U2 frontman Bono is to edit **GUESS WHICH** newspaper for a day to highlight the issue of Aids in Africa

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U2 frontman Bono is to edit The Independent newspaper for a day to highlight the issue of Aids in Africa

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 5 May 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

why do right wing newspapers outsell left wing newspapers 10 to 1 in the uk?

-+-+-+++- (ooo), Friday, 5 May 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

he'll be taking meetings with distribution, driving ad sales, you name it.

the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Friday, 5 May 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

I hope the editor of the Independent will be able to front world famous rock band U2 for a day in return

Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Friday, 5 May 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

why do right wing newspapers outsell left wing newspapers 10 to 1 in the uk?

Stats?

Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Friday, 5 May 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

why do right wing newspapers outsell left wing newspapers 10 to 1 in the uk?

Because Britain is essentially a right-wing country. Also, football and smut.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 5 May 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

Left-wing newspaper sales:
Daily Mirror- 1,656,655
The Guardian- 382,931
The Independent- 266,075

Right-wing newspaper sales:
The Sun- 3,145,433
Daily Mail- 2,439,142
The Daily Telegraph- 901,123
Daily Express- 827,905

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 5 May 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

It still amazes me that so many people read the Express.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 5 May 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't think it was 10 to 1

Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Friday, 5 May 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

why do right wing newspapers outsell left wing newspapers 10 to 1 in the uk?
-- -+-+-+++- (-...), May 5th, 2006.

how we envy the US media and its famed liberal bias.

the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Friday, 5 May 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

Next week: Desmond Tutu to edit The Times to highlight the issue of sectarian violence in Ireland.

Here I Go, Higher! Higher! (kate), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

Dom, that's a loaded list. You're basically showing "tabloids outsell broadsheets", which is like saying there are more thick people than clever ones.

stet (stet), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

given that there's only one broadsheet...

the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

It's funny how Americans can even make "being liberal" a patriotic pissing contest.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

I would have thought that people who read the Independent are more likely to know about Aids in Africa than they ae to know about the front man of U2.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 6 May 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

It's funny how folks in Europe can twist a simple albeit slanted question like, "why do right wing newspapers outsell left wing newspapers 10 to 1 in the uk?," into a rhetorical pissing contest.

David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 6 May 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

yeah it was a simple innocent question David. right.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 6 May 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

It still amazes me that so many people read the Express.

-- Matt DC (runmd...), May 5

older people are concerned about asylum seekers, and, often forget the previous days headline. the daily express, luckily, addresses this problem area, by simply repeating its asylum seekers headline, every day.

charltonlido (gareth), Saturday, 6 May 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

not quite true, gareth: it alternates with "WAS DIANA MURDERED?", remember?

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 6 May 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

how we envy the US media and its famed liberal bias

in the US the readership of major center-left papers exceeds that of major center-right or right-wing papers (judged by conventional wisdom/endorsements). our problem is that people don't read newspapers.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 8 May 2006 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

"WAS DIANA MURDERED?": which was pretty much The Express' headline today (Mon)! "Truth About Diana Death" or somesuch. So, it's asylum seekers instore for tommorow then.
Saying that it's still a more sober read than the plain batshit bonkers Independant. Every embarrassing looney-left cliche made real.

David Orton (scarlet), Monday, 8 May 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

The Express actually has editorial policy to go with Diana news on a Monday, unless something REALLY big happens. I think they've gone with Diana on 11 of the past 12 Mondays.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 8 May 2006 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

The Sun- 3,145,433

it's teh titties, no?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:15 (nineteen years ago)

Next.... Germaine Greer is to edit The Sun newspaper for a day to highlight the issue of sexual exploitation in the media.

stevo (stevo), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Does she get em out?

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

Scotland isn't essentially a right-wing country. We've only got one Tory MP, while the Daily Record (apart from Paul Stokes) and certainly the Herald are left of centre. The Scotsman became right wing and anti-devolution under Andrew Neil, but I think it's settling into the middle ground now.

Stew (stew s), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

it's the big day.

the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 07:59 (nineteen years ago)

So far I have noticed that there are a lot of music advertisments that wouldn't normally be there.

Haven't actually read any of it.

There is a story that was in yesterday's, about global warming's effect on Africa.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:03 (nineteen years ago)

Wow he really is a twat. I mean we knew before, but really he really really is.

Newsnight last night filmed their afternoon conference. "Not enough milk in my tea. You're fired hahahahaha only joking I make millions a day."

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:04 (nineteen years ago)

nice to have another thread about Bono being a twat/doing something in the media. it's been almost three weeks now.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:07 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i saw newsnight. i don't want to hammer a point home, but what's with the shades, bono?

the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:11 (nineteen years ago)

He has succesfully got 35p out of me today for AIDS or something. Can't be all bad.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:18 (nineteen years ago)

What would Africa do without him eh.

(Ok yes I hope they raise a ridiculous amount of money)

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:19 (nineteen years ago)

the indie is 70p?

the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:20 (nineteen years ago)

It will be a lot of money.

It is good that they are bringing up G8 matters again, in the form of a snakes and ladders type game.

I was thinking latley that I might as well wear Amnesty and CND t-shirts, because at least I would be making myself useful. I suppose the same applies to Bono. Better a useful twat than a useless twat, which is a fairly stark choice, but there we are. Maybe evwen better a useful twat than a useless non-twat.

He is a twat though.

Yes it is 70p, like the Guardian (which I also bought, for the dickie birds poster).

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:23 (nineteen years ago)

one of those CND pendants would be good on you too, PJ.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:26 (nineteen years ago)

i was wearing a cnd badge in 2001.

the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:30 (nineteen years ago)

and 1984.

the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:31 (nineteen years ago)

You know, it took me a good few seconds to realise that you didn't mean pennant. I need to wake up properly.

No one would see the pendant though, apart from a very select group of lovely ladies.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:33 (nineteen years ago)

Intriguing.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:35 (nineteen years ago)

Disarming.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:49 (nineteen years ago)

i don't want to hammer a point home, but what's with the shades, bono?

"Very sensitive eyes to light"

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:15 (nineteen years ago)

hmmmm. i mean, on stage, you have quite a lot of lights on you! and he seems to wear really weak coloured lenses. yet he claims the need for privacy. i think it's just cos he's a nob.

the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

More knob than nob.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:23 (nineteen years ago)

nobo.

the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:23 (nineteen years ago)

Note that there's not a single voice from anyone anywhere in the paper suggesting that throwing money at the problem will make it go away. Also worth noting that RED is CAPPED UP every time it is mentioned, cos that's its funky trademarked design, see, even though no other brand name is ever treated the same way by the Indie.

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

I can just imagine him in conference, pondering whether ITV's rating being hit by the FA Cup final should be a nib in home or get shunted into business...

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

what is RED?

the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

OK, that's the shades explained. what about the earrings and stupid hair?

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

He is balding.

RED appears to be a way to carry on as normal, but raise a bit of money. But I still haven't read it properly.

http://www.americanexpressred.co.uk

http://www.redphoneattesco.com

Etc.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

It's all here, presumably only for today:

http://www.independent.co.uk/

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

Here:
http://www.joinred.com/

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

I'm Mr P. Hewson could make lots more money for poorly Africans if he signed over all of the future royalties from U2's back catalouge to his well-branded fund, seeing as how he doesn't really need any more cash.

But it's much easier to ask poor people to hand over their cash instead.

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

May I say without guile, I am as sick of messianic rock stars as the next man, woman and child. I am also tired of average work being given extra weight because it's attached to something with real gravitas, like the Aids emergency. So I truly try to tread carefully as I walk over the dreams of dignity under my feet in our work for the terrible beauty that is the continent of Africa. I'm used to the custard pies. I've even learnt to like the taste of them. But before you are tempted to let fly with your understandable invective, allow me to contextualise. Not for the sake of my vanity, but for the sake of people who are depending on you - the reader - to respond to the precariousness of their lives.

Picture this: a village where the disappearance of a whole generation has left children to bring up children (the Lord of the Flies syndrome).

I'm a witness to this. What can I do?


Twat twat twat twat twat twat twat twat

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

what about his negative points/the negative aspects of Bono doing this sort of thing?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

"So I truly try to tread carefully as I walk over the dreams of dignity under my feet in our work for the terrible beauty that is the continent of Africa"

http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=pseuds_corner&

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

i clicked that link and got a far stupider comment:

“Trashing a hotel room is purer art than anything I’ve recorded. Consciously or unconsciously, I am creating art to sell it. But I threw pizza all over a hotel room in Amsterdam last week. No one else saw it. Just me and the cleaner. The fact I paid for it means it’s pure.”
MIKE SKINNER OF THE STREETS

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

The Lord of the Flies syndrome?

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

African children, bereft of parents, are bullying the fat kid and hunting each other with pointed sticks.

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

but it's ok cos a navy guy is going to rescue them.

the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

Guardian's G2 is edited by a Bonobo today.

None of you are making a very good argument for Bono being a twat (I haven't read the Independant).

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

None of you are making a very good argument for Bono being a twat

1) He's actually called Paul.

2) He's a multi-millionaire who wants everyone else to put their hands in their pockets while he swims in a Scrooge McDuck-style moneypool.

3) The Joshua Tree

4) "May I say without guile, I am as sick of messianic rock stars as the next man, woman and child. I am also tired of average work being given extra weight because it's attached to something with real gravitas, like the Aids emergency. So I truly try to tread carefully as I walk over the dreams of dignity under my feet in our work for the terrible beauty that is the continent of Africa. I'm used to the custard pies. I've even learnt to like the taste of them. But before you are tempted to let fly with your understandable invective, allow me to contextualise. Not for the sake of my vanity, but for the sake of people who are depending on you - the reader - to respond to the precariousness of their lives."

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

5) christian rock

the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1778483,00.html

Supposing ... Bono's too annoying to save the world

Charlie Brooker
Friday May 19, 2006
The Guardian


Faced with a photo of a fly-encrusted child, the natural reaction should be to reach out and help. Instead, I start hearing Bono and Coldplay in my head. It's the most mind-mangling act of branding in history. I agree with what they are saying - I just wish THEY weren't saying it. How can I open my wallet while my fists are curled with rage?
Take Bono's special edition of the Independent. It's incredibly annoying. You're trapped in a windowless room with the usual tedious sods who apparently represent British culture, except suddenly they're wearing halos and pulling earnest expressions at you.

The front cover is by Damien Hirst. He's lobbed some clipart together in the shape of a cross. Across this runs a stark headline: "NO NEWS TODAY". You jerk with astonishment. No news? How can this be? Help us Bono! We don't understand! Then you spot the footnote: "Just 6,500 Africans died today as a result of a preventable, treatable disease." You nod sadly. But before you can truly contemplate this harrowing injustice, you note that Damien Hirst's name appears on the cover not once, but twice - and suddenly the footnote takes on an even more tragic dimension. Because all those people died, yet Hirst still walks the Earth. You turn the page, weeping.
Inside lurk about 2,000 adverts for the new Motorola RED phone. If you buy one, an Aids charity receives an initial payment of £10, followed by 5% of all further call revenues. This is clearly a good idea. But somehow, it's also annoying. For starters, the phone costs £149, of which £139 goes toward helping Motorola. Second, it's bright red and seems doomed to appeal to arseholes who want to add conspicuous compassion to their list of needless fashion accessories. I'm not just jabbering mindlessly on the phone in your train carriage - I'm saving fuckin' lives, OK?

Page 11: a piece of artwork by renegade graffiti artist Banksy, who has defaced a wall in Chalk Farm with a picture of a hotel maid. It's called Sweeping It Under the Carpet and "can be seen as a metaphor for the west's reluctance to tackle issues such as Aids in Africa" - or another example of Banksy's tireless self-promotion; take your pick. Banksy says the maid in question "cleaned my room in a Los Angeles motel ... she was quite a feisty lady". Presumably his next portrait will depict some poor minimum-wage sod, cleaning graffiti off a wall in Chalk Farm. Provided they're "feisty" enough to appeal to him.

On it goes, with one Bonoriffic chum after another: noted philanthropist Condoleezza Rice picks her top 10 tunes (including one by U2); Stella McCartney interviews Giorgio Armani, who has designed a pair of sunglasses for the RED charity range. These cost around £72 and will make you look like Bono: buy a 10 quid pair from Boots, bung the remaining £62 to an Aids charity and not only will you enjoy a warm philanthropic glow, no one's going to shout "wanker!" at you when you walk down the high street.

In summary: it's a worthy cause, rendered annoying - and that's annoying in itself. Bono genuinely cares, cares enough to risk ridicule, which is more than most people would do, myself included. It's just that, well it's bloody Bono, isn't it?


Paul Kelly (kelly), Friday, 19 May 2006 02:10 (nineteen years ago)

Reading that newspaper, I was struck by how much more enh=gaging Tony Blair is that Gordon Brown. Old hat, I know, but it is the first time it has struck me. They have a conference call with Bono.

I think the point of this RED thing is to get money out of people who are not yet "on side", hence the emphasis on very expensive goods and services that have intrinsic twat appeal. To get these people to cough up, it has to be appealing in a way that sticking your hand in your pocket is not. I suppose this is where Bono being a twat becomes quite useful.

Second, it's bright red and seems doomed to appeal to arseholes who want to add conspicuous compassion to their list of needless fashion accessories.

Surely we can see beyond the annoyance to the usefulness of getting £10 off an arsehole? And Brooker's article is just another example of one paper slagging off another, which is of interest only to the papers themselves.

I forgot to read Condi's top ten.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 19 May 2006 08:46 (nineteen years ago)

2) He's a multi-millionaire who wants everyone else to put their hands in their pockets while he swims in a Scrooge McDuck-style moneypool.

please produce the massive list of multi-millionaires who use their own money to help sort Africa out...tho of course they wouldn't be multi-millionaires anymore if they did do that. the real reason people think Bono is a twat is because he does more than them for these causes whilst having #1 hits (with rubbish songs) at the same time.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 19 May 2006 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

There's a long tradition of rich philanthropists. Bono's RED campaign is just the modern day equivalent of setting up the Bethnall Green Rectal Probe Club For Christian Boys.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

He's no Andrew Carnegie, that's for sure.

The Minimal Criminal (kate), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

And because he's pompous, humourless, smarmy, holier-than-thou and writes tedious, cliché-ridden editorials.

I still want him to raise the money though.

xxpost

beanz (beanz), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:24 (nineteen years ago)

I hope Bono makes it to the final week.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:26 (nineteen years ago)

There's a long tradition of rich philanthropists.

so who's carrying on this tradition today?

i don't think Bono is humourless. everything else seems correct but still easiest, laziest target ever.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:27 (nineteen years ago)

xpost is he in the Big Brother House?

(srsly: how d'you mean, final week?)

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:31 (nineteen years ago)

BB contestant Bonnie can't say her own name, every 4th attempt comes out as Bono.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:32 (nineteen years ago)

Bill Gates is a rich philanthropist, I suppose.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:35 (nineteen years ago)

brooker's piece is teh lolz.

Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:35 (nineteen years ago)

heed Anthony Miccio's advice about the Omega Code

late to the bloom to the er (latebloomer), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:37 (nineteen years ago)

If only Bono had Bill Gates's money...

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:37 (nineteen years ago)

easiest, laziest target ever

Hey it's a Bono thread after all...

beanz (beanz), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:39 (nineteen years ago)

that brooker piece is superb.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:43 (nineteen years ago)

it's ok - but beyond the observation 'it's annoying' there's the question of whether it's better for something to be annoying (Bono and co. doing stuff) or boring (Bono and co. not doing stuff, like most other rich fuckos, whether just selfish or afraid that it will come off as pompous/trite/uncool or worse prove ineffective, as throwing millions of pounds at the problems sometimes seems to be) in this case. but is there a third option?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:48 (nineteen years ago)

Why can't Bono just stick to shagging groupies and sucking Ajax up their nose like Rock Legends (especially at his stage of old-fartdom) are meant to?

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Friday, 19 May 2006 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

I just wish Bono would stick to what he knows and stay the fuck out of making music.

mei (mei), Saturday, 20 May 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Bono responds, poorly, to Brooker kicking:

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/bono/2006/05/by_bono.html

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

This is more hip-hop than indie. What does that mean? A certain generation who grew up wearing grey trenchcoats and crying into their beer about how daddy's bedsit wasn't big enough won't like this. But the generation that came through in the early 1990s under Soul II Soul, the Young Disciples and the British soul movement love it.

Wow, that's some seriously expired ReddiWhip he's sucking down.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

booker is superb as always. the guardian, though, is the newspaper that had Franz Ferdinand edit their second section so fuck them.

xpost - did you read the comment where someone attacks him for that?

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

I did, yes. Good to see.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

NBC's Bryan Williams is spending the week in Mali and Ghana with Il Bonono. He said something like this to Williams:

"I WISH I didn't have to do this. I WANT to return to my rock star life. I want the limos and martinis."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 23:48 (nineteen years ago)


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