― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:06 (nineteen years ago)
― Alone, Jealous and SSRI'd (kate), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:09 (nineteen years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:11 (nineteen years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:13 (nineteen years ago)
― Alone, Jealous and SSRI'd (kate), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:15 (nineteen years ago)
― stet (stet), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:17 (nineteen years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:19 (nineteen years ago)
Meet one actual Catholic.
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:20 (nineteen years ago)
Eucharist applies to the actual bits on the buffet too though right?
― NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:21 (nineteen years ago)
― Alone, Jealous and SSRI'd (kate), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:23 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:58 (nineteen years ago)
― stet (stet), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:03 (nineteen years ago)
― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:27 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.kiasma.fi/site/img/kwpop/kuvat/N0088200.jpg
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 12:16 (nineteen years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)
"As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him."
so, yep, you're welcome.
― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)
― kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)
They've had theological scraps around extenuating circumstances, though, like with that girl who was allergic to gluten. But the question there was a lot more arcane (and stupid), revolving around whether God required there to be gluten in the wafer for transsubstantiation to happen. Most of us would guess that God wasn't too particular about the recipe, and a gluten-free wafer could become Christ just as nicely.
My mother once made bread that was used in communion. At a Protestant church, naturally. But she was raised Orthodox, so she should technically have been uncomfortable with that. Further proof of the above: Catholics ostensibly believe in transsubstantiation, but I doubt many believe it in a concrete physical sense. They believe that the wafer is Christ in the same metaphysical sense that they believe there doesn't have to be a difference between the numbers 1 and 3. (That's my snarky theological joke for the day: Christians shouldn't use the term "monotheistic," since the Trinity doesn't believe in any difference between "mono" and "poly!")
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)
― AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)
― tehresa (tehresa), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)
1. Christian2. Vegan
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)
― The Boy Who Cried YSI? (Freud Junior), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)
Er, the ethical motivation for my vegetarianism (and for a lot of people I know) is that it's not wrong to kill animals (they kill each other, don't they), but that the torture of animals caused by mass meat/dairy/egg/fur/etc production is wrong. Otherwise it'd be okay to eat eggs and drink milk, because the animals producing them don't die in the act.
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)
― JW (ex machina), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)
― The Boy Who Cried YSI? (Freud Junior), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)
I wasn't mocking anything but the original question. I thought our explanation was obvious.
― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)
"I don't mind killing, it's the MURDER that really gets to me."
― Dan (Split That Hair!) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)
― John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)
― John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)
Way to totally miss Tuomas' point, Dan. He said (paraphrased) "I don't mind killing, it's the TORTURE that really gets to me."
― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 21:31 (nineteen years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)
the thing is, the clip is shown with no context or anything...then is followed by a plea to visit the ASPCA website. WTF? i don't even think this was an ASPCA-approved bulletin, just someone trying to get attention for them. anyway, the whole thing left me feeling manipulated and grossed out. i did not want or need to see this. i feel mentally raped.
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)
― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)
I was not paraphrasing his position, I was pointing out that the position he was taking was not really removed or distinct in a useful way from the position he was objecting to.
― Dan (And Now I'm Splitting Hairs; Someone Stop Me Before I End Up In A Sex-Free , Wednesday, 3 May 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)
Qualification noted :)
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)