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Why do people like to talk about their participation in illegal activities on public messageboards? I've never really understood the rationale behind that, particularly since the conversations are being archived.

― Dan (Everybody's Got Something To Hide) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

(Obviously influenced by Defend the Indefensible: Cocaine)

― Dan (Curious) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

roffle

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

The cops aren't gonna bother tracking down 50+ people from various countries saying they took coke in a bar a few times.

― chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

sodomy is legal in new york state.

― phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

it's just jealously. plain and simple.

― Wiggy (Wiggy), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

The cocaine thread makes more sense to me than Have You Ever Shit Your Pants? .

Though, come to think of it, both threads could be connected.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

i never thought i'd say this, but

YSI?

― harry galveston (gareth), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

The cops aren't gonna bother tracking down 50+ people from various countries saying they took coke in a bar a few times.

Granted, but that still doesn't make me think that talking about your drug use on a publicly-accessible archived forum is a particularly good idea.

― Dan (Just Saying) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

yeah and what's with people who post under their real name?

― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

haa

― sleep (sleep), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

yeah and what's with people who post under their real name?

http://www.sportsevents.net/events/images/jerry_seinfeld.jpg

― Dan (What's With Spurious Points Completely Orthoganol To The Thread Topic?) Per, Friday, 21 April 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

I MEAN WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH THAT

― stockholm cindy: comedy vigilante (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

My hopes for a Senate seat will be dashed if the body politic ever reads the shit(ting) I've confessed to.

― andy --, Friday, 21 April 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

Actually a lot of the time I'm jealous of people who'll talk openly (and in WWW public, and in archive) about stuff like that -- it'd be so relaxing to have nothing to hide / happily give up any future aspirations to public office / be comfortable enough in your life and path that you don't think people could potentially find out about anything you did in a manner that would actually have negative consequences for you.

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think anyone's going to get busted anytime soon because of things they do on ILX (unless of course they ask Mickey for YSIs, ha) (sorry Mickey, it's unfair to use you for a cheap joke but that's all I have) but I do wonder about how messageboards grant people a sense of anonymity/privacy that's almost wholly misleading and artificial, particularly since our words are being indexed by various global search engines and cases are popping up in countries like China where folks are being jailed because of things the government has pulled up about them off of the Internet. Furthermore, given that the US is heading down the "I'll give up my freedom for security" path at the moment, I wonder if people think about these things before giving details about their lives.

― Dan (No Political Career For Any Of Us) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

Dan (What's With Spurious Points Completely Orthoganol To The Thread Topic?) Perry

Orthoganol? Ain't that some kinda pesticide?

― Aimless (Aimless), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

i guess drugs are so ubiquitous that one forgets that they're illegal

― phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

plus, you can't get arrested for talking having done drugs. not to mention the fact that law enforcement agencies aren't going to waste resources to nab some guys who did a few lines last weekend. now if you talk about how much weight you're DEALING, well...

― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

I have enormous admiration for Remy's ability to do this.

― Laura H. (laurah), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

talking about something in public introduces a strongly defensible point for deniability, for just the reasons this thread was started. I mean who in their right mind would do that? Confess all you want as long as you're not in police custody. Prior to arrest, it's all between you and the 1st & 5th.

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

and I haven't done anything GW hasn't done too, except the rehab and Jesus part, so whatever with this no political career bullshit

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

XXP: It certainly helps if you're not concerned about what your audience will think of you or your story when you're done. Varies by both audience and story, of course. Also helps if you can count on them not to use it against you in future even if they themselves don't disapprove.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

I just logout whenever i want to admit to a few homicides on ilx.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

"Well, yes, I did confess online to having bum sex whilst on acid. I think the voting public has a right to know! I've nothing to hide... do you, Senator?"

(Crowd roars and hoots, debate opponent looks flustered)

― andy --, Friday, 21 April 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Dudes, the worry isn't that the cops will come after you -- it's just that somewhere, down the line, it might wind up screwing you in less dramatic ways. I suppose the big one would be that, say, your career goes well, and 20 years from now you find yourself with a shot at some job important enough that they check up on your background. (Which isn't nearly as rare as it seems and will presumably get less and less rare.) It's hard to think in those terms, and your quality of life could get seriously bogged down if you seriously tried to always comport yourself like a politician just in case you needed that clean record for something, but ... there are ways in which stuff like this can come back and bite.

The good news = I think we might see a generational thing where having done something idiotic on the internet becomes pretty much standard. (I was also going to say that maybe Bush is a good example of increasing "youthful indiscretion" tolerance, but I don't think he'd have gotten that free pass if he wasn't a Bush -- if he was just some random alcoholic dude from Texas, I'd like to think people would have been downright frightened.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

He frightens me.

― Aimless (Aimless), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's hilarious that anyone here is honestly thinking they might run for "public office" someday. You're not going to get to be Sting, either. Sheesh.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Why you break heart :(

― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

im going to be the first asian cum-guzzling coke-addict senator of new york

― phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

none shall block my accession to Secretary of Symbolism

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

You guys ever try the H292 amino? Try a shot of that with some TR-660, and HOOOO, you'll knock that fucker into tomorrow! Damn!

― Barry Bonds --, Friday, 21 April 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

good thing you qualified that with "asian" and "of new york".

― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, public-office-wise my wild fear is more that a member of my family might one day do so and turn me into the Roger Clinton of the future.

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

yes because otherwise, woo hee, would he look like a horse's ass. xpost

― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

imagine if 20 years from now a prospective employer found out you once averaged one dick joke per hour!! HELLO SIGNING BONUS

xpost yes ally that's EXACTLY what I was driving at you clever minx.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

no, no, you aren't getting it, I was just pointing out that you shouldn't be here anymore.

― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

tears are falling

― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, drugs are the least of it. Some of you guys' music choices would set your ceiling at like, assistant lieutenant property assessor.

"Councilwoman? With your permission I'd like to play the gallery a recording you called 'The best thing I've heard coming from a car speaker, ever'"

*cue Dungen*

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

Hahaha that still plays to the original thread question though!

Are your conversations on messageboards knowingly affected at all by the distinction between public and private? Why (not)?

― Dan (Oh Noes!) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 21 April 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

people talk about doing coke because they like people to know they did it. i have a neighbor who will stop by once in awhile and every single time she drops by, she goes on about some party she was at. i learn nothing about the party or anyone she met, but i sure as hell learn about how much cocaine she did! i mean if you're gonna do it, just do it, don't give me the boring fucking details!

― gear (gear), Friday, 21 April 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

oh because we're all so eager to impress you, gear.

― phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 21 April 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

does cocaine make people defensive?

― gear (gear), Friday, 21 April 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

i'm of course generalizing for effect, but many people in fact do discuss their cocaine use to impress others or something. i wouldn't suggest anyone on ilx is doing such a thing.

― gear (gear), Friday, 21 April 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

some people it makes it hard to get an erection - but i don't want to make any more dick jokes.

― phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 21 April 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

I saw a thread about coke and thought 'Hell yeah, I want to join in with the cool drugs kids!' Really.

― chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Friday, 21 April 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

I get the exact opposite impression, "gear", that nobody wants to admit they're doing it because then they'd have to share. Uniquely among drugs, it makes people get secretive and selfish.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 21 April 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

don't scare quote me

― gear (gear), Friday, 21 April 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

haha sorry - your name is funny on this thread.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 21 April 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

anyway, i think cocaine should be completely legal. imagine a world where you could walk into a bar in a city, go up to someone, ask for cocaine, and they'd give it to you for a small fee.

― gear (gear), Friday, 21 April 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

Politically, I wonder if having a blemish-free background is more important than having a brilliant strategist or an effective response plan.

Besides, with all the mudslinging and skullduggery in politics, how important is the "nothing to hide" factor in running for public office?

― Kitten Bucket (kittenbucket), Friday, 21 April 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

I really don't see why pretty much any illegal drug is not legal and regulated and taxed but that's just me.

― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 21 April 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

gear and ally otm x1000

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 21 April 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

i've always been curious about the potential drop in the crime rate if drugs were legalized, and which political party the cocaine lobby would give the most money to.

― gear (gear), Friday, 21 April 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

doncha think that we've entered an age and time where the tide has turned and there are more people who will run for a public who have used or tried drugs than those who have not? Poor grammer but you get my meaning.

― Wiggy (Wiggy), Friday, 21 April 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

public office that is

― Wiggy (Wiggy), Friday, 21 April 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/steve_bell/2005/10/05/blldcaa.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 21 April 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

Why is crime glamorous? It's soooo uncool.

― Boring Someone in Some Dark Cafe (noodle vague), Friday, 21 April 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

no ally that's not just you, that's TOTALLY 100% otm

ffs, you guys (um "you guys" = govts etc) you are NOT gonna be able to control this thing, ok? too fucking late, mate. people want their kicks. hell, people NEED their kicks bc you guys fucked the world up so much. and people will go to any length to get their kicks. ok? shit will get grown, manufactured, smuggled in, whatever. might as well make it legal, import it, tax it, use the tax ££ to fund specifically-derived healthcare necessities - same as we do with tobacco and booze, yes? is that not why it now costs about £5 or something for a packet of cigarettes (and so it should cost that much, why should the rest of us pay to look after you when you chose to smoke in the first place)? how come it applies to cigarettes but not to speed?

if sth can't get grown/made in the country it's being sold in it's gonna get smuggled in, in (literally as well as figuratively) shitty ways, exploiting and endangering THE most vulnerable people - on supply end as well as demand end - and creating a whole mess of needs of people who're all fucked up bc of the way the drug supply system has to operate and every taxpayer in the country - whether they do illegal drugs or no - ends up paying for it. i'm not suggesting we quit funding clinics for heroin addiction or whatever, but can we get the people who benefit from it to contribute to sorting out the problems it causes please? ffs, are we a grownup society or no? (...) can we just bring this out into the open and be honest about THE WAY IT IS please? people are GOING TO spend £20 on a baggie of weed or smack, £50 on a gram of coke or whatever, it's gonna happen, can we just divert a portion of that so instead of lining the pockets of some of the most conscience-free fuckers in the planet, it goes to helping solve the problems that some drugs will inevitably bring about in some individuals?

ARGH.

also pls to note i am not saying DRUGS ARE EVIL, i am saying the legal situation wrt most of them is completely fucking insane, irrational, unhelpful, head-in-sand reactionary STUPID.

also pls to note i am a bit drunked.

xxxxxxpost.

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 21 April 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

for some reason I expected this thread to be about Iraq war stories.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 April 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

Dan I have thought about this before a lot, especially when D4rn1e113 took off for awhile. I mean if anyone here somehow because suddenly like Sting-level famous, well, essentially my question is who gets the royalties?

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 21 April 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

orthogonal - great word. how mny sides does an orthogon have?

In my not-quite-drunkenness I read "and I haven't done anything GW hasn't done too, except the rehab and Jesus part" as referring to me and I had a wee WTF moment to myself. I also thought "ever try the H292 amino?" was directed to me and got more confused.

As far as I can recall I've never confessed to anything illegal on the Internet, though I have a tendency to post a lot of crap i don't remember when I'm as drunk as I am right now so for all I know I've confessed to a load of stuff I didn't even do like that guy on the Hhouse of Obsessive Compulsives programme.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 21 April 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

career paths my ilx life has forever crossed out:

pope
president
reclusive novelist
mob boss
author of biography exposing any of the above
any position at disney

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 21 April 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

Possibly it is some kind of reverse voyeurism? Or lots of lapsed Catholics who want to confess? Or an inner need to tell someone about (specify illegal act here) but not be judged by one's immediate family and friends?

Regardless, if elective office is one's goal in life, most of us are doomed already from past actions (legal or illegal, somebody somewhere knows about it and will be willing to call you immoral for the right price. Of course if you are willing to accept Jesus and make the whole thing into a virtue tale, that seems to work for a large part of the public. Thus my newest ambition: to become a drug addled stripper/hooker turned Ambassador to Iceland. I'm a little worried about the drugs, stripping, hooking, and Jesus part, though).

― Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Saturday, 22 April 2006 03:52 (nineteen years ago)

xpost -- ortho sides, obviously, which is one less than nomble.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 22 April 2006 05:50 (nineteen years ago)

There are things I'm reluctant to post on ILX even though I don't use my real name here. I'm not entirely sure why - I'm happy to tell my friends about stuff I get up to, in private, after all. Moreover, there's a more specialist messageboard I use where I'm rather more open about stuff I wouldn't post here, and on there I have a picture of myself as my avatar. Which is the majority behaviour there, after all, but only just.

(it's also non-indexed, I belive. there was a very interesting thread there yesterday, coincidentally, about people who feel they can't post a picture of themselves on that site, and why)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Saturday, 22 April 2006 06:57 (nineteen years ago)

Did you type all that with your nose?

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 22 April 2006 09:00 (nineteen years ago)

:-D

My hands are free right now, in case you were wondering!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Saturday, 22 April 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

:-)

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 22 April 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

Never deny a hippie and their faith for numerology.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 1 May 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

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