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I'm not really into "Natural things" but I buy their products because they are a small, saner business model. Do you ? Side question: is buying things cheap at walmart payback for their evil ways or just suporting the evil?

mike hanle y, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hanle y, are you turning into a hippy?

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

NO, BUT I HAVE A HIP

Mike Hanle y, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Their toothpaste is nice - I like the fennel one, but I wish they'd come up with a package that was recyclable without getting messy.

I don't trust the deodorant - I prefer to torture my sweat glands into submission. I'm not a peasant when it comes to hygiene.

I can never go into a Wal-Mart again because that's where a certain person bought his gun. I know it doesn't make a damn bit of difference to Wal-Mart, I just can't do it. Fortunately, Wal-Mart is only out in the boonies around here, so I don't have to look at it. If I want toilet paper or even a hammer at 3 AM, I can just go down to the corner.

Kerry, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I KIND OF AGREE ABOUT THE DEODORANT BUT I JUST APPLY IT OFTEN. I HEAR MARTHA STWEART MAY DEFECT TO WALMART FROM KMART!

Mike Hanle y, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I actually use Tom's for the deodorant and it seems to do the trick. Tried the toothpaste, but I'll stick with Mentadent.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

HAVE YOU TRIED USING MENTADENT FOR DEODORAT?

Mike Hanle y, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That toothpaste gave me mouth ulcers (and somebody else I know reported a vaguely similar reaction). I've never had that kind of reaction to any toothpaste before...very strange.

David Inglesfield, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ned is right as usual. Mentadent refillable pump is the ONLY WAY TO GO.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

WHAT ABOUT SENSODYNE?

Mike Hanle y, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ned is right as usual.

Lllllllllllllove ME!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ToM's shaving cream gives me the closest, smoothest shave I've ever had. It's a bit expensive, though, so I don't use it much.

Michael Daddino, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

but the shave cream smells liek diapers!

mike hanle y, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I love the taste and feel of Tom's toothpastes, but now that I've discovered Rembrandt anti-canker-sore toothpaste (IT REALLY WORKS!) I can't use anything else. Canker sores used to be the bane of my daily life...

A friend once referred to Tom's as "Tom's of Finland." I don't even want to think about what flavor that toothpaste would be.

Douglas, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

actually i have a HORRIBLE canker sore right now. the last three days have been misery. its the worst canker sore i have ever had in my life. help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mike hanle y, Sunday, 27 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I met Tom (of Maine) once. The vitamin company I used to work for was talking about a partnership with them. I use their products because I get them free, but I like Crest and whatever better.

Otis Wheeler, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's not toxic enough. I want to attack my teeth with harsh minty chemicals.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

four years pass...
oh noes, i just bought tom's hippie toothpaste. i have reached the end of my giant tube of colgate total with whitening and superior cleaning tartar destructo-force. i think tom's must've upgraded since 2002 though b/c this says 'whitening' and other things on it - and no fluoride! - it does not look so hippie anymore! it was also on sale. which i saw as a sign.

is my mouth going to grow moss in it? do i need more/less fluoride in my life? (i don't smoke, or drink coffee or tea. okay, some tea, decaf. i also floss and listerine a few times a week and go to the dentist once a year, no problems.) it's like doing an experiment on myself. with possibly very bad results.

rrrobyn, the situation (rrrobyn), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

i really like tom's. i got the apricot kind, i think. or maybe it was orange/mango. i used it for a while but i got afraid it was turning my teeth yellow (might not be true) and went back to colgate chemical toothpaste. i think if you drink city water you have plenty of fluoride. i think tom's makes a fluoride one though?

nazi bikini (harbl), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:58 (nineteen years ago)

tom's is the only way i can go because there is no sugar that my teeth can detect. all others (the 'normal' ones) are too sweet, doesn't make my mouth feel clean. you will probably notice that, if/when you use the normal ones. tom's cinnamon is the best, imo.

ai lien (kold_krush), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:59 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah when you switch back to colgate your mouth does feel a little bit less clean, true

nazi bikini (harbl), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:02 (nineteen years ago)

you don't need fluoride. fluoride is for weenies and conspiracy theorists. you're probably overdosed anyway. it'll maybe make your pineal gland calcify. if you're jonesing, drink some scotchgard or smear yourself in telfon. there's fluoride in them, gee whiz.

also tom of maine i love you (we're alums, you know... me and jon and elmo and tom of maine) but your fennel toothpaste was so odd it made everything i ate taste like rubber, and i kept dreaming about tires. and licorice.

Vacillatrix (x Jeremy), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:02 (nineteen years ago)

) so can i please have some free stuff?

Vacillatrix (x Jeremy), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:03 (nineteen years ago)

you already closed the parethenses

PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:04 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, i was getting tired of the caustic and sweet of colgate - i kept using smaller and smaller amounts - and even though i did notice my teeth get whiter, i also wondered if that was b/c i stopped the coffee/tea...

i saw the apricot! and fennel! but i didn't want to risk ruining apricots and fennels by associating them with tooth cleaning. they didn't have cinnamon :(

uh, xpost

rrrobyn, the situation (rrrobyn), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:05 (nineteen years ago)

okay, tried it. i like how it almost tastes like nothing! minty nothing!
mouth felt at first less clean, then on second run through, more clean, slightly tingly tongue. which isn't a bad thing. yet.

rrrobyn, the situation, a minty nothing (rrrobyn), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

no jess, i'm posting backwards. )

Vacillatrix (x Jeremy), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:09 (nineteen years ago)

after a few days when you get used to it it will be less like nothing

also fluorine is highly electronegative and will steal electrons from you. not fluoride, but it's something to watch out for, k

nazi bikini (harbl), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:09 (nineteen years ago)

i am happy about this new hygiene choice.
my pineal gland says thanks! and so do my electrons!
(i should stop scotchguarding my face every morning too. i thought it provided protection. WRONG.)

rrrobyn, the situation (rrrobyn), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:11 (nineteen years ago)

TSA confiscated my unscented T.O.M. deodorant last Thursday, but unfortunately when I got to my folks' house I discovered my dad had bought a stick of the woodspice (woodspice more like old spice) and didn't like it, so I came up on his hand-me-down. I had the foresight to check the bag on the flight home so those TSA dicklicks couldn't get it and throw it in the Homeland Security Trash.

ath (ath), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:19 (nineteen years ago)

you know they're using it right now

rrrobyn, the situation (rrrobyn), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

and all the lipgloss too

rrrobyn, the situation (rrrobyn), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

the guy took the cap off and smelled it and looked at it and went "hmmmmmmmm yeah we're gonna have to go ahead and throw this in this trash can right here, cause I'm stupid"

ath (ath), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:26 (nineteen years ago)

i was all like "guy clearly it is deodorant and not a deodorant-bomb" but no, "sorry man, as it is I am a stupid idiot"

ath (ath), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

i bet he uses AXE

rrrobyn, the situation (rrrobyn), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

there's nothing wrong with axe

PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

Axe: "Tang":: Armani Acqua Di Gio: "Lady Vagina"

ath (ath), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

i bet he uses BOD MAN

nazi bikini (harbl), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:32 (nineteen years ago)

he would have wanted my BOD

ath (ath), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:34 (nineteen years ago)

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B00066N8WA.01-AIKKS6SOQ6I71._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1097103744_.jpg

nazi bikini (harbl), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:37 (nineteen years ago)

i like those axe ads where its just the shower stall with the mirror on the ceiling

PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

cuz he's BAD

PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

i heard some organic chemists at Tom's Labs of Maine were putting the finishing touches on a Tom's Deodorant Hummus that you would basically scoop out of a jar and smear onto your armpits and/or eat with pita bread or asparagus sticks

ath (ath), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:41 (nineteen years ago)

i do like the axe ads
and axe is better than certain people's unwashed armpits, i'll admit that. but i'm into unscented, not as a rule, but as a thing.

xpost, haha

rrrobyn, the situation (rrrobyn), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:41 (nineteen years ago)

tom's deodorant is crappy - it didn't prevent the stench & it gave me a very painful rash. fucking hippies......

timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:44 (nineteen years ago)

i have never found a health-food store deodorant that worked. except for the crystal! but only in the winter, when sweating is lessened. summertime = ALUMINUM %%% IN MY ARMPITS WHATEVER

rrrobyn, the situation (rrrobyn), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:47 (nineteen years ago)

i used to get high outside the kennebunk factory at three am all the time, but i got too much mouth for their toothpaste.

kephm (kephm), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:48 (nineteen years ago)

ath, can't u slide thru checkpoints with your rockefeller.mil base security badge?

=[[ (eman), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:49 (nineteen years ago)

hippie deodorant is the worst, rub some crystal in yr pit and the elves of san glocca jocca will keep you fresh all day long or whatever, fucking bullshit. everything else hippie hygeine is pretty great though, i used to buy this soap that was awesome and cheap but now they don't carry it anymore and the other kind they have that's at all similar is like ten bucks a bar: i'm onto yr game hippy justice! sometimes when i'm in the checkout line i'll stare and stare at them paul newman peanut butter cups and wonder and wonder.

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

was this soap KIRK'S COCONUT CASTILE? because i love that stuff and used to get it for 85 cents at wegmans but i can't find it anywhere in columbus, not even at the co-op for $3. nothing!

nazi bikini (harbl), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:54 (nineteen years ago)

my mouth still feels clean! (even with the gross tea i just drank.)
the thing is also, there are so many variables at work in your friend's equation, j. i feel like fluoride is all around me anyway. watching. waiting. you know.
xpost
you sold out a long time ago

rrrobyn, the situation (rrrobyn), Friday, 18 August 2006 04:56 (nineteen years ago)

and ned, sometimes, sometimes, the wise is there

rrrobyn, the situation (rrrobyn), Friday, 18 August 2006 04:58 (nineteen years ago)

"Whole Foods" can be rearranged to spell "Who's fooled?"

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 18 August 2006 05:04 (nineteen years ago)

you sold out a long time ago

true. ;_;

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 August 2006 05:06 (nineteen years ago)

the fennel flavor was strange and overpowering and the aftertaste is not unlike that of a good vomiting session(kind of a stale numbness) but it was oddly compelling. It would have helped to know what 'fennel' was before we bought it but we were in a 'what the hell' mood - 'black jellybean' pretty much covers it. My wife and I never complained to each other, we just finished the tube as a point of pride and quietly went back to spearmint, but the scars remain.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 18 August 2006 05:16 (nineteen years ago)

"Whole Foods" can be rearranged to spell "Who's fooled?"

OH SNAPZZZZ!!!!!!!

After using Tom's for years now, I can't brush with that other shit -- tastes like candy. Zero cavities.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 18 August 2006 06:33 (nineteen years ago)

oh that whole foods coconut/lime or mango/vanilla shave gel is such a fucking scam. nice smells but you might as well shave w/ a thin later of hand soap.

glen kim is fucking me over (vahid), Friday, 18 August 2006 08:17 (nineteen years ago)

lather / layer

glen kim is fucking me over (vahid), Friday, 18 August 2006 08:17 (nineteen years ago)

that Dr. Bronner's shit is weird, it supposed to be an all-in-one thing. wash with it, shave with it, brush with it, cook with it, fly with it,

=[[ (eman), Friday, 18 August 2006 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

I have to use Tom's deodarnt. Anything 'anti-perspriant' breaks me out. I have a closet full of hippie sticks.

The Tom's lemon-lime mouthwash isn't bad. kind of strange b/c mouthwash is usually minty.

Handmaiden of Hip Hop (Molly Jones), Friday, 18 August 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

I would try their mouthwash! But I'm lazy & buy all toiletries from the D**** R*** on my way home from work. I shd branch out. I do, however, have hippy floss called ECO-DENT GENTLE FLOSS that's just string in a cardboard box. In fact the floss comes coated in "all natural essential oils and enzymes" (enzymes???) in a flavor saver-type plastic bag that you crack open.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 18 August 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

I got the mouthwash at a Walgr*en's! Tom's is branching out.

Handmaiden of Hip Hop (Molly Jones), Friday, 18 August 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

was this soap KIRK'S COCONUT CASTILE?

nazi bikini, you have excellent taste in soap. (Not that you eat it, or anything like that. I only meant... ah, forget it.)

Aimless (Aimless), Friday, 18 August 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

i usually like tom's toothpaste, but the tube i have now has a shitty aftertaste. it's whole care whitening or something, and supposed to be wintermint, but instead it tastes odd, and listerine doesn't really cover up the aftertaste.

i've tried their deodorants and they don't work that well, as well as smelling blah. i use the hippie crystal stuff and it works fine for me.

Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 18 August 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

What's up with asterisking Duane Reade, dude?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 August 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like that Chicago has CVSes now. It was better when I'd read about them in Nicholson Baker's The Mezzanine and imagine this exotic East-Coast drugstore.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 August 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

What's up with asterisking Duane Reade, dude?

Their followers are so annoying.

I don't like that Chicago has CVSes now.

We also now have CVS and I hate them. Their service blows and it's like the yankees invaded all over again.

Handmaiden of Hip Hop (Molly Jones), Friday, 18 August 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

For a lark, I brushed my teeth with Dr. Bronner's last night. Tasted almost exactly like washing your mouth out with soap, except for the scorched vomit aftermath. I think this idea is among the "idiosyncrasies" the Bronner estate "disagrees" with on their website statement.

Alicia Titsovich (sexyDancer), Friday, 18 August 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

i put dr bronner on my face yesterday by accident (grabbed wrong thing in shower) and it made it all dry and hurty.

nazi bikini (harbl), Friday, 18 August 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

i think tom's is owned by johnson and johnson now. or procter gamble or something.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 18 August 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

colgate-palmolive, I guess, actually.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 18 August 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

I have a tube of Trader Joe's Tom's-of-Maine style toothpaste (similar packaging) and it's stronger flavored than the original. I'm going to look for the Tom's apricot when this one's done.

nickn (nickn), Friday, 18 August 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

Tom's still has the SLS detergent stuff that gives me canker sores :( I've been using Squigle enamel saver (full of magical XYLITOL!!!), which also has a lovely mild vanilla-peppermint flavor and can be found on the internets though not in many stores.

Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 18 August 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

baking soda gives me canker sores-- what's sls?

tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 18 August 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

sodium lauryl sulfate (sp?) It's an inexpensive detergent made from coconut oil and causes toothpaste (and shampoo/body washes) to foam. There's a few toothpastes that don't have it - Rembrandt makes one, but I haven't found it.

Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 18 August 2006 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

i went to a hippie/commie summer camp in my youth and and at the "camp store" (a 30-yr-old wooden cabin that was constantly being infested by wasps) all they sold was hippie soap, hippie toothpaste, hippie deodorant (do 9-year-olds use deodorant? i don't remember), etc. so i became very familiar with the relatively narrow range of hippie toiletries available ca. late 1980s. tom's cinnamon brings back memories. i would eat little bits of it at times. i bought the fennel kind a few times, took a sort of "no pain no gain" approach to it, much like pomegranate juice: drinking this is an ordeal, so it must be replenishing nutrients or some shit.

dr. bronner's always creeped me out. all the writing that is (or used to be????) on the side of the bottles reminded me of a cracked-out ralph waldo emerson or something. nowadays it makes me think of snake oil and suchlike--one of those all-purpose "cure all your ails" potions that often came with some kind of half-assed philosophy attached. when did the fda start requiring ingredients listed on packaging? becuse i sort of remember when the contents of dr. bronner's were a mystery.

but yes, tom's of maine. their deodorant never works for me at all--i remember this from years back. my dentist told me to use the tartar-fighting crest stuff. not that my teeth have ever showed any damage from anything.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 18 August 2006 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

i haven't worn deodorant since 9th grade.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 18 August 2006 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

thats messed up, dude. so you just eat grains and leaves and stuff? cuz if you eat burritos and shit like me you gotta wear the stuff with like 95 % tin foil in it and has commercials with tom green and bam margera.

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 20 August 2006 03:30 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha!
individual body chemistry is a crazy thing. so are burritos.

my teeth really do feel cleaner with the tom's! i want to hear more about adventures in apricot toothpaste. i've never been super keen on apricots anyway, though i like dried ones better (something about the texture) - a very once-in-a-while fruit - so using it every day, hm... and i wonder if it tastes like fresh ones or dried ones.

rrrobyn, the situation (rrrobyn), Sunday, 20 August 2006 03:42 (nineteen years ago)

i grew up on tom's toothpaste but i like nature's gate better. and if you brush your teeth with any of those things for a week and then try to switch to crest or some shit like that, it just tastes chemical-waste wretched.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 20 August 2006 06:51 (nineteen years ago)

I really like the fennel toothpaste. And gypsy OTM.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 20 August 2006 06:53 (nineteen years ago)

I think they changed the recipe of the fennel toothpaste when they got bought up by a mega-corporation. Doesn't taste good to me now, and it used to be my fave. Now I use the baking-soda pepperment, w/o flouride if I can find it.
You can always brush your teeth with straight baking soda.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Sunday, 20 August 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

That would be Colgate-Palmolive.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Sunday, 20 August 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5294117

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Sunday, 20 August 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

why all the big ups for Crest here? whats wrong with Colgate?

=[[ (eman), Sunday, 20 August 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

thats messed up, dude. so you just eat grains and leaves and stuff? cuz if you eat burritos and shit like me you gotta wear the stuff with like 95 % tin foil in it and has commercials with tom green and bam margera.

I just don't get all that smelly, I guess. And, uh, eat lots of grains and leaves and stuff.

gbx (skowly), Sunday, 20 August 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

i quit using deodorant too. i get kind of smelly but not that bad, who cares. i eat a lot of grains and leaves too. and burritos.

nazi bikini (harbl), Sunday, 20 August 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

does anybody ever use ecodent or kiss my face toothpaste? i mean, how do they compare to TOM?

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Sunday, 20 August 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

I've used Nature's Gate because it's slightly cheaper and our store has a peppermint one w/o flouride. It's fine.
I hate all the supersweet toothpastes. Ick. Also, if you don't like sweet, beware the Tom's mouthwash that's full of xylitol. One flavor has it, the other is fine. I forget which is which.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 21 August 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

burt's bees lavender mint toothpaste is great!

ai lien (kold_krush), Monday, 21 August 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

I like Colgate better than Crest. I'm trying to think again about what I didn't like about Tom's: it felt too gummy or something.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 August 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

One dentist I went to thought Tom's was too abrasive—that I'd wear off my enamel. I solved that problem by stopping going to the dentist.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 21 August 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

ha!

ai lien (kold_krush), Monday, 21 August 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

don't dentists get visits and freebies, etc. from colgate, crest, and crew?

ai lien (kold_krush), Monday, 21 August 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

five years pass...

lol hippies

buzza, Sunday, 1 April 2012 02:59 (thirteen years ago)

I am trying to switch to natural deodorant bc commercial ones were irritating the hell out of my underarms....and all I have learned so far is that I am stinky! :(

I tried Tom's for abt 6 months. Stinko.

I am now using Jason (with umlauts).
Still mostly stinko under faint smell of
teatree.

Has anyone had luck not being smelly? Is it me? Should I just accept senility and cover myself in aluminium?

f

tea

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 April 2012 04:19 (thirteen years ago)

(ignore f tea...lol stupid phone)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 April 2012 04:20 (thirteen years ago)

Somebody here (Le Lechera maybe?) pointed me at Funk Butter a few years back. Fought the stink well but I had to quit it due to pH breakouts. You might want to give it a go.

Jaq, Sunday, 1 April 2012 05:35 (thirteen years ago)

It was sweet tater (Deodorant - S/D) whoever that is now. And 5 years ago geez

Jaq, Sunday, 1 April 2012 05:38 (thirteen years ago)

thirteen years pass...

I had some Tom's of Maine underpit smell beautifyer and it smelled so good - tiem op

Minty Gum (Latham Green), Wednesday, 25 February 2026 16:54 (three weeks ago)


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