Big Brother (UK 2006) - Why Don't You?

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Not Strictly A Big Brother Thread But A Thread For Discussing Interesting Things To Do Rather Than (Or Whilst) Watching Big Brother.

it hit me the other night that the upcoming BB season is 13 weeks times an hour a night of interesting, but pretty worthless, tv. so i thought i'd resolve to do something creative / productive in the Big Brother timeslot* and thought that other people might like to too.

some ideas:

Teeny posted something in the Hello Mudduh thread that involved A Painting A Day: http://kiddley.com/2006/05/06/8/
my artistic skills probably don't run to that, i'm more of a geometry kinda guy but...

NaNoWriMo and it's spinoffs, the solo album one. (again, not my thing, but a useful base)

have, as usual, several computery projects in my head. mostly they are nothing but eye candy, screensavers and the like. mainly involving robots. maybe wants something useful i could code up.

my videogame needs finishing. other people's video games (San Andreas for instance) needs finishing.

or just reading. ILX bookclub anyone? 8) (the new Neil Gaiman, 'Anansi Boys' looks good, last one was great.)

could even tidy my flat.

world peace

a digital photo per day (ok, easy option. could probably do this instead of watching those talk talk adverts for the millionth time.)

something collaborative? that last thing eno did is crying out for ripping off.

even watching something that isn't Big Brother will count (have 6/10ths of The Decalogue still to watch, for instance, and that dvd box set of The Outer Limits is v cheap in local WHSmiths) or just listening to that difficult 7th autechre LP again on the offchance it makes sense this time.

*not that i won't necessarily be watching it - a tv card means i can multitask any computery type things and there are lots of things i can do whilst the tv is on. i just want to avoid monging in front of the tv for an(other) hour a night.

so anyway. will post comments / progress / results here.

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

watching tv is a creative act

Viewers Liberation Movement (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure if I can participate, seeing as I don't even have a telly, but I resolve to practise my guitar for an hour every night - at least until my neighbours kill me.

The Minimal Criminal (kate), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Parallel Threads! Yeah!

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

I only have one room, one t.v and Mr R is committed to watching BB.

Pah.

Hour long bath with Magners and book.

Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

(sorry mark, i did think about your threads and worry about the spoiling effect but this isn't strictly a BB thread so thought it'd be ok. should've made the title clearer i guess).

watching tv is creative, yes, i say as much above. a lot of last year left a bad taste in my mouth though and i know i can do better things with the time.

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

No problem! Not me going pah.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

.. and even if it was: I'm not boss.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

hi dere

Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 18 May 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

ok. plan last night was to use Audacity and Freebirth (open source wav editor and open source Rebirth 808 simulator thing) and samples from the BB theme to throw together some bleepy madness. only i couldn't get a decent copy of sig tune due to the crowd noise so i settled for samples of davina and losing applicants ("I'm bubbly and fun" said in a voice that suggests neither, "SAUSAGES!"). was fun, but nothing came of it and i junked it. may come back to this later.

Went on to editing out the clicks from recent ebay vinyl purchase ("Alpha Proxima: Correlation" (more Technical Itch, The Early Years)) and writing it and a cd's worth of similarly editied wavs out to, er, cd. am listening to it now (T.I.C.: Rockers at the mo, Alpha Proxima next, Kode9 after that, Decoder to finish).

koogs (koogs), Friday, 19 May 2006 07:24 (nineteen years ago)

I thought Audacity and Freebirth were BB contestatnts :(

Crimea River (Mark C), Friday, 19 May 2006 08:42 (nineteen years ago)

even watching something that isn't Big Brother will count

World Cup to thread

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 19 May 2006 08:44 (nineteen years ago)

world cup's rubbish

RJG (RJG), Friday, 19 May 2006 08:44 (nineteen years ago)

Giving up BB to watch football is like giving up morphine to take smack.

The Minimal Criminal (kate), Friday, 19 May 2006 08:46 (nineteen years ago)

or good TV for boring TV ; )

RJG (RJG), Friday, 19 May 2006 08:47 (nineteen years ago)

BB7 isn't good TV.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 19 May 2006 08:53 (nineteen years ago)

i see them as around the same. BB is all about the people and how they get on. or not. WC is all about the teams, how they play as a team, how the country's culture comes out in how they play. it's all anthropology basically.

koogs (koogs), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:00 (nineteen years ago)

The World Cup is all about football, whereas BB7 is a deliberate freak show.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:03 (nineteen years ago)

You make football out to be a good thing!

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:05 (nineteen years ago)

is a deliberate freak show.

you've not seen what some of the players look like yet.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:05 (nineteen years ago)

The World Cup is all about football, whereas BB7 is a deliberate freak show.

You need to flick through a Panini sticker album.

haha xpost

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:06 (nineteen years ago)

presumably BB will get more threads than the World Cup tho (i am hoping for just one single glorious 3000 post World Cup thread).

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:07 (nineteen years ago)

OK, it was a nice idea to start this thread, Koogs, but it looks like it's going to be just one more thread about BB/football/whatever... instead of actually talking about whatever creative things people will be doing instead of participating in this massculture.

Too bad.

The Minimal Criminal (kate), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

TS Posting off-topic vs Posting about posting off-topic

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

OK, well if you like:

FOOTBALL AND BIG BROTHER BANNED FROM THREAD!

Right.

At some point, we're going to Venice for the weekend.

We were worried about how the kids would take to being left at Nana's for the weekend, but Alice asked me the other day with a smile "Are you excited about going to Venice? Can't wait?" I said "Yeah, but I *can* wait as we're still going to do some fun things till then"

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:17 (nineteen years ago)

Tonight I shall get drunk and miss b** b******. Tomorrow will be like today. On Sunday I have An Family Gathering that's very-important-not -to-miss apparently. So my BB fix will mainly be through reading the threads on here, which are often more fun.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

FOOTBALL AND BIG BROTHER BANNED FROM THREAD!

i thought you weren't the boss?

it's funny to single out BB as the worthless TV tho - is it really that much worse than 90% or more of everything else on TV? i probably won't watch it that much (too busy being creative already, darlings - the results of which are often already mentioned on ILX in some way) anyway but it's entertaining in drips and drops.

the other option when crap TV is on is to do something OUTDOORS (not necess. creative) e.g. playing sport instead of just watching it. need to get fit...

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:23 (nineteen years ago)

BB7 would have been immensely improved if they'd got in Alan Sugar, and then he decided who would be evicted and who would win in the end, though obviously they can't afford to lose the 'phone-in cash cow so that'll never happen.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:26 (nineteen years ago)

but i'm allergic to sunlight. the yellow face, it burnsss ussss. etc.

but yes, BB haters thread here:
People who watch Big Brother - classic or dud

koogs (koogs), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:31 (nineteen years ago)

I need to record a lot of old vinyl, as you have done koogs - plus minidisc material - maybe play around with it before encoding.

I wish I could think of something cweative to tie in with the World Cup.

Anyway, tonight's creative exercise will be cocktail experimentation.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:34 (nineteen years ago)

steve, don't know what to say except make sure to wipe the dust off before recording - takes less time that removing clicks that would otherwise result. and it does take forever, some of the ebay vinyl i've been buying has 3 or more clicks a second, 1000 over the course of a 6 minute track.

and i've remapped the number pad + and - to zoom in and out quickly. (with audacity you need to zoom all the way in be able to edit the waveform so i do a lot of it.)

that's ebay vinyl cd #8 with two or three more cds of albums as well. about 3 cds worth of new stuff on the floor waiting to be done and then i'll start redoing all the badly done old stuff. snore.

koogs (koogs), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:48 (nineteen years ago)

i need to buy a record player first!

tell us about your video game?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:52 (nineteen years ago)

a good start 8) these are the usual recommendations: http://shopping.kelkoo.co.uk/b/a/ss_turntable_project_debut.html although you strike me as more of a technics person.

http://www.koogy.clara.co.uk/tailgate/ (untouched for 3 weeks now what with haircuts and picnics and elephants)

koogs (koogs), Friday, 19 May 2006 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

What about that turntable with a USB out?

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 19 May 2006 10:05 (nineteen years ago)

What about that turntable with a USB out?

Ooh, I need one of these, seeing as how I've not got a stereo and have to run everything through the laptop/mixing desk.

The Minimal Criminal (kate), Friday, 19 May 2006 10:07 (nineteen years ago)

Approx £110, I think there's a picture in the back of Q mag.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 19 May 2006 10:11 (nineteen years ago)

ok. friday. made a card for friend matt's birthday out of an old record mailer and two different types of brown paper. stuck it together with pva glue that came with some old flat pack furniture. fun and only took 20 minutes. spent rest of hour burning him a couple of Peel Box cds. www.koogy.clara.co.uk/photos/mcard.jpg. happy accident - the side with the writing on was meant to be the back but it stood up better when it was the front but i actually like the way it looks. the fragile sticker gives it some colour.

saturday. have spent all day catching up on tv and feeding things into computer for later editing down (mainly BBC Radiophonic Workshop 4x10" thing that came out on Rephlex a year or so ago) so i'm taking it easy. it's actually on as i type but tv is behind me so i'm only really getting the sound. "Wankers!"

koogs (koogs), Saturday, 20 May 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

spent sunday's show (most of sunday evening in fact) learning enough Python (and OpenGL vertex arrays) to cobble together a little something that'll let me read a file full of 3d coordinates (possible thousands, currently 27) and display them in a window that'll let me rotate them and zoom in. was about 200 lines in the end, 150 of which i took from elsewhere. (it's the second part of this http://draves.org/HyperNews/get.cgi/flame/1754.html, first part is yet to be written (although probably not in python. the displayer had to be OpenGL and cross-platform and PyOpengl seemed the best idea))

koogs (koogs), Monday, 22 May 2006 08:33 (nineteen years ago)

Got sent a copy of Peel's Final Perfumed Garden a week or two ago. spent monday night doing a cover for it (using photos from here: http://www.offshore-radio.de/NF51.htm) and burning a copy onto cd:
http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3395785

only to find out that all the track names are full of ampersands and spaces and dashes and are too long for standard cds (burning software happily truncated names at 64(!) characters but this meant that the m3u files were now wrong). everything was .doc format as well. proprietary formats are a scourge, i tell ye.

spent tuesday night renaming everything (converted everything to xml and wrote xslt to create a file full of renames. was going to use same xml to generate m3u files before realising i could just use ls and redirect output to a file) and doing another cover using pictures from here http://www.radiolondon.co.uk/otherwaves/peelradioone/peelclippings2.html and here http://www.kindred-spirit.co.uk/imagedetail.php?picid=13650
(my eyes, that shirt!)

2nd, better, sleeve is here: http://www.koogy.clara.co.uk/photos/PerfumedGardenSleeve.png
(is correct size for a cd wallet at 100dpi)

sometimes it's amazing what you can do in an hour. other times it's amazing what little you can do.

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 11:19 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know how I ever managed to live with a TV. I am so unproductive as it is, usually I just eat my dinner and then go to bed. Maybe watch a DVD (ie instead of BB I have caught up with/discovered Terry Nation's Survivors (Lost for the British middle classes?), also watched A Man for All Seasons and Excalibur. Can't say that the latter was a better use of my time than BB though, it sucks balls.)

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

have continued with this but it's mostly been the digital equivalent of filing. am 6/8th of the way through converting Radiophonic LP to cd (pleasantly surprised at the complete lack of needle nosie on these. something to do with the vinyl weight? 10" size? simple electronic nature of source?) and another couple of eBay 12"s (TI033 yesterday, er, Subwave, Russian dnb). Watched tv, 2 episodes of Kieslowski's Decalogue, 2 of Millennium. Fed some tv stuff (Hollywood Science) into computer for australian friend.

Saturday i decided that all my mp3s needed to be grouped by genre just to make it more manageable. this took a while because half the main mp3 directory is on one disk, the mixed mp3s are eleswhere and the various artists stuff are somewhere else again. then i had to do the same to the backup on the other pc. then i deleted a bunch of stuff from the work pc to make space for new stuff then spent another couple of hours ripping that new stuff (mainly mix cds ripped as single disk-length mp3s - i hate it when tracks from mix cds turn up in a shuffle)

Couple of hours Monnday (and some of Sunday) was spent on this:
http://www.koogy.clara.co.uk/photos/robots.png
(robots2.png is bigger) - unicycling 3d robots. can't quite get the colours working at the moment and there needs to be more detail and more robot types to make it interesting, and a bit more animation, but the bones are there and they move quite nicely. the only creative thing i did all weekend, the rest was filing / tidying.

koogy wonderland (koogs), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 09:16 (nineteen years ago)


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