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a great film.

― ethan, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

NO. i went to see Wall Street when i was, what 12 or something, and it was so bad that i said i wasn't going to go to the cinema again for 10 years. and i didn't. i have only been to the cinema once since then, and that was to see a rubbish japanese animation in notting hell last year.

― gareth, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

surely you cannot be expected to understand the complex moral and ethical subtleties of such a film when you are twelve?!

― ethan, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the complex moral and ethical subtleties of such a film when you are twelve

Considering that's been Oliver Stone's mental age for about 25 years...

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

surely you cannot be expected to understand the complex moral and ethical subtleties of such a film when you are twelve?!

Why not? Why are people so down on 12 year olds?

― N., Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

well i think something like the labor issues of the film, the 'victimless' nature of white-collar crime, production vs. non- production, etc, would be a bit hard for a nonworking pre-adolescent to grasp.

― ethan, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

also ned your oliver stone criticism is funny coming from a TOLKIEN FAN.

― ethan, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

tolkien fan = 13 forevah; stone = 12 forevah; wall street = rubbish forevah

to quote alex in nyc RAISE YOUR STANDARDS ETHAN!! (what is good about it?)

― mark s, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm with Ethan, but I haven't seen it since before I was 21 (I know cuz that's when my list starts), so I can't remember anything to say about it.

― Josh, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

as i understand the nature of number, 12 = 21 (this means ethan = 91 = even older than me HAH!)

― mark s, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well I saw it after I went to college, so there is a good change I saw it at 19. HAH.

There is also the chance that I saw it at 20 = 02 by mark s mentalist logick.

― Josh, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

in that case the labor issues of the film, the 'victimless' nature of white-collar crime, production vs. non- production, etc, were all surely too hard for you to grasp, as a non- working thumb-sucking pre-everything, pretty much?¿

― mark s, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

nb BY MENTALIST LOGIC

― Josh, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You're on IL* now, the normal universal laws do not apply here.

― DG, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Michael Douglas has never been able to act his way out of a box of pop tarts, so I say dud.

― Nicole, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I liked 'The Game' and 'Wonder Boys' too :P.

― Josh, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

yeah the game was okay despite being directed by the worst auteur in human history. falling down was good too, what on earth is wrong with michael douglas?

― ethan, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I liked 'The Game' and 'Wonder Boys' too

The acid test is whether or not you like The Jewel of the Nile

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

oh man i totally forgot about those indiana jones rip-offs he was in, those were great!

― ethan, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Though I am totally about solidarity with Ethan on Wall Street, I'm afraid Falling Down was not so hot. It had moments, but it also kind of bit. I don't blame Douglas.

― Josh, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Surely the point about Wall Street is that it's one of those films whose popularity rests on reading it against the filmmaker's presumed intentions. As in: most Wall Street fans - like the characters in the Boiler Room - want to be Gordon Gecko. He is the hero of the piece, and not just in a Richard III fascinating villain way. The other classically misread film is Taxi Driver: all these rappers they visit on Cribs have Travis Bickle on the wall, blithely ignoring the fact that he's clearly portrayed in the film as a geek and an inadequate on all fronts.

― Mark Morris, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

scarface, you forgot scarface.

― ethan, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Michael Douglas is always good even when coasting (cf. A Perfect Murder, that recent one where he played a psychologist who's daughter is kidnapped). Wall Street is however not great, altho' also not worth dissing too hard either. Its worst crime is probably making Danyl Hannah look unattractive.

― Jeff W, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've wanted to smack Michael Douglas in the face ever since "Basic Instinct". I really like "The Jewel Of The Nile", however.

― Dan Perry, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've never been to Ayres Rock but it reminds me of Michael Douglas face.

― Ronan, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.nova-online.de/magazin/rezension/bilder/0301/ringelogo.jpg

― Dada, Sunday, 7 December 2003 04:31 (twenty-two years ago)

five years pass...

After weeks of rumors, 20th Century Fox has set Oliver Stone to return as helmer of the sequel to his 1987 hit "Wall Street." Shia LaBeouf is also in the mix for "Wall Street 2."

LaBeouf is negotiating to join Michael Douglas, who won an Oscar for his portrayal of Gordon Gekko in the original pic. The sequel will once again involve a young Wall Street trader, and the recent economic meltdown spurred by rampant greed and corruption will fit prominently into the plot.

Allan Loeb will write the script. Edward R. Pressman is back as producer.[

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118002934.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 04:47 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

Frank Langella will join the cast of "Wall Street 2: Money Never Sleeps," the Oliver Stone-directed sequel for 20th Century Fox.

Langella is in talks to play Lewis Zabel, an old-time broker who mentors LaBeouf's character, a young Wall Street broker. http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118007075.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

― James Mitchell, Monday, 10 August 2009 11:20 (sixteen years ago)

"Money Never Sleeps"

or "Greed Always Wants a Ham Sandwich."

― Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 August 2009 12:00 (sixteen years ago)

five months pass...

The Return of Gordon Gekko

― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 14 January 2010 20:58 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

http://www.kurzweilai.net/this-is-what-wall-streets-terrifying-robot-invasion-looks-like

― Sweet Yin Yang ☯ (Latham Green), Friday, 10 August 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

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