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Fucking student government bitches. And yes, before anyone calls me out for it, I WAS student body president - 12 years ago!

But seriously - the air of self-importance, the humidity, the fetid rivers of governmental waste, the lack of full-frontal strip clubs - I am leaving DC in 19 days, and want to hear why you all think I shouldn't miss this town!

Big Loud Ape Mountain (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

Ally, Tom - I know you have something to say here.

Big Loud Ape Mountain (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

theres no wife here

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Is that it? Is that the ONLY thing I dislike about this place?

No.

Big Loud Ape Mountain (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

im bored, might take the chinatown bus to dc, philly, or boston for a couple days. dc is the farthest, i think? that sucks

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

not enough bagels
not enough good record stores
a lot of people my age dont share many of my interests
bars close somewhat early, compared with NY/LA

thats actually all i got - im pretty content here...

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

how early? i thought LA bars close at 2

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

I always get lost in DC. ALWAYS.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

The street design in Washington, D.C., has been laid out in such a manner that certain Luciferic symbols are depicted by the streets, cul-de-sacs and rotaries. This design was created in 1791, a few years after Freemasonry assumed the leadership of the New World Order, in 1782.

laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

fair enough, phil. maybe its just that there are more after-hours places in LA than in DC?

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

dude I can't fucking wait to move out of this paleface's paradise

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

what could you POSSIBLY mean by that?

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

lawrence kansas, I KNEW IT. This explains so much.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

COME TO DC, IT SUCKS PRETTY BAD BUT I'LL BUY YA A DRINK.

The shopping options in this city can be pretty dire, I feel like we get the leftovers from national chains in our H&Ms and Macy/Hechts and etc. The Club Monaco in Georgetown is usually pretty good though. Lack of an Agent Provocateur is seriously annoying my life.

Also: people who wait on line and completely fill up the Brickskeller, the Taphouse, etc so they can drink...Miller Lite. What?? Go anywhere, why are you waiting on line to get into a dive bar that is only worthwhile for having 17,000,000 beers avaialble and order Miller Lite? Just go to any number of other dive bars or Irish pubs for crying out loud, what is wrong with those people? It seems almost like DC has it 10x worse than NYC, this weird "There's a line and/or enormous crowd therefore it must be awesome" mentality. I don't mind the closing times on the bars here though, even if it is pretty early compared to NY/LA--they're still open til 3 on the weekends which isn't really that bad, though most of 'em shut down shop at 2 and then try to force you out. Better than in Bodymore Murderland, I forget which one we were in (around Fells Pt) but they not only decided to shut down shop early (despite place being PACKED) but then the bouncer started actively screaming at/fighting with/physically shoving patrons to make them leave. WTF? It was like an hour and a half before closing time.

And yeah bagel situation wtf? Plz to invent one (1) Greek lady street vendor cart with the bagels and the $1 coffees for fuck's sake.

I'm not going to complain about lack of meetable hangoutable ppl here because I've met enough awesome dudes tho quite a few of the ones outside DC proper never want to come in and hang.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

dudes the entirety of the mid-atlantic rules!

Have you been to the English deer park? (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Weird thing about my last point: most of the people I know outside of DC proper aren't any further away than, say, a lot of my friends in Brooklyn were when I lived in NYC up in Washington Heights. And I still saw all those people on a regular enough basis. So...next point: SHITTY PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

And how.

DC is good because it's so close to DELAWARE. Raise up.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

i used to not think this, but DC public trans ONLY sucks in comparison to NY public trans, which is sort of a tough battle to fight. the bus system is pretty comprehensive/reliable on major arteries, and everything off of major arteries is pretty walkable.

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Close to Delaware sorta, except you have to drive along that little two-lane road through all the farmlands and be taunted by Selbyville (or is it Bridgeville?) and their stupid "If you lived here, you'd be home now" sign, to which I'd always think, "True, I'd be home but then I'd live in Selbyville or Bridgeville or whatever, and frankly I'd rather drive more, thanks anyway."

DC is also good because you can get scrapple there.

Which is because it's so close to Delaware.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

If they would just put in that stupid circle line metro a good 70% of problems would be totally averted. This ten spokes all leading straight to the center and nowhere in between plan is for complete tools.

xpost no, I really don't feel like learning bus systems, that's giving into their pressure to not ever improve their damn metro which is, theoretically, faster, easier and capable of transporting many more people.

But the outside of DC transport system seems weak too, I mean the trains in Maryland, wtf.

I don't think I've ever actually been to Delaware. I mean, I've driven through it, and taken a train that went through it, so if that counts I've been to Delaware.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, the 'Tro ain't terrible. Now, you wanna talk about shitty public transpo, see one Los Angeles.

Big Loud Ape Mountain (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

He's never got enough swapsies, the git.

Oh WASHINGTON DC?

It feels like the promised wonderland to me just now, final destination in a longed-for holiday which is the only light at the end of a particularly punishing spell of work hell. Hooray for DC!

Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

At least we don't have dropped matches setting the filthy trash-ridden grease aflame which catches on the wooden escalator stairs, leading to a "trench effect" wherein the superheated gases cause all the steps above them to combust spontaneously, fueling an inferno which fills the turnstile areas killing 31 people in an absolutely horrifying fashion.

I can now safely say I'm no longer ornery and aggravated because of the new voice on the Metro but those goddamn musicbox samples need to fucking GO. REMOVE YA.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, and if I want to see REALLY shitty public transpo, see Iowa! Other things being worse =/ DC being defensible, dude.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

At least we don't have dropped matches setting the filthy trash-ridden grease aflame which catches on the wooden escalator stairs, leading to a "trench effect" wherein the superheated gases cause all the steps above them to combust spontaneously, fueling an inferno which fills the turnstile areas killing 31 people in an absolutely horrifying fashion.

Um this would actually be kind of awesome depending on what Metro stop this occurs at and what time of day it is? What are you talking about? Hello 5:00pm, Farragut West! I'm looking at you!

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

i actually think DC trans is good. it IS bad in comparison to NY, but the subway is like one of god's best engineering marvels, and expanding DC metro to be as comprehensive as NY's is waaay different than building it that way in the first place (which we're too late for, sorrz). there are certainly steps DC should take (purple line, dulles line, 16th street stops would all be great), but the metro includes both buses and trains, and in that way, is more than adequate.

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

why the buildings so short? and also the us government is there wtf?

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

If it is actually "more than adequate" then why do people basically think it sucks? No one is asking it to be "as comprehensive as NY's," I'm saying they should stop spending every dollar the metro gets on enhancing suburban VA and start spending money on enhancing intra-city transportation, which they seem to be wholly unwilling to do. No way in hell, btw, should we be considering a Dulles line before they extend to BWI--VA's already got an airport metro and BWI isn't further out than Dulles is, plus it's a better airport anyway.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

On the other hand it's not like they never offered to put metros in Georgetown or in proper Adams Morgan (ie NOT WOODLEY PARK), the community boards turned it down. Oh noes blacks and mexicans might come to our neighborhoods and scare the school kids oh noes.

So yeah I guess the ire towards the metro should be more directed towards the people who are lifers in this city.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Various reasons for the height requirements - http://urbanplanet.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t2214.html

Big Loud Ape Mountain (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Ally, reasons for BWI being better than Dulles?

Big Loud Ape Mountain (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

The height requirement thing is not a big deal but why do they have so many buildings that are zoned for one purpose? Is there some drama about having a store front with apartments on top of it or something? Because I notice a lot of that here, whereas I don't in other cities, a lot less "mixed use" buildings.

xpost more airlines fly in and out of BWI, simple as that.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

the height requirement is a little lame, its true.

1.A LOT OF COMMUTERS COME FROM SUBURBAN VA!
2.INTRA-CITY TRANSPORT = TAKE THE BUS. IT'S CHEAPER, AND YOU SEE THE SUNLIGHT ALL THE TIME.

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

Also even for an airport Dulles is particularly retardedly laid out. BWI is pretty all right, as those things go.

Have you been to the English deer park? (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

The bus is also exponentially slower than a metro would be (and often slower than WALKING is depending on how far you're going, especially during peak time) so...?

Also oh boo hoo tons of commuters come in from Arlington--uh a lot of commuters come in from Columbia too, why not enhance transport up there too? Oh right cos ppl in VA have bitched a whole lot more at Metro meetings.

xpost yeah that's OTM re: Dulles, BWI is kind of crazy with the parking lot being 18 miles away or whatever but the airport itself is totally straightforward.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

i know the height limits are supposed to imbue dc with lightnairyness but it just provokes malaise in me - like where am i? is this downtown wtf? it robs the city of important symbols of citiness and replaces them with oppressive sameness. and isn't it all about freedom? where is the freedom?

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

dude thats simply not true about bus times.

also,
1)
2)

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, you can't complain about people making their voices heard. Equity doesn't reward those who sleep on their rights.

Now, if Columbia were not in the inenviable position of being in-between Baltimore and DC, it would be able to pay more attention to the DC side of issues. Still - they're a planned community, right? Act like it!

Big Loud Ape Mountain (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

and all those huge block sized buildings - those are dire.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

ALSO THEY ARE FIVE (5) TIMES AS FAR FROM DC AS ARLINGTON

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Pete, this argument comes down to this:

A) I refuse to support bus transport. It's outmoded and, while I know they've installed a couple of "clean air vehicles," it's a pollutant (not to mention hi gas prices how is it made). I don't think we should be encouraging the Metro authority to rely on bus transport in lieu of examining ways to enhance more sustainable vehicles.
B) I really dislike the fact that, for all intents and purposes, it appears from just looking at the system and knowing a little about how the Metro authority runs, a rather alarming portion of money seems to have been allocated to a very specific part of Virginia. I'm glad they put in the NY Ave stop and the Largo extention, hopefully this is a sign of changing opinions. They really need to install a circle line before they even consider additional extentions in VA however. I mean Fairfax is pretty fucking far out dude--why NOT have a Columbia extention if "commuters" are the reasoning for not examining intra-city improvements?

I walk pretty much everywhere and only use the metro when necessary so my interest/annoyance in their system is far less because I rilly, rilly want a line that drops me off straight up in front of like the Gtown Mall or something like that. It's more just a case of irritation/fascination with shitty planning and the people who have allowed it/encouraged it.

xpost yeah I agree with that, BLAM, I'm not blaming Virginia for asking for more shit, I'm blaming everyone else for not telling them to sit the hell down already.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

May 2005: "You live in Chicago. Why on earth would you want to move to DC?"

May 2006: "Why on earth did I move to DC?"

ng-unit (ng-unit), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

HI PETE THE METRO SYSTEM IN VA GOES FAR, FAR BEYOND COURTHOUSE, DID YOU KNOW??

xpost haha

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

alright im having a pizza party at work now. we should discus at hunan more about this

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

There's VA past Courthouse? What, like Richmond?

Big Loud Ape Mountain (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

but in a comparison of arlington and columbia, its clear who gets the DC transport dollars

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

OK I will come with charts.

xpost hahahaha no dude...like...Monticello...

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

whenever someone tells me to take the bus i'm all - have you never noticed how depressing the bus is? and slow, so slow, always stopping.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Columbia v Fairfax was the comparison I made, you know. You can keep comparing Columbia, MD with, like, the Rosslyn stop but deep down in your heart you know that's just making shit up.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

xp - yes but there are more hot girls on the bus than on the metro - this is provable by science. whether or not that's an enticement naturally depends, but it's totally true!

Have you been to the English deer park? (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

oh my god. tourists on the metro. during cherry blossom season. that was the worst. standing on the escalator is one thing, but standing in the area just past the escalator, as a neverending flow of people try to exit behind you? what the fuck.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know those tourists sound pretty great to me.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

classic for groups of teenagers/preteens getting separated by merciless metro doors (these ain't no elevators duders), followed by chaperone freak-outs.

Have you been to the English deer park? (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

Oh jesus. While they loudly wonder where they are. I am always confused by those people, because the last thing I'd think to do, if I didn't know where I was or what neighborhood I was in or what metro I was standing next to, would be to ENTER THE METRO, PAY MONEY, AND THEN FIGURE OUT WTF I AM DOING. Seriously, why do they do this? There are maps upstairs, nowhere near the trains, before the point where you have to pay. In fact they will even give you a free map to carry with you. Why would anyone do this? It seems so utterly, utterly thoughtless and stupid that it amazes me that these people survive their day to day activities. WHY would you pay money to enter a metro when you not only don't know exactly where you are going or what line to take, but you actually need to ask what metro station you're even in?

Haha though groups getting separated is awesome.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

I try to be helpful when people ask me for directions in general but sometimes I just can't keep up the facade of politeness, and the day a family of tourists asked me, "What metro station are we in right now?" was that day.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

You know what, that is ultimately my issue with tourists in general, I really don't care either way but there's like the 5% who act like they're trying to prove Darwin seriously wrong that just make you wanna kill someone. Cos we've all been tourists in other cities, none of us (I presume) act like this. Who are these people? I imagine they just roam the entire world, giving all travel a bad name.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

DC tourists who swarm all over Delaware's beautiful beaches every summer = dudzone! ALTHOUGH, without you people, we'd all be dirt farmers and scrapple would be a Christmas delicacy and not an every day breakfast meat so I shouldn't complain too much. Also, if it weren't for DC tourists, I would have grown up with nothing but rednecks to pal around with.

Basically, tourists suck any time they are clogging up where you live. Nothing irritates me more than Cubs fans all clotted around the turnstiles of the El, acting like they've never seen a fare card before, waving twenties at the Chicago Card sensor and whining about how they haaaaaaate taking the El because OMG black people!!!

xpost: YES ALLY is correct.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

xpost i did the reverse, dc-washington heights. i love the fact that i can visit my friends out in brooklyn on friday night and get home without dc cab bilking, whereas coming home late from Takoma is a no-go.

as for the bar thing, however, the beer garden (astoria) has been suffering from brickskeller-esque crowd problems recently.

no good dj bars in dc either. (although wonderland is a nice addition)

burna (burna), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

99% of annoying tourists arent from cities

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh DC Cabs are still a complete mystery to me. No matter if you go 1 block or 20, they will charge you $10.

That's sad about the Beer Garden!!! It might be possible it's getting that problem because of better weather + one of few bars you can smoke in (due to most of bar being outdoors)? :\

xpost tell that to tourists from Tokyo!

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

DC cabs are extremely lame, no doubt

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

xxxpost you've never done something exceptionally stupid due to your bewilderment at a alien environment? cause i have, many times. particularly in weird countries far far way. not so much in the us though. those people really have no excuse. although if i was from a small town and had no experience with mass transit i could kind of see it.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

Though crazy confused Tokyo tourists are more of a NY-Times Square thing, not a DC thing. Most DC tourists are not coming in from other cities, I would believe that's true.

That being said I have a hard time believing the annoying tourists in smaller areas and beachtowns AREN'T from cities.

xpost Maybe I'm supernaturally able to adapt to alien environments. I also know plenty of people from small towns who live in NYC now. And like I said 95% of tourists, this doesn't seem to apply to.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

Last spring the NYP, NYDN and all those free papers ran "Best Places to Drink Outdoors" featuring the beer garden. Come the first nice weekend evening in May there was a line stretching out to the fish market on 30th Ave. bummer. Maybe it will be "so 2005," and once again reasonable.
Sorry to go so off-thread.

Another complaint, horrible home record for the Nats at RFK. The only win I've seen in attendance was at Shea.

burna (burna), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

It's not the lack of experience that irritates me, at all. I'm very sympathetic to people who break out of their comfort zone to check out the wild and wonderful city and I am generally a very helpful person. What gets me is an apparent lack of awareness of surroundings and a certain sense of entitlement, as in "I'm on VACATION and OBLIVIOUS."

I bitched about DC tourists in Delaware, but really, DE beaches ARE for tourists. The state's economy would be nothing without (well, tourists and banks and asset protection trusts...) them so it's misplaced to complain there.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Oh wow are you serious re: Beer Garden? Yikes. That's really too bad. It was kind of a hike but a fun place.

What is up with the Nats seemingly not being able to sell tickets?? That's kind of sad.

What gets me is an apparent lack of awareness of surroundings and a certain sense of entitlement, as in "I'm on VACATION and OBLIVIOUS."

YES that's what I mean as well, it's one thing to BE a tourist, that's fine and I really am generally very helpful to these people. But being completely oblivious and kind of RUDE about it, wtf? Being a tourist is fine, being a stereotype of an Ugly American (regardless of where you are from) is not. But this really is a much wider issue. The uniqueness in DC is the people who insist on clogging the metros at rush hour while being tourists, I still don't get why they don't sleep in.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

DC does have the unique issue of being a tour spot where nobody goes to enjoy themselves. People come to DC to be edumacated, which is like arrgh gross wtf it's just a goddamned statue people.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

but it's hard to tell when you're being oblivious. i don't know if you've had the experience of being in, say, asia - and people are finding you just a little too amusing and it's because you're clueless but you're all - i don't know how to be not clueless in cambodia i'm not from here and further more i consider myself to be a quite intelligent intuitive curious chap!

which is not to say that some tourists aren't willfully ignorant. anyway i like tourists with all their looking around. it reminds me to do the same. also shy japanese girls asking for directions is the best!

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Hey honey I was thinking we should spend $1500 to go see a museum about the HOLOCAUST and a few big sculptures about all the americans who died in wars over the past century. Also, we can go look at the fucking WHITE HOUSE and take some PICTURES OF THE CAPITOL.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

http://scoopsnoodle.com/playa/playaimages/DSC04563.jpg

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i sort of agree with tom. i wouldnt come to DC for a vacation.

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

coming to DC for a vacation = let's go see GROUND ZERO

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

yeah fuck vacationing here. i like it as a place to live (around), though!

Have you been to the English deer park? (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://reek.tv/pix/groundzero%20copy.gif

???

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

DC has short buildings so that it can be America's Paris. The Osakan-Iowayan tourists in your way are merely intoxicated by its nectar.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

My favorite NYC tourists are the ones who treat the city like they're on a giant movie set, which in Manhattan is kind of true, and are always stopping to get their picture taken in front of that one mailbox that Meg Ryan leaned on in You've Got Mail or whatever while the locals are all grrr, I just want to drop off my mail.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

One development that I do like that I have seen over the past few years is that people are getting more tolerant of filled up Metro cars. It could be that I am an above average sized man with a pretty loud voice, but, even when I politely suggest "Hey man....can you move in a little bit more?", folks now seem pretty much like "What? Oh, ok." than they did four years ago. Then, it was "OMGWTF YOU TALKEDTOANDTOUCHEDME!!!!?!?!?!?!"

But the tourists seem to think that its such a bad thing that the trains are so crowded at rush hour. Hence, the name, fat boy!!!

Big Loud Ape Mountain (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

i love how the bk bridge walkway is CONSTANTLY FULL OF GERMANS! this completely slays me.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

DCist appears to be reading ILX

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

y'know what? dc's okay except for the meterless cabs and the political bitches to whom i pay no attention.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 23:27 (nineteen years ago)

I love buses! What are the best lines to take? I might ride them more if my panda metro card allowed free passage.

DC is too far from my house--that's my only gripe with it at the moment.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 23:44 (nineteen years ago)

get a smartrip card, mary! then at least youll never have to keep track of transfers for the bus. i dont know anything about the alexandria buses. the 38B (i think) is the "orange line above ground," and goes from farragut or foggy bottom, through gtown, out to southern arlington.

- s buses go from fed triangle to silver spring and are the most reliable ones in the whole system
- e buses go across military - good for getting from ct to 16th and vice versa
- l buses go up and down ct like s buses do 16th st
- h buses go from wisconsin to mt pleasant - somewhat infrequent
- 42 goes from downtown to mt pleasant and back

those are the ones i have most experience with. ive used the wmata site a bunch of times, though, to catch a random bus around the city etc. i dunno, the buses feel less antiseptic than the metro. theyre noisier and i can see the sunlight. plus yeah, TONS more chicks.

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Thursday, 11 May 2006 01:58 (nineteen years ago)

The bus system here would work better if there was a frigging dedicated bus lane instead of making the goddamned polluting monsters just idle in traffic with everyone else. But try to convince the regionwide population of NIMBYs to build another lane. Plus, I-66 = WORST FUCKING FREEWAY EVER IT SHOULD NEVER EVER TAKE ME 2 HRS TO TRAVEL FROM ARLINGTON TO FAIRFAX. ASSHOLES.

phil d. (Phil D.), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

Agreed. But, thats what happens when you retro-fit a city with highways. Arlignton, in particular, is hellish for this.

Big Loud Ape Mountain (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

yeah - DC has a bunch of retro-fit problems. it wasnt designed well at all for transit.

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, compared to Cleveland, public transport here is paradise, easily. On the other hand, I could travel the equivalent distance by car of, say, Fairfax to DC into downtown Cleveland in 20 minutes easy.

phil d. (Phil D.), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

should i go to cleveland sometime?

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't understand people who vacation here either. If you have some purpose to be here, like a convention or a wedding or you're visiting a relative that's one thing but whywould you just come here for fun? Weird fuckin people. It's not like it's a cheap destination! Go to Charleston, that seems much nicer.

Retro-fitting is bad, this is why Tom and I have probably gotten into 17 heated arguments vis a vis the "taxation without representation" issue because we shouldn't be getting representation, I don't want morons who moved to a city that was literally designed, on purpose, for NO ONE TO ACTUALLY LIVE HERE being represented, too many idiots are represented in this country as is and really I don't deserve to be represented if I can't figure out something that simple. I mean really I have to admit I can't be too hard on the lackingness of certain things because NO ONE WAS SUPPOSED TO ACTUALLY LIVE HERE when they made this city. Ha ha and boy does it show LOL etc!

Though, uh, they could like not make us pay taxes I guess.

xpost yeah why not. According to the Drew Carey Show, Cleveland rocks and I don't see why I shouldn't trust that.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

I liked Cleveland well enough when I went there a few years ago, and Pete, EBH had pretty good things to say about it, didn't she?

Have you been to the English deer park? (teenagequiet), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

yeah thats true, and i like her

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

I looked into Smarttrip, but I can't really justify the $5 starter fee at this point as I rarely take Metro.

I like buses because you can see stuff. I took a bus once from Dupont to Adams Morgan--that was fun.

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i understand that - its weird that they dont give you any real discount, and you still have to pay $5, but ive found it to be way more convenient than paper cards/money.

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

phil d I take the train into cleveland every day, it's awesome. You all are welcome to take the train with me everyday.

laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

My smartrip was free?????????

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

through work?

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

laurence, if you live near a train line, or have a bus that gets there easily without you having to change lines, terrific -- if not, good luck. Ever try getting from, say, Berea to Broadview Hts. easily? (I used to have to do this several times a week.) Or Lakewood to Parma? Not such a piece of cake. RTA is superb for downtown-to-airport and vice versa, or for reaching some major East Side suburbs.
I mean, really:

http://img469.imgshack.us/img469/6732/clerta2vs.gif

phil d. (Phil D.), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, I got my card at work.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Argh.

http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/6732/clerta2vs.gif

phil d. (Phil D.), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

yeah phil I hear ya (I live at Shaker Square). The spokes layout needs a wheel to cover the burbs but it'll never happen- it encourages sprawl (according to the transit authority).

laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

This weather is making it sound like the tide is coming in on our ceiling.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)


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