thursday, 20 April 2006 22:48 (twenty years ago)

Dud. If you've got kids you should be responsible and remain alert, at least while they're awake.

― naus (Robert T), Thursday, 20 April 2006 23:16 (twenty years ago)

It is possible to be alert and responsible when you're stoned. Much moreso than if you've had a couple of drinks. (unless you're really stoned, in which case you're a bit of an idiot really.)

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 20 April 2006 23:18 (twenty years ago)

dud

― youn, Thursday, 20 April 2006 23:21 (twenty years ago)

not in front of, but when they're old enough, with is a total classic.

― the unbearable lightness of peeing (orion), Thursday, 20 April 2006 23:24 (twenty years ago)

I can't imagine wanting to get full-on stoned with kids around, if only because it doesn't sound much fun: they'd be all bugging you and having needs and stuff while you're trying to relax (like more than usual), and you might get all paranoid about how you're acting and how the kids are perceiving you, and you'd have to explain to them the whole deal about how it's illegal and they shouldn't talk about it, which would be horrible, plus they'd talk about it anyway, and ... the only possible perk would be enjoying children's movies with them, which for certain ages would just creep them out anyway. I'd assume people who do this are the kinds of super-habitual smokers for whom the whole thing doesn't affect them much more than a couple glasses of wine, but it still seems like a giant dud. I'm not sure why I'm even thinking it through: big-ass dud!

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 20 April 2006 23:36 (twenty years ago)

ian otm

― shredding repis on the gnar gnar rad (chaki), Thursday, 20 April 2006 23:37 (twenty years ago)

For the purposes of this thread, can we define the upper limit of "kids" please? xpost

― the unbearable lightness of peeing (orion), Thursday, 20 April 2006 23:38 (twenty years ago)

I mean I guess I'm trying to imagine if there was no issue of legality, how I'd feel about it then, and the truth is that I don't like the thought of parents being drunk around their kids, and I think that extends here. (Make appropriate distinctions as you want between wine-with-dinner vs "drunk" and different levels of smoking vs stoned, but the general idea is that you get actually altered in your free time with your peers and keep things stable when you're actually around your kids, because they have expectations of you: to behave in a stable, reliable way, and to be on call to handle even the kinds of emergencies that will probably never happen.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 20 April 2006 23:41 (twenty years ago)

Right so I'm imagining "kids" as like birth to puberty here.

With teenagers it's a whole different set of issues, the main one being that you'd be giving them model and invitation to do the same themselves (hahaha "I learned it from watching you"), which I don't consider a good idea -- even apart from the fact that it's illegal and teenagers aren't good at getting away with illegal things (plus the fact that drug convictions now bar you from all college financial aid!), high-school stonerdom seems pretty risky in terms of eating up your time and motivation and eclipsing all the boring stuff you really should be doing. College stonerdom less so, but to be cool with your high-school kid getting high would require an unimaginable level of confidence in their levelheadedness and decision-making and priorities and all that other stuff that high-school kids just totally don't have.

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 20 April 2006 23:48 (twenty years ago)

it seems like a bad idea for a lot of reasons. and i can't think of anything that makes it seem like a good or necessary idea. having a beer or a glass of wine with dinner is a different story. and yeah, part of my problem with the idea of smoking in front of kids is that it's illegal, and even though i'm all in favor of legalization, as long as it's not i think it creates a difficult moral situation for parents. i guess you could use it as a way to talk about the difference between what's legal and what's moral, with a digression to the civil rights movement or something, but that's a bit of a stretch just to justify a toke. wait til they go to bed or something.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 20 April 2006 23:57 (twenty years ago)

My mom was okay with me being a stoner in HS, though she didn't know the full extent of my weed-dom. and FWIW, it had no negative effects in re: SATs, getting into college, etc.

Just saying, if I'm still smoking pot when my kids reach That Age (15, 16) then I'd rather get stoned WITH them than have them doing it in their friends cars, behind the school, etc. xpst

― the unbearable lightness of peeing (orion), Thursday, 20 April 2006 23:58 (twenty years ago)

My mom and her husband did this all the time, leaving me (at 13) to deal with everything including full responsibility for my younger brother and sister. It kept me from ever wanting anything to do with drugs of any sort out of my teenaged disgust, which maybe was a good thing, but now that I'm too old and decrepit (and working in a classified type job) for first-time fun like that I blame them for my lack of experimentation. ymmv, obviously.

― Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 21 April 2006 00:02 (twenty years ago)

my mom is still embarrassed to tell me she tried LSD 35 years ago.

― Dominique (dleone), Friday, 21 April 2006 00:05 (twenty years ago)

if I'm still smoking pot when my kids reach That Age (15, 16) then I'd rather get stoned WITH them than have them doing it in their friends cars, behind the school, etc.

Sure, ideally -- but for me at That Age (and a lot of others) half the fun was getting AWAY from my parents and doing something WITH MY FRIENDS that I was NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. If it hadn't been pot it woulda been something else. Just sayin'.

― aasvogel, Friday, 21 April 2006 00:07 (twenty years ago)

most teenagers aren't as stong-minded (read wise) as Jaq

TS: being stoned ifotk VS getting stoned ifotk

#1 ok in small doses maybe like at a gathering w/ other (sober)adults present VS #2 lame lame lame any way you shake it

i remember getting stoned at 17 w/somebody's hillbilly mom who "partied with the kids" and it was really weird & depressing

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Friday, 21 April 2006 00:07 (twenty years ago)

but then, my friend who's dad would bring us beers while we were playing music in the basement, and would sometimes strap on a guitar for a few songs, that was pretty cool. so it's hard to generalize. (it's true tho that if he'd been bringing us a bong instead of beers, that woulda seemed kinda weird. which gets back to the beer-vs-weed thing.)

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 21 April 2006 00:21 (twenty years ago)

whose dad, grr.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 21 April 2006 00:25 (twenty years ago)

Thanks gypsy, now I 've got Bad by Michael Jackson in my head.

― dr lulu (dr lulu), Friday, 21 April 2006 00:31 (twenty years ago)

shamon!

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 21 April 2006 00:44 (twenty years ago)

Gypsy, would it have been weird if it had been your own dad bringing out the beers and playing along with the band? I think I tolerated better and maybe enjoyed behavior in my friends' parents that mortified me in my own.

― Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 21 April 2006 01:07 (twenty years ago)

my mom just went to bed
so now i can smoke pot.

funny, how this is working out.

― the unbearable lightness of peeing (orion), Friday, 21 April 2006 01:10 (twenty years ago)

Gypsy, would it have been weird if it had been your own dad bringing out the beers and playing along with the band?

hmm, hard to say. yeah, probably. definitely true that what can seem cool in other people's parents can seem embarrassing in your own.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 21 April 2006 01:20 (twenty years ago)

one's own parents are embarassing no matter what, though.

― the unbearable lightness of peeing (orion), Friday, 21 April 2006 01:21 (twenty years ago)

I personally believe high school is the perfect time to be a stoner. It's when you have enough freedom and ingenuity to get away with it, and not enough responsibilities for it to do you any huge amount of harm. (unless you get totally sucked into it, as some unfortunates have the propensity to do)

I think demonstrating responsible use of dope in front of your kids is probably not a bad thing. You definitely shouldn't in front of another person's kids, unless their parents are explicitly cool with it. I have friends whose parents smoked in front of them unashamedly from an early age, and it didn't adversely affect them as far as I can tell. (ie I can't see any real difference in their academic performance / social life / creative output compared to their peers whose parents didn't smoke when they were kids - if anything, the children-of-dope-smokers seemed to outperform the other kids)

Certainly if you have a problem/dependancy/addiction with a substance you shouldn't do it in front of your kids, as it sends them an obviously pretty negative image. If you have your shit together and are otherwise happy and successful, I don't see why it's a problem really.

― Andrew (enneff), Friday, 21 April 2006 02:19 (twenty years ago)

Dud. No question.

― someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Friday, 21 April 2006 03:37 (twenty years ago)

one's own parents are embarassing no matter what, though.

-- the unbearable lightness of peeing (dr.carl.saga...), April 21st, 2006.

otm

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 21 April 2006 03:43 (twenty years ago)

I'd be curious to know how many of the people who've said "dud" actually have children of their own.

― Andrew (enneff), Friday, 21 April 2006 03:52 (twenty years ago)

I don't have kids but my family set-up is as follows
Dad-Big smoker+drinker, anti drugs.
Mum-Non-drinker, non-smoker, anti drugs.
Big Bro-Big smoker+drinker, pothead.
Big Sis- Big drinker, non-smoker, anti drugs
Me- Non drinker, big smoker till recently, pothead.

― Dingbat (dr lulu), Friday, 21 April 2006 04:42 (twenty years ago)

smoking pot in front of the kids --> pot no longer = rebelling --> kids get hooked on heroin --> gateway drug theory inadvertently confirmed

― yuengling participle (rotten03), Friday, 21 April 2006 16:10 (twenty years ago)

I remember the first time I made my paper-less Mom an apple bong. She was quite pleased.

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 21 April 2006 16:14 (twenty years ago)

rrrobyn to thread

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 21 April 2006 16:25 (twenty years ago)

rrrobyn's got kids? i'll have to ask her about that, tonight.

― the unbearable lightness of peeing (orion), Friday, 21 April 2006 16:27 (twenty years ago)

I think I have to say dud .

― Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Friday, 21 April 2006 16:28 (twenty years ago)

no rrrobyn doesn't have kids, but she has smoked with her parents, i think. or one of her parents, at least.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 21 April 2006 16:30 (twenty years ago)

i expect more specificity from you, jaymc.

― the unbearable lightness of peeing (orion), Friday, 21 April 2006 16:34 (twenty years ago)

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