I might throw up (at the thought of OLIVER STONE'S 9/11 FILM!)

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chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

WAHT

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

Ohhhhh I remember this...this was the film that resulted in Maggie G's infamous "I don't give a fuck about the victims, we deserved it" or whatever it was she actually said interview that caused all that controversy.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

oh boy

sleep (sleep), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

It has Stephen Dorff in it, how can it be bad?

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

If I see the word "evil" used in an unironic context one more time, just one more time, I'll...

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0469641/

Nicolas Cage! Mario Bello! Stephen Dorff!

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

United 93 doesn't seem so bad now.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

United 93 seems positively fair-minded compared to this level of sentimentality and heavy-handed symbolism...Timed to take maximum advantage of the 5th anniversary too.

paulhw (paulhw), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

I was about to ask when the movie based on the Pentagon was going to be made, but then I remembered that it was released yesterday.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

at the end of this film Maggie Gyllenhaal does a Martin Lawrence dance and sings "I got two million"

and there are lot's of other sites, but all of them are fake... (sanskrit), Thursday, 18 May 2006 00:00 (nineteen years ago)

Hahahhahahahaha oh man this made me laugh more than a movie trailer has in a long, long time.

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 18 May 2006 00:14 (nineteen years ago)

zoolander billboard!

late to the bloom to the er (latebloomer), Thursday, 18 May 2006 00:17 (nineteen years ago)

oh, for fuck's sake.

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 18 May 2006 00:20 (nineteen years ago)

The trailer really makes you think a punch line is coming.

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 18 May 2006 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

You can still see the light!/YEAH! isn't a punchline?

(while buried up to their heads like the scientists absorbed by Alien Mom in Alien: Ressurection.)

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 18 May 2006 00:22 (nineteen years ago)

Stone could have at least stayed true to himself with some cracked-out Towers fall/Walls of Jericho montage overlays and Al Pacino screaming in Arabic or something.

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 18 May 2006 00:24 (nineteen years ago)

There was some comment NROward from one of the folks there saying that they'd spoken with the two firemen who the film is supposed to be based on, and apparently they were all happy with the way the filmmakers were handling the story. Which is kinda fearful in light of this.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 May 2006 00:26 (nineteen years ago)

Well it turns everyone into some kind of Kabuki hero, so I'm not that surprised.

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 18 May 2006 00:38 (nineteen years ago)

I was about to ask when the movie based on the Pentagon was going to be made, but then I remembered that it was released yesterday.

-- Pleasant Plains /// (pleasant.plain...), May 17th, 2006. (later)

Slyest comment on the thread so far, BTW.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 May 2006 00:40 (nineteen years ago)

they'd spoken with the two firemen who the film is supposed to be based on, and apparently they were all happy with the way the filmmakers were handling the story. Which is kinda fearful in light of this.

That's probably more indicative of the ridiculous overblown egos those guys must have than anything else.

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 18 May 2006 00:48 (nineteen years ago)

Given the director is Stone and all = like attracts like.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 May 2006 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

I already made that comment, Andrew and Ned!

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 18 May 2006 01:04 (nineteen years ago)

You were too oblique about it.

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 18 May 2006 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

I think one of the fireman is local. I expect lots of coverage of this in the paper.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Thursday, 18 May 2006 01:12 (nineteen years ago)

I don't care if this movie had been eventually made further on down the future. Hell, Oliver Stone, Brian De Palma, John Waters, I don't care who would've eventually made it. All I know is that for me personally, it's way too fucking early for me to be seeing that plane's shadow in a movie trailer.

Let's win the war first and then make the movies. And by "the war", I ain't talking about that business in Iraq either.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 18 May 2006 01:18 (nineteen years ago)

Thread title OTM, btw.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 18 May 2006 01:18 (nineteen years ago)

rosemary you mean one of the actors who plays a fireman is local or what?

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 18 May 2006 01:22 (nineteen years ago)

oliver stone has passed the point of self-parody and emerged into some weird straight-faced performance art shit with this crap. Only choice better to direct this would have been Mel Gibson.

timmy tannin (pompous), Thursday, 18 May 2006 02:01 (nineteen years ago)

When Cage goes "who's coming with me" and the cops step forward, you just KNOW the one who's gonna die... is the one without the copstache

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Thursday, 18 May 2006 02:17 (nineteen years ago)

Like they have time to sit there and do that. Jesus.

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 18 May 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

I don't care if this movie had been eventually made further on down the future. (...) John Waters

don't tempt us, that would have r00led

and there are lot's of other sites, but all of them are fake... (sanskrit), Thursday, 18 May 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

Oliver Stone doesn't seem to make OLIVER STONE movies anymore as we know and love them. Though it does seem hyperbolic as fuck. This seems more a gesture away from the crazy guy 60s throwback rep that's taken on a life of its own and more toward a Ron Howardesque warming-hearts tear-jerking Oscar-contending version of credibility.

theodore (herbert hebert), Thursday, 18 May 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

fireman? oops I meant Port Authority Policeman.

And that the man Nicholas Cage is portraying is from the town I grew up in.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Thursday, 18 May 2006 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

Oliver "Goebbels" Stone

Unlimited Toothpicker (eman), Thursday, 18 May 2006 03:25 (nineteen years ago)

I used to hate watching people as that green "I'm going to throw in in a couple minutes here" look spreads across their face.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 May 2006 04:16 (nineteen years ago)

Some of those special F/X look obscenely entertaining.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 May 2006 04:21 (nineteen years ago)

"a story of courage and survival"

!!


this is the "schindler's list" of 9/11 movies isn't it?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 18 May 2006 04:34 (nineteen years ago)

"a story of abject fear and death" didn't make it past the test audiences i guess

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 18 May 2006 04:37 (nineteen years ago)

x-post: Does that make United 93 the Shoah?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 May 2006 04:38 (nineteen years ago)

also why does nicholas cage have lice in his chin stubble?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 18 May 2006 04:38 (nineteen years ago)

also p.s. yes this movie makes me hate the world.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 18 May 2006 04:40 (nineteen years ago)

i fear the soundtrack

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 18 May 2006 04:40 (nineteen years ago)

Which part of the grieving process is it that involves pointing and laughing.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 May 2006 04:42 (nineteen years ago)

i fear the soundtrack

VANGELIS

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 18 May 2006 04:43 (nineteen years ago)

YES!

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 18 May 2006 04:52 (nineteen years ago)

I kept thinking of the Donnie Darko soundtrack :/ I spose Maggie G in it didnt help. Man, I think I got diabetes watching that trailer.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 18 May 2006 10:22 (nineteen years ago)

looks expensive, feels cheap

Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 18 May 2006 10:30 (nineteen years ago)

Not laughing, stunned silence. I kept checking the URL just to make sure this was real and not a parody.

The question I have is, why? Who, especially in the US, is going to want to go and watch this film so soon after the real life events happened?

mms (mms), Thursday, 18 May 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

Huuuuge lol at the bit where Cage shouts "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!" in slow motion. I've been waiting ages to see him do that, but can never be bothered to watch any of his films. Therefore this = excellent trailer.

melton mowbray's APOCALYPTO! (adr), Thursday, 18 May 2006 12:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/26/wkd.kate.winslet.ap/story.titanic.jpg

Damn, Atreyu! (x Jeremy), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

It's not a criticism per se, it's just a statement against feel-good propaganda. This film very well might not be but I don't feel like putting myself in the position to find out.

Allyzay knows where the interfacing goes. (allyzay), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Also Remy LEONARDO DIES OK?

Allyzay knows where the interfacing goes. (allyzay), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

God now THAT is a truly crap movie.

Allyzay knows where the interfacing goes. (allyzay), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

It sounds to me like the same crit leveled at Schindler's List -- that it chose an upbeat angle on a massive crime.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Schindler's List was a regular little ray of sunshine.

Allyzay knows where the interfacing goes. (allyzay), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

(im just being a dick, ally, sorry)

Damn, Atreyu! (x Jeremy), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

No no, it was funny!

Allyzay knows where the interfacing goes. (allyzay), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

i really do like 'schindler's list' a lot and that didn't bother me at all in that case, since it certainly didn't shy away from the horrors. i might prefer 'the pianist' more because i was more aware of the absence of what was once there, for some reason.

gear (gear), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

It sounds to me like the same crit leveled at Schindler's List -- that it chose an upbeat angle on a massive crime.

i'm sympathetic to that argument for sure... although i guess you could level it against grand illusion if you really wanted to

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

slocki does wtc shy away from the horrors? is it at all disturbing or intense or does it pull its punches? (it is rated pg-13 so i guess maybe a little...?)

gear (gear), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

if you really judge movies based on their trailers, well, can't help you there. enjoy snakes on a plane.

Haha, touche!

Yes, all films are manipulative - but some allow me to reflect on how they're manipulating me without affecting my enjoyment of them. Sounds like you had that type of reaction to World Trade Center.

But I don't usually enjoy Stone's films, not even in a take-em-or-leave-em way. Platoon infuriates me with its mawkishness and cartoon characterizations - all in the noble goal of bringing us a sensitive, transcendent commentary on the Vietnam experience™. If that's craftmanship, then give me crap! Imagining the same thing being done with 9/11 - I don't think I could stay in my seat. Perhaps World Trade Center is the great film Stone had in him that tragic events shook loose - but based on what I've seen I'm gonna go out on a limb and say not bloody likely.

Question: Does the marketing campaign provide an accurate or inaccurate sense of the film?

Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

any celebrity cameos?

Zwan (miccio), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

honestly i can't speak for the marketing, i've only seen that one trailer, which lays it on pretty thick.

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

and yeah, i don't think it really shies away. you see the collapse from the inside of the towers and it's harrowing. it's fucking scary. and %40 of the movie is these guys trapped basically in hell. it's horrible.

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

and maybe it's just me but despite the sappiness it's a MUCH more controlled film than anything stone has ever done.

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

I don't want to watch a movie about Sarajevo or Rwanda or anything else that is such a fresh wound. A little time, a little perspective helps immeasurably.

Btw, Steel Magnolias is great.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

and yeah, i don't think it really shies away. you see the collapse from the inside of the towers and it's harrowing. it's fucking scary. and %40 of the movie is these guys trapped basically in hell. it's horrible.

How does this improve upon the "9/11" documentary that CBS aired with the French(?) cameramen that ended up tagging along with the NYFD. That was pretty harrowing in itself and I can't see how it can be "improved" upon with a dramatic score and Oliver Stone.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'm kinda amused (confused?) as to why whenever anyone refers to an "Oliver Stone film" what they really mean is "JFK" (as if he never made "the Doors" or "Natural Born Killers" or whatever)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

Or Salvador!

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

How does this improve upon the "9/11" documentary that CBS aired with the French(?) cameramen that ended up tagging along with the NYFD. That was pretty harrowing in itself and I can't see how it can be "improved" upon with a dramatic score and Oliver Stone.

i didn't see it! and you used the word "improved" first so i'm not sure why you put in quotes!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

slocki, i know you actually saw the movie and all, but we have seen the trailers and know conclusively that the movie sucks!

ryan (ryan), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

For one thing, it has Nicolas Cage in it, who has sucked for like ten years now.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

he has some diamonds in the rough

gear (gear), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

not in the last 10 years he doesn't

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

I liked Adaptation and The Weatherman

ryan (ryan), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

'bringing out the dead' is one of my favorite scorsese films, a very unusual, peculiar film in a good way i think.

gear (gear), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i know, that's crazy talk

gear (gear), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

He was good in Adaptation, and Bringing Out the Dead was okay. On the other hand, there were a million, awful pieces of crap.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

that movie had one good scene in it (ie, John Goodman and backwards snow). Otherwise it MADE NO SENSE AT ALL

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

seriously dudes if you perfect this pre-judging method you may never have actually see a movie again

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

sorry that's "have to"

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

I ain't judgin nothin, but I can't say I have much desire to see it. It just doesn't sound interesting.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

dude bringing out the dead made perfect sense, it was just three days in the life of a batshit paramedic. nothing more, really.

gear (gear), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

i like it because it's one of the few more recent nicolas cage films that channels his old-school weirdness

gear (gear), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

Can we return to quoting JFK? We all agree it's got Stone's tastiest bon mots.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

seriously, why don't we drop this subject...it's one thing to engage in badinage with these youngsters, but this sort of thing could be so easily misunderstood.

gear (gear), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, bring those motherfuckers on with their college degrees!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 4 August 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't see it!

It's worth tracking down...

I just don't see the reason why the story needs to be retold with soundtrack music and special effects.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 4 August 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

It's not like the attack on Pearl Harbor was any better with Ben Affleck & Michael Bay.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 4 August 2006 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

Can we return to quoting JFK? We all agree it's got Stone's tastiest bon mots.

Only if I can quote from Nixon (which is just as tasty)

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 4 August 2006 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bob-hoskins.de/fotos/image/nixon_10.jpg

gear (gear), Friday, 4 August 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

There was an air of....I don't know, make-believe, in ILE.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 4 August 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

any celebrity cameos?
-- Zwan (anthonyisrigh...), August 4th, 2006. (miccio)


i heard there's a deleted scene where mel gibson plays a dude who notices all the jews leaving the towers 10 minutes before the first plane strikes.

timmy tannin (pompous), Saturday, 5 August 2006 01:18 (nineteen years ago)

of course its a drunken hallucination where the jews are pointed out by a naked indian

de latebloomer's 2015 youth crew revival (latebloomer), Saturday, 5 August 2006 01:54 (nineteen years ago)

con air dudes? c'mon.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 5 August 2006 01:55 (nineteen years ago)

robble:

yes armond white will love this film. during the review he'll rail against hipster critics who rip stone, compare it to united 93 which he will probably rip into, name-drop spielberg and mention 'war of the worlds' as a comparably great post-9/11 film, etc etc.

-- gear (speed.to.roa...) (webmail), July 20th, 2006 2:30 PM.


THE AMERICAN CHARACTER
Instead of fueling fear, WTC inspires with personal stories

By Armond White


World Trade Center

Directed by Oliver Stone

Oliver Stone does just about everything right in his 9/11 movie World Trade Center, a dramatic recreation of what happened to two Port Authority policemen on that unforgettable day. John McLoughlin (Nicolas Cage) and Will Jimeno (Michael Peña) were among the first-responders when the twin towers were struck. Helping to evacuate Tower One, their squad was trapped when the edifice collapsed. As McLoughlin and Jimeno lay buried in the rubble, Stone envisions the men’s desperate survival, the efforts by rescue teams determined to dig out any casualties, and the frantic anxiety of the men’s wives, Donna McLoughlin (Maria Bello) and Allison Jimeno (Maggie Gyllenhaal).

It is through Andrea Berloff’s screenplay that World Trade Center presents a well-thought-out view of the calamity. Berloff clarifies the event’s individual, social and domestic aspects. And Stone, with his practiced elucidation of Americans from various social strata caught up in political turmoil (war, big business, crime), recognizes how those different levels intertwine. This approach, rejecting United 93’s bogus docu-realism, never condescends to stroking our fears.

After 9/11, hucksters have had a huge opportunity to trick filmgoers who are unable to distinguish the solemnity of recent history from tacky Hollywood manipulation. During United 93, when I laughed at its preponderance of action-movie cliches, a middle-class woman chided me to “Be respectful!” Respectful of what? Clumsy exploitation-film mechanics! United 93 became an occasion for the nation’s media—and only a few, gullible ticket-buyers—to display self-righteous self-piety. Thankfully, Oliver Stone doesn’t go there. World Trade Center could really be about any public disaster, but Stone dignifies it by not over dramatizing its significance. He chooses to enlighten us about American character. Avoiding action-movie exploitation and specious docu-drama engenders absolute respect.

As film fiction, World Trade Center offers an interpretation of history. So it must operate just as Spielberg’s War of the Worlds did—turning real-life experience into symbol and metaphor. This is the proof of Stone’s intelligence and artistry.

The introductory sequence of different citizens preparing to work is a personalizing montage—it’s not anonymous-making like United 93, which turned characters into ciphers. (Director Paul Greengrass was clueless about the American quotidian and indifferent to his actors.) Stone gets it right that 9/11 was a blue-sky day but also a mundane, blue-collar day. His focus is on the diversity of the Port Authority’s public servants. This is not the all-white fraternity Mayor Giuliani posed with on the 9/15 episode of “Saturday Night Live”—propaganda that immediately re-wrote history in a homogeneous, jingoistic image. Stone shows one Port Authority officer receiving word of the terrorist attack from his wife who heard the news on hip-hop radio station HOT 97—a pluralizing, socially-credible correction to Giuliani’s political canard.

Stone refuses the class and race biases that pander to Patriotism. Instead, he commemorates McLoughlin and Jimeno’s unforeseeable trial as a shared social experience. Each scene in the rubble, on the streets and in the suburban homes may trigger your own, personal, isolating dread, yet Stone pushes for connection. Bypassing facile, demagogic homilies, he insists that the separate dramas compliment each other: Italian and Latino officers suffer and bond; both civilian and military volunteers join the rescue effort; and the two officers’ Catholic families, whether patriarchies or matriarchies, panic and pray in an ethnically distinct hubbub. These specifics are recognizable and necessary. Their freshness reveals how Hollywood customarily falsifies our social makeup or trivializes our common tragedies. Emboldened by the urgency of 9/11, Stone achieves a more honest sense of America’s urban mix than any from those New York-movie icons Martin Scorsese, Woody Allen and Spike Lee.

War of the Worlds set the high water mark for 9/11 movies through its similar depiction of community. Like Spielberg, Stone understands how catastrophe interrupts the conflicts of daily living. Separating 9/11 events from the quotidian would be misleading and a betrayal of the ultimate purpose of pop art. Stone recapitulates Spielberg’s wartime metaphor, turning World Trade Center into a hometown crusade. It’s not simply that the director of Platoon and Born on the Fourth of July prefers war narratives; Stone knows that we need the ritual of familiar myth. It reorients us to life suddenly gone beyond our ken, or turned stupefying.

Those core scenes of McLoughlin and Jimeno crushed under debris are ingenious. Recalling battle sequences in trenches or jungles, the men communicate through family stories, pop bromides and—when all else fails—sheer masculine camaraderie. (The salutation “brother” is coin of the realm.) Visually, the grim, collapsing dungeon—a pit within a pit—recalls the war tableau of Joseph Losey’s For King and Country, an exploration of the intricacies of political heroism. But here, Stone shows unexpected depth: knowing that 9/11 is not the moment to question patriotism (a pitfall for both the Right and Left), Stone turns to McLoughlin and Jimeno’s spiritual sustenance.

Both men’s marriages further reveal personality through intimacy and responsibility. These flashbacks are luminous and exacting, similar to Malick’s in The Thin Red Line, but here the women move fiercely—muses made real. In a corresponding gesture—but very bold for this politically correct era—Stone honors McLoughlin and Jimeno’s Catholic faith. He doesn’t let religion become a source of discord. In fact, there’s an extraordinary awareness of religious and political prerogative as germane to American individualism. This comes through in the subplot of Marine veteran Dave Karnes (played by Michael Shannon, his rectitude evoking Tom Berenger’s recruiting-poster GI image in Born on the Fourth of July). Karnes responds to the terrorist attack as a literal call to arms. He travels from his far-off town to the Towers site, following Semper Fi duty, to lend his hand. Like those lonely eccentrics in an Altman film, Karnes moves from narrative periphery to center and back. Solitary, and perhaps unknowable, he haunts our American pride. So Stone interweaves Karnes into Jimeno’s vision of Jesus—a salvation image that connects to McLoughlin remembering his wife. This multiplane sense of the spiritual life Americans hold in common is nearly miraculous—something only Griffith, Ford, Borzage, Clarence Brown and Spielberg would dare.

Each storyline in World Trade Center converges on the hellhole where McLoughlin and Jimeno lie imprisoned. (The wives obsess on that pit and at one audacious point, there’s even an intergalactic P.O.V.) As Stone thinks through 9/11, World Trade Center downplays tragic terrorism. Instead, he touches on existential despair, especially in a montage of empty commuter and subway trains followed by handmade posters of missing loved-ones. It’s the intellectual extension of McLoughlin and Jimeno being cast into “Hell” where one sees one’s mistakes (sins) and regrets; then longs for redemption.

Contemporary Hollywood typically uses horror scenarios that teach how to be shocked rather than to feel—stories that balk at the possibility of movies interpreting life. But World Trade Center profoundly summarizes America’s 9/11 experience—as when McLoughlin comes out of his torturous would-be grave. Faith then provides ecumenical deliverance: A symbolic congregation of hands reach down, pulling McLoughlin up, and he touches each one. That’s better than a mere memorial, better than any “official” Hollywood history editorial writers might call for. It’s an illustration of what we desperately need movies to provide.

gear (gear), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

This movie wasn't that good, but maybe -- not having read any reviews, and knowing the rest of Stone's work -- I was expecting something a little broader in scope. It didn't feel like a big, definitive movie about 9/11 as much as a TV movie about guys trapped in a coal mine. I liked United 93 much better.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 August 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

gear is "psychic"

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 21 August 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

Each storyline in World Trade Center converges on the hellhole where McLoughlin and Jimeno lie imprisoned. (The wives obsess on that pit and at one audacious point, there’s even an intergalactic P.O.V.)

wait waht?

on in the b.g. while you're grouting (stevie), Monday, 22 February 2010 10:18 (sixteen years ago)


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