'08 Republican Presidential Candidate Speculation

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why not start now?

a friend of mine is convinced Newtie's gonna pull it out, but I don't really see it. (Has a Rep. EVER been elected to the White House...?) Other obvious candidates - Huckabee, Frist, tons of others.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

we already have this thread.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

Your 2008 Presidential Candidate Speculation Thread

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

haha - sorry for some reason I thought that thread was restricted to Dems.

kill thread pls

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

Has a Rep. EVER been elected to the White House

James Madison, James Garfield, William McKinley, Richard Nixon, George H.W. Bush...can anyone name the rest? That's all I can remember off the top of my head.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

Garfield was the last House member to be elected president.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

uh, Nixon was veep, so was GHWB etc. - yr misunderstanding my question. The point is that Newt has NEVER held an office higher than a Representative.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

x-post - sorry, I think Pleasant Plains has answered my question...

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

oh, I see. Sorry. Carry on...

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

only two Senators have been elected since Garfield, so I don't see any argument from history that a prominent-enough House member would be particularly worse off than a Senator

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

and Newt isn't a house member any more

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

george allen or mike huckabee. i really think it's a lock for one of those two.

p@reene (Pareene), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

That's really an amazing and overlooked fact, gabbneb.

(And coincidentally (?), both elected senators died in office before their first term expired.)

I'd bet even money that Huck will be the running mate to the eventual presidential nominee.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

though allen could have a race/domestic violence-based meltdown that might sink him. my worst nightmare is a huckabee/pawlenty ticket. how douchebaggy would that be?

p@reene (Pareene), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

i think Pawlenty's stock has fallen sufficiently that he's out of the picture now

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

(Whoops. Benjiman Harrison was a senator, too.)

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, there were three, i read too fast

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

but Harrison wasn't 20th century

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

george allen or mike huckabee. I think this is exactly right.

Although a former (insane) neighbor of mine keeps writing letters to the local paper advocating Norm Coleman. (even worse than Tim Pawlenty)

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

and Harrison's "front porch" campaign was run from home in Indiana

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, I just assumed McCain was the man to beat.

pleased to mitya (mitya), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

C'mon Jeb!

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's McCain or Jeb with Allen in reserve, and I'll include Romney because enough serious people mention him. Huckabee seems to be on the outs with the backroom guys, and while I think he could make a big grassroots push, that's now how the GOP does things.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

re: Jeb. So all this "I ain't gonna run" stuff is really just dissembling...? It seems possible/likely, but at the same time why would he be eager to clean up little brother's messes, and the way things are going, won't the whole Dubya clan be more of a liability than a boon in '08?

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

McCain will destroy himself by late '07. He's lost the respect of the entire press corps and they're currently in love w/ Allen/Huckabee. Anti-Bush sentiment will likely be still too strong to allow for Jeb. Pawlenty's not really very likely, i agree, but it still keeps me up a night.

Oh, and Romney. We might've reached the point where anyone with any intense religious beliefs can win the evangelical christian vote, but i'm not entirely convinced.

p@reene (Pareene), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

the press does seem to have turned on McCain, I agree. I'm unfamiliar with Allen.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

Jeb's chances at the polls will be hurt by the fact that 10% of Americans would probably think it was Dubya running again.

pleased to mitya (mitya), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Allen_(politician)

His father George Herbert Allen was a legendary NFL coach who was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2002. His mother was a French immigrant.

Allen's younger sister Jennifer Allen alleges in her memoir Fifth Quarter: The Scrimmage of a Football Coach's Daughter that Allen visited sadistic attacks on his younger siblings during his childhood. She claims that Allen held her by her feet over Niagara Falls; struck her boyfriend in the head with a pool cue; threw his brother Bruce through a glass sliding door; tackled his brother Gregory, breaking his collarbone; and dragged Jennifer upstairs by her hair. In the book, she wrote, "George hoped someday to become a dentist . . . George said he saw dentistry as a perfect profession--getting paid to make people suffer."

these things are not boding so well for george allen's presidential aspirations.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

that's nothing. wouldn't even be a bump in the road.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/blogphotos/Blog_CEI_Carbon_Dioxide.jpg

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 18 May 2006 23:24 (nineteen years ago)


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