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Lots of people say they like Peace... yet there is a lot of WARRE in the world. Could it be that people are only pretending when they say thay like peace, and actually it is kind of rubbish and nothing like as good as WARRE?

― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

Vicar, you prankster.

― the finefox (the pinefox), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

americans don't like peace, they like LIBERTY DAMMIT

― raw like sufjan (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

i.e. they only like peace when they're left in it

― raw like sufjan (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

Peace - don't try it.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

bwahahaha.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

It's awfully quiet in here... too quiet.

― Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

This WARRE? Or, this one? Because the second one is pretty good.

― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Vicar, you prankster.

not entirely... I have noticed that some groups say "We want peace" a lot, but they mean a very particular kind of peace. Their saying they want peace then becomes very loaded, and serves basically to make anyone who disagrees with them look like a cockfarmer. For good or ill both Irish Republicans and the Israeli establishment have done this at different points (just to make the key point that it's a game anyone can play, both state and non-state actors).

― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

War is good: it improves the vigour of the species thru unselective culling.

― Doktor Faustus (noodle vague), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Several years ago, my sister made the mistake of implying she was a pacifist at Thanksgiving dinner. Our younger cousin totally went off on her and started quoting from the bible. Peace loving hippies are going to hell! Oh no!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.journeywithjesus.net/BookNotes/Chris_Hedges_War_Is_A_Force_sm.jpg

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

started quoting from the bible

Sure as shit she wasn't quoting Jesus. Old Testament was mighty bloodthirsty, though.

― Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

umm.... Jesus: "Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword."

and.... Orson: "Don't be so gloomy. After all it's not that awful. Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. So long Holly."

but, I'm not sure, I still think peace can be pretty good.

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 05:52 (nineteen years ago)

How can you trust Orson, with those stupid hats they wear?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 07:48 (nineteen years ago)

I don't see any hats:

http://website.lineone.net/~jbonno/greenpigs/pictures/orson.gif

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

The problem with peace - we only like it if it benefits us completely. If peace impinges, humankind doesn't suffer it lightly. And peace will generally impinge in the modern world. Someone will be "getting away" with something we don't like, will be inflicting injustice on someone somewhere, will be preventing the full exercise of what someone else sees as their divine right. Peace is but a tenuous order glossed onto the normal chaos that is humanity's preferred existence.

― Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

peace: GOOD
war: BAD

there has never been peace, tho.

― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, "pro-peace" is next to meaningless except as a stick to beat other people with isn't it (oh the irony). It's like "pro-life", I mean, who isn't?

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

Um, I think Harry Lime was being ironic.

Who's for national unity and the renaisance? Shall we begin with Poland?

Seriously, though, who do I have to bomb to shut down Rent once and for all?

― Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

You won't be able to sort out Poland... that guy from the Self-Defence party will be able to defend himsef.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 11 May 2006 08:52 (nineteen years ago)

Vicar, you sound a bit like Simon Hoggart on NI.

― the finefox (the pinefox), Thursday, 11 May 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

Mmm yeah. I've gone Poland mad lately, thanks to spy school lectures on it. You have to love a country where the governing coalition comprises Self Defence, Law & Justice, and the League of Families.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

you go to a spy school?

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but I don't like to talk about it.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

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