Hen Parties and Stag Parties - the most embarrassing aspect of our culture

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I hate seeing hen and stag parties out and about. They make me cringe. Do you hate them too?

MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 23 April 2006 00:53 (twenty years ago)

There was a gang of girls on a hen night on the bus tonight. They all had sashes from thr party shop saying 'Hen Party' apart from the bride who had 'Bride' (where L plates or a plastic tiara would be a tacky but more indicative identifier). One of the party was carrying an inflatable 2ft penis. They were all very loud and obnoxious as the journey progressed and I was getting more and more annoyed with them as I wished they'd just (ideally) get off the bus or (contigently) pipe down a bit. Am I being a hopeless prude? Do I Hate Fun? I don;t know. I was speaking to these 2 Algerian guys after the girls did disembark and they concurred with me that nothing of the kind happened in Algeria and that said country was a better place for it.

MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 23 April 2006 00:58 (twenty years ago)

have you considered moving to algeria?

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 23 April 2006 01:03 (twenty years ago)

no I don't think that's the answer RJG but at the same time when I was in Prague a couple of years ago seeing signs saying "No English Stag Parties" did make me feel a little ashamed.

MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 23 April 2006 01:10 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure there is another answer sorry

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 23 April 2006 01:13 (twenty years ago)

ahh yeah ive seen those signs "no stag parties". i guess now i know what those are

phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 23 April 2006 01:23 (twenty years ago)

My first night ever in London, my girlfriends and I ran into a bunch of boys out for a stag night.

UK Boys: should we go to a strip club?
US Girls: you have to!!!

which was sort of funny since 3 of us had women's studies minors.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Sunday, 23 April 2006 01:25 (twenty years ago)

Stag Phap??

timmy tannin (pompous), Sunday, 23 April 2006 01:26 (twenty years ago)

that was 10 years ago, I wonder if the groom is still married.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Sunday, 23 April 2006 01:27 (twenty years ago)

I think the thing that freaks me out the worst about stag & hen parties is the underlying tone of "enjoy your final fleeting hours of liberty before you settle into the most boring, vanilla, lights-out, babymaking sex you could possibly imagine".

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Sunday, 23 April 2006 01:53 (twenty years ago)

yes, Tantrum you are so OTM!

MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 23 April 2006 01:56 (twenty years ago)

Stockholm train station 1989, huge group of extrememly pissed young women pass by, one wearing a sandwich board with Swedish text on it.
Me:Hey what's the sign say?
One of them: FIVE FUCKS FOR 10 KRONER!!
All of them: YAAAAAAAAY!!
An early lesson for me that drunken idiots are to be found all over the world, not just at home.

dr lulu (dr lulu), Sunday, 23 April 2006 02:18 (twenty years ago)

I don't know. I went on a hen weekend a couple of months ago to the Isle of Arran, and while it was fairly obvious that we were a hen weekend (because we were 16 women all together, many of whom were good friends who had not seen each other for a long time, and we were therefore a centre of noise in enclosed spaces), we kept our drinking to the privacy of our holiday cottage and didn't inflict ourselves on the local populace too much, except to spend money in shops that seemed delighted with our custom.

However, we did play a game on the Saturday night where the bride had to answer questions, and there were forfeits if she got the answers wrong. These forfeits were from a box of cards called Hen Night Forfeits, and they all said things like "use three condoms by the end of the night" and "drink three shots in three different bars" and so on. We were very pleased not to be one of those hen parties.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Sunday, 23 April 2006 08:23 (twenty years ago)

hen/stag nights = bachelor/bachelorette parties?

phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 23 April 2006 08:25 (twenty years ago)

yes

anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 23 April 2006 08:45 (twenty years ago)

As a slight twist on this, I was best man at my (male, obv) best friends wedding. I had to organise the bucks night, which I thought was just going to be a bunch of mostly blokes having beers. Said friend explicity said "NO STRIPPERS OR STRIP CLUBS". Of course, as I'm organising this, one of his close male friends insists there's to be a trip to a tabletop dancing establishment. I insisted that wasn't what D wanted, and I was the best man but being er, female, no one was listening to me :/

I went back to D and told him what the others wanted. He threw a hissy and the whole thing got cancelled. God bless him. We ended up just having quiet drinks somewhere a few days beforehand.

Better than what my brother did - he got arsefaced 2 days before his wedding and at one point very late decided he wanted to footy-tackle a bunch of trees. After about 3 trees, one fought back and he broke his arm. He ended up having a wedding, and a honeymoon, in a big plastic-coated cast.

LEARN YE WELL, LADS.

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 23 April 2006 08:49 (twenty years ago)

Stag is used in America but hen never is. Oddly, neither is 'doe'.

suzy (suzy), Sunday, 23 April 2006 10:13 (twenty years ago)

I can think of dozens of aspects of our culture more embarrassing than this. Radio phone-ins on animal experimentation for a start. People getting pissed = Classic. Boys gang going to lapdancing club = Dud.

the underlying tone of "enjoy your final fleeting hours of liberty before you settle into the most boring, vanilla, lights-out, babymaking sex you could possibly imagine"

There are sound reasons for that tone.

Ricky Nadir (noodle vague), Sunday, 23 April 2006 10:43 (twenty years ago)

There are sound reasons for that tone.

Meaning what? That you're supposed to become boring after you get married? I fucking well hope not.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Sunday, 23 April 2006 15:37 (twenty years ago)

There was a very drunken hen party group on the 19:45 Victoria to Epsom train on Friday night, all with matching t-shirts and comedy northern accents. No idea where they were heading, but they were still on board when I got off at Wandsworth.

When they got on you could see everyone else on the train thinking "don't stand next to me don't stand next to me don't stand next to me".

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Monday, 24 April 2006 07:29 (twenty years ago)

I had a 'stag' night, that basically involved a curry, ten-pin bowling, and a night club, with plenty of drink, all with friends and band members of the band (who by the way, kicked me out of the band while I was away on honeymoon, but that's rock and roll..)...

Anyhow, I asked what the other side was like..

"We all get together for a Shower"
"Wow! Sounds great!"
"No, it's nothing like your mental picture."

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 24 April 2006 09:22 (twenty years ago)

i've never been on one but I went on a cancelled stag do, in barcelona as we'd already booked the tickets but the wedding was cancelled.

it was nothing too heavy, just like a normal night out with friends. nice city btw.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 24 April 2006 09:32 (twenty years ago)

I thought this was going to be a Dom Passantino thread.

i think hen/stag parties are not really different from other 'parties'.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 24 April 2006 09:33 (twenty years ago)

My mum recently remarked how odd she found it that her children always seemed to be going to stag and hen dos. How in her day they were seen as very infra-dig etc and how it was odd to find a trend filtering up rather than down the classes. I started arguing with her on the latter point but I guess she's at least right that middle class people didn't used to have such things. Or maybe they just didn't call them "hen" and "stag".

And no one used to have whole weekends of it, I don't think. Getting pissed in the pub one night and being tied to a lamp-post used to be the high watermark of jinx.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 24 April 2006 09:40 (twenty years ago)

i think the phrase "infra-dig" is awesome.

i dread going to any stag night, or having my own. or rather, i resent the idea that i cant organise it. i lpan to organise, and tend to view it as an opportunity to do something really nice.

in my mind, this takes the shape of inviting a bunch of my friends (girls and boys) to a secluded beach somewhere and dancing to techno on the beach, whilst drinking Landlord or equivalent.

ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 24 April 2006 12:33 (twenty years ago)

it is one of the things imported from the Isles or US (not sure where they originally come from) that I dislike and disapprove out of those that have infiltrated the average Spaniard habits in the last 10 years.

olenska (olenska), Monday, 24 April 2006 13:09 (twenty years ago)

a secluded beach somewhere and dancing to techno on the beach, whilst drinking Landlord

Cool. Can I come?

(OFF TOPIC) My friends and I have started a guerrila offshoot of CAMRA, called ACID. This stands for Assembly for Cask In Dance.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Monday, 24 April 2006 13:13 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

I have to co-organise a hen night. It's in a couple of connected cottages near Bath. So far I have done not much to contribute. My co-organiser has organised eating, spa, pole dancing, two women who have not spoken for 5 years but have agreed to put up with each other, and stupid t-shirts.

I have to come up with some stupid games and need something less run of the mill than what we have so far. Can be sex-obsessed, but don't have to be. So far my co-organiser has listed:

Mr & Mrs quiz pre dinner – Does P**** really know this man???
My perfect man – during dinner (I have no idea what this game is)
Truth/dare – after dinner
Space hopper racing

Know any games that are actually proper fun and won't be the 15th time for everyone?

ljubljana, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 21:43 (seventeen years ago)

Truth/dare after alcohol

J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 21:44 (seventeen years ago)

works for some!!!

J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 21:45 (seventeen years ago)

All of it will be after alcohol, except the spa in case anyone drowns.

ljubljana, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 21:45 (seventeen years ago)

we were doing one of these for a friend of ours. he *somehow* got control of the agenda and tricked us into ending up at a tranny bar/restaurant watching the waitstaff karaoke. best script flipping ever, tho some midwesterners were a bit unnerved.

low ranking monkeys don't look at high ranking monkeys (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 21:55 (seventeen years ago)

Hmmm, tranny bar. The bride is a down-to-earth Northern lass. She may well get control of the agenda but is more likely to lead us to a club that was last refurbished in the 80s and boasts the pride of the West Country.

ljubljana, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:04 (seventeen years ago)

Need stuff for the evening in. Dice games, question games, physical games, sex-related games, etc etc etc etc. Bonus points if they don't set the ex-friends off again

ljubljana, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:06 (seventeen years ago)

I'm 36 for Christ's sakes

ljubljana, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:06 (seventeen years ago)

I am smiling warmly at the term "hen" being used for these. It seems so domestic and nice.

Peter Cetera (Euler), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:07 (seventeen years ago)

Someone who is good at posting images may want to dispel this notion of Euler's.

ljubljana, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:08 (seventeen years ago)

hah! I get that it's not domestic and nice, but the term "hen" makes it sound that way, in contrast to "bachelorette party". "Hen" sounds down-on-the-farm, sweet. Stag by contrast sounds rather nasty, and thus more in line with reality.

I have to attend a stag party in two weeks, and the best man seems to have no clue what to do. So I guess I'll have to step up. The last time I did this, I tried to hire a stripper dressed like a nurse, because the groom-to-be was marrying a nurse. When she arrived, the groom-to-be freaked out, and sent her away, along with our money. And this a month after graduation, during which, for four years, he bragged repeatedly about his sexual appetites.

Peter Cetera (Euler), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:23 (seventeen years ago)

Hen parties are more likely to involve sulks, people feeling left out, flouncing, and truly poor cocktails.

ljubljana, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:26 (seventeen years ago)

dressed like a nurse, because the groom-to-be was marrying a nurse.

whoa. a stripper that somehow invoked his mom wasnt available?

low ranking monkeys don't look at high ranking monkeys (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:28 (seventeen years ago)

(it is funny tho)

low ranking monkeys don't look at high ranking monkeys (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:29 (seventeen years ago)

Stupid games, stupid games, please, going to bed now, please to have inspired me in the morning

ljubljana, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:32 (seventeen years ago)

I dunno, charades? Wii? Rock Band?

Peter Cetera (Euler), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:41 (seventeen years ago)

"who can bring the most outlandish sex toy"

J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:47 (seventeen years ago)

cribbage. with real cribs

low ranking monkeys don't look at high ranking monkeys (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:51 (seventeen years ago)

OK, I'm gritting my teeth, but Louis, the 'most outlandish sex toy' actually does sound plausible.

None of us are kitted up with the requisite Wii gear.

ljubljana, Thursday, 2 October 2008 05:53 (seventeen years ago)

Just uh google "Parlour games" and browse for a bit....

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Thursday, 2 October 2008 11:32 (seventeen years ago)

A lube tasting, with all the silly fruity ones.

Vampire romances depend on me (Laurel), Thursday, 2 October 2008 14:38 (seventeen years ago)

that's disgusting.

ian, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:01 (seventeen years ago)

Ian, yes it is, but Laurel, that would actually work. Thanks, officially added to the programme.

ljubljana, Friday, 3 October 2008 19:43 (seventeen years ago)

get all women to plaster-cast their man's erect pecker, and have a guessing-game

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 19:45 (seventeen years ago)

maybe photograph

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 19:45 (seventeen years ago)

isn't hen party simply another term for hen fap?

ian, Friday, 3 October 2008 19:46 (seventeen years ago)

It's a hen fec (Fancy Eighteen Cocktails?)

ljubljana, Friday, 3 October 2008 20:18 (seventeen years ago)

bring a spiked leather dog lead and collar to proceedings and attempt to trap a man

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 20:21 (seventeen years ago)

then let bacchic instinct take over

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 20:21 (seventeen years ago)

is that how you english blokes like it, eh?

ian, Friday, 3 October 2008 20:30 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Mythology/Images/PentheusBacchae.jpg

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 20:38 (seventeen years ago)


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