Report Says BBC should sell off Radio One & Radio Two : Should They?

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I hate commercial radio , same old playlists but with regional presenters to make it look local, but owned by the one big company and think this is a bad idea. But will any government go for it?

What BBC.co.uk readers Think

What says ILX?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 22 May 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

I say they should. Both R1 and R2 are little more than glorified commercial stations these days and I wouldn't listen to either out of active choice. I don't really see why stations indistinguishable from Kiss or XFM or Virgin should be publicly funded.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 22 May 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

they've kind of mugged themselves by trying to out-mersh the commercial stations. i think r1 should go, just to piss on chris moyles' chips.

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

No. On the basis that Kelvin MacKenzie thinks it's a good idea.

― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm, R1 go commercial, DJs get raise..

How would that piss Moyles off?

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

would he get a raise?

i dunno. he ought to be shot.

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Moyles would be picked up immediately by some commercial station so I doubt whether his chips would be pissed on however, with any luck that commercial station would be unavailable in my area...

But even so, this is not a good idea. And who is the European Media Forum anyway? Something funded by Murdoch perchance?

― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

I think they are distinctive from commercial radio, but not distinctive enough. I'd rather see them given a new direction than flogged.

― Brian Furry (noodle vague), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

Aha! The author of the report...
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Keith_Boyfield

― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

it would annoy moyles because for him being on the bbc is being at the cockpit of the nation, and no commercial station will ever hold that position.

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

To enrich people’s lives with programmes and services that inform, educate and entertain.

Everything I've heard about this selling-off story so far has been focusing on what is or isn't worthy about R1 and R2 but, though I personally like neither, I cannot argue they don't entertain rather a lot of people.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

Author of report also in favour of ~"well heeled" people shooting rhinos.

― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

Come to think of it, I like the big band stuff on Sunday afternoons on R2.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

...though I personally like neither, I cannot argue they don't entertain rather a lot of people.

But so do the commercial stations and they have to make their own way. I don't think there's really any public servive justification for R1 and R2 any more. Flog 'em.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

The Nuremberg rallies entertained rather a lot of people in their time.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

This would be the first step towards the ghettoization of the BBC into only dull worthy material, the way National Public Radio and Public Television are in the US. The National Association of Broadcasters lobbied hard and successfully in the 1930's to forbid publicly-funded radio stations from advertising; it was sold as high-mindedness, but its intention was to weaken nonprofit stations financially and create two tiers of service: one with money and glitz, and one without. I think a move like this would hasten the day this happens to the BBC, which would be terrible.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

they shld be sold to dj martian

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

The Nuremberg rallies entertained rather a lot of people in their time.

Hitler was funnier than Moyles.

― Brian Furry (noodle vague), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

Carpark Catchphrase - "Sieg heil!"

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

Key quote: "Why should advertisers go to commercial radio when they're missing 60% of the audience?"

BBC audience = virgin oil fields; "end this protectionism"

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

they shld be sold to dj martian
-- Ward Fowler (wardfowle...), May 22nd, 2006.

hahaha!

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

Why should advertisers go to commercial radio when they're missing 60% of the audience?

Maybe 60% of the audience don't want to listen to a station with adverts.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

XFM has better DJs than Radio 1 these days. I mean, Eddy Temple Morris!

"FUTURE FUNK SQUAD OH! MY! GODMAN! IT'S THE BIGGEST THING SINCE PENDULUM! PEOPLE! YOU NEED THIS!"

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

I wanted to put forward an argument for keeping Radios 1 & 2 in the public domain until I realised there wasn't a single programme on either station that I would deliberately want to tune into these days. So they can go. But only if we get to see Kelvin McKenzie strung up until he dies live on the National Lottery on a Saturday night.

Moyles should be sold off to the British meat industry.

― Venga (Venga), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

Bearing in mind Capital has had to slash its advertising space to try and win back listeners, I'd say Billy could be right.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

XFM became unlistenable for me in the evenings largely because of the adverts (unlistenable in the daytime for the music) in the end. can imagine 1 and 2 losing listeners if they were sold and resorted to advertising.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

Most Radio 1 listeners wouldn't like the sort of things I listen to. I'm happy for this particular venn diagram to have no overlap.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

The whole Matthew Bannister overhaul of R1 in the mid-90s was an attempt to stave off the spectre of privatisation by making R1 a station specifically targeted at the 16-25s, something which did not exist in the commercial sector at the time. Although that was before the rise of Kiss and XFM, so even that reasoning may not save R1's arse this time round.

― Venga (Venga), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

Surely Chris Moyles contains enough reserves of crude oil to fund the station for the next 50 years.

― Brian Furry (noodle vague), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

Perhaps R1 and R2 should have their remits changed so they aren't trying to be commercial, so they do have to be more public service minded thereby keeping them different from those awful advertising based stations.

Most people who want to sell them just don't want to pay a license fee. They wouldn't realise how good the BBC is until its too late and radio/tv would be a mess.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

The point being, the BBC isn't actually very good at the moment. At least, not in terms of radio. Thus Radio 2 pensions off all its specialist presenters because it's got an obsession with "celebrity" presenters regardless of whether they're actually any good at the job or not.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

they do have to be more public service minded

I haven't listened recently but, bearing in mind the time of year, I suspect R1 are filling in between songs with plenty of revision and exam-related jingles. Maybe they also have a Radio 1 Action Line for this. Correct me if I'm wrong.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

I almost never listen to the radio any more, apart from football commentary, unless I'm driving a long way and I'm sick of listening to my ipod, then I just surf endlessly through the stations, changing station every couple of minutes, trying to escape the crap adverts / crap music / tedious talk.

― Teh HoBBercraft (the pirate king), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

Celebrity DJs:

Mike Harding
Suzi Quatro
Desmond "six times Isle of Man TT winner" Carrington
J Ross
Craig Charles
Elaine Paige
Sarah Kennedy
Vernon Kay

They are all pretty rubbish, but only one is a proper celebrity, with one of them up and coming.

I bet they have celebrity DJs on commercial radio too, althouhg I can only think of Chris Tarrant and Johnny Wotsit on Capital.

Oh, and Vanessa Phelps on BBc Radio London.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

R1 is a bit smashie and nicey at the moment. Well a younger brother or son version.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

You missed Sarah Cox, Colin and Edith, all of which had TV presence before moving to radio.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, it's a bit chicken and egg, eg WOGAN.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

isn't the funds allocated to the radio stations quite a small proportion of the license fee as a whole.

Also while i'm not the biggest fan of either radio 1 or 2 but anyone who geniunely thinks they are exactly the same as commercial stations obvivously doesnt listen to either.

Admitably there are overlaps in music policy, but i think thats somewhat inevitable, anyone who's ever dj-ed in a club people generally don't like listening to music they don't really know, or at least seems familar.

Both 1 and 2 seem to play the music first, its the commercial stations which follow the beeb.

If the competition for r1 is xfm and kiss i think all three offer quite different and distinct programming,

and radio 2 who are there competitors virgin and magic maybe ? again if you actually listen to the stations what they offer is actually quite different.

i think they ought to exist even if its for the stuff they do around other than the station itself, the onelive events, coverage of events which would get exposure otherwise etc

that said i think these kind of challenges are kind of helpful as the license is essentially a tax the beeb should be subject to scutiny

― secondhandnews (secondhandnews), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

As I said people just dont want to pay the license fee.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

Well, if it's just about the licence fee, they'd have to scrap BBC TV as well?

I fail to see how radio stations who have 60% of the audience share between them aren't providing a public service. They are providing radio stations that the majority of people who want to listen to radio want to listen to.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Well in the US, ailsa, consensus has condensed around that idea - that popularity = "the public interest", a sly semantic shift that says "if the public is interested in it, then we are upholding our public service commitment", a move that simultaneously, er, devalorizes, low-rated yet quality shows.. under the above rubric, if your numbers aren't good, how can you say you're operating in the public interest?

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

> You missed Sarah Cox, Colin and Edith, all of which had TV presence before moving to radio.

does The Girly Show and RI:SE count as tv presence? 8)

― koogs (koogs), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

and did the girly show come before or after her breakfast show stint?

― secondhandnews (secondhandnews), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

service remits: BBC's Statements of Programme Policy (SoPPs) were announced earlier this month

radio 1
http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/statements2006/radio/radio1.shtml

radio 2
http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/statements2006/radio/radio2.shtml

6 music
http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/statements2006/radio/radio6music.shtml

1xtra
http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/statements2006/radio/radio1xtra.shtml

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

way before (xpost)

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

i'll quite happily pay not to hear ads.

― pisces (piscesx), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

Ailsa if you read those bbc.co.uk comments that i linked to you will see most people who support this idea just complain about the "excessive license fee".

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I read some of the comments and then decided to form an opinion of my own. My opinion being that the licence fee will still exist as long as BBC TV still exists. It covers BBC TV, radio and web output, and I don't see that getting shot of the radio stations will make a difference to it.

Other people (me included, FWIW) seem quite happy to keep paying the licence fee to continue to get all the services that the BBC provides. Swings and roundabouts, innit.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

As a basic principle: Murdoch's papers campaign against the licence fee. Anything Murdoch is against must be good. Ergo, the licence fee is good.

― Brian Furry (noodle vague), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

It's purely because of their success that ppl want these two spun off, which is a terrible precedent: Don't be *too* successful, BBC, or we'll lop off the bits that are doing well. Why should public funding mean only doing things the public don't want?

If R1/R2 weren't costing the corporation money what would they spend it on? Not more popular things, because they'll just get lopped. So dull things. Then the BBC will become so tedious that nobody will support the licence fee, and we'll have killed something of excellence. Hmph.

― stet (stet), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

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― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

ILX is not public funded. And yet, how wonderful is it?

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

Grimly, BBC Scotland is not woeful at all. Still Game is streets ahead of any "comedy" output from elsewhere in the BBC these days. Local interest programmes are often fantastic, there is no way on God's earth any other channel would come up with "That Was The Team That Was" which was one of the highlights of my TV-watching year so far. Scottish music programming, if you like that kind of thing, is done well - there was a cracking wee tribute programme to Aly Bain on last week, and I think I'm right in saying it was BBC Scotland that came up with the Transatlantic Sessions ago. My mum would be lost without the Beechgrove Garden.

OK, these aren't to everyone's taste, but I'm glad I live in a place where they still get made.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

Going further back: Tutti Frutti, Takin' Over The Asylum, A Mug's Game, Rab C Nesbitt, The High Life, some utterly astonishing one-off dramas. Let's compare that against, erm, Taggart, shall we?

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

isn't still game produced by the "comedy unit", though? which is an independent company?

so all that really means is that someone at BBC scotland's got a good sense of humour and a half-decent chequebook. w00t.

and yes, your list of "old" BBC scotland stuff v "new" BBC scotland stuff is indeed depressing, and kinda proves my point: that the whole thing is a pale shadow of what it used to/should be.

but fuck it. i'm (unhappily) paying my licence fee - or rather mrs fiendish is - and everybody else is still happy, so ... why prolong what is rapidly becoming a rather dull argument?

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

(by which i mean: i'm boring myself.)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Ronnie Corbett being roasted

and now you've given ME images...

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

isn't still game produced by the "comedy unit", though? which is an independent company?

haha, my original post actually contained the phrase "you're going to go off on one about the Comedy Unit and I don't care because ultimately it's BBC Scotland that gets in on teh telly" in parentheses, but I thought better of it.

I didn't do "old BBC" v "new BBC" btw, I listed things I liked about the BBC and struggled to think of anything Scottish Television has done to match any of it. You don't like it != it's shit.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

in = it (second line). Drinking in the afternoon = badness.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

Wow you're getting into this unemployment thing really quickly!

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Stressful big interview earlier = medicinal glass of wine required.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Wine & Deal Or No Deal. Who needs jobs?

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Deal or No Deal is on teh commercial telly! It's evil and wrong!!

(I've just finished watching it, and turned over to teh Beeb for thread evaluation purposes. There's something on called Totally Doctor Who, which is like a junior version of the Apprentice for geeky kids to join the "companionship academy". It's both compelling, yet tragic)

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Remeber that the Beeb of The Good Old Days paid Noel Edmonds to make crap popular telly shows. I think Celebrity Fitness Dancing On Ice Brother Academy is a slight imporvement on Blobby and Gunk Tanks.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Remember*

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

shopped_mr_blobby_on_never_forget.jpg

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Remember that the Beeb of The Good Old Days...

Yeah, but they also *made* The Good Old Days! Turn of the century music hall fun down at the Old Bull and Bush!

(someone's going to invoke the Black & White Minstrels soon, aren't they? I'm not saying it's all fantastic, but Noel Edmonds = the shit that people watch, but they are still allowed to get on with making the good stuff too)

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

While on a chazzing adventure, I came across a copy of the Black And White Minstrels LP in the Hyndland Road Marie Curie shop. Oh dear. Seeing as Aidan Moffat lives just around the corner, expect samples of said LP to appear on the next L Pierre album. Or maybe not...

I've got the Weekly Politics on next door. It's got Mark Mardell's political funnies! And Andrew Neil's continually evolving and amusing hairpiece. Now tell me a commercial channel would produce such a thing. Okay, not counting the funny bit on that STV late night Hollyrood show.

― Stew (stew s), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

Ailsa you missed City Lights in your list.
Who made The Vital Spark ?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 25 May 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

Ailsa you missed City Lights in your list.

I missed lots of things in my list. I'm not the fucking encyclopaedia of BBC Scotland, I listed some things that I liked. i also didn't mention Hamish MacBeth (which I really liked), Sea of Souls, Monarch of the Glen, Balamory, Chewing the Fat, The Karen Dunbar Show, Only an Excuse, McCoist & McAuley, that crappy Jo Brand-fronted panel game that one of my friends made me go and see once, Athletico Partick...

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 26 May 2006 06:18 (nineteen years ago)

Hi what about the Lesley Riddoch show too. I know she's unbearable but as call-in shows go it was quality.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 26 May 2006 06:37 (nineteen years ago)

I only listen to Radio Scotland for the football. But I know my mum's world would be a poorer place without Take The Floor with Robbie Shepherd.

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 26 May 2006 07:09 (nineteen years ago)

Radio Clyde is unbearable for the football.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 26 May 2006 07:40 (nineteen years ago)

Radio Clyde was great in the '70s! Dougie Donnelly playing Ornette and Beefheart at drivetime! What happened?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 26 May 2006 07:43 (nineteen years ago)

Actually radio Clyde is just unbearable full stop.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 26 May 2006 07:47 (nineteen years ago)

I'm telling you! (copyright: Tiger Tim Stevens, if he's still alive)

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 26 May 2006 07:49 (nineteen years ago)

He's still alive, still croaking away of an evening, completely out of touch with everyone that phones into his show, bless him.

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 26 May 2006 08:05 (nineteen years ago)

But, to get back to the topic in hand, Radio Clyde gets plenty of listeners to its football coverage to make it a viable alternative to the Beeb in West Central Scotland, make money via advertising and whatever else it needs to do to keep going. Fair enough. Perhaps not enough people want to listen to Bill McAllister making bad topical jokes whilst reviewing the Highland League, or listen to the shinty roundup with Hugh Dan McLennan. But some people do, and I'm glad that a service exists that allows them to do that. If it was all about teh money and success it would be wall-to-wall Old Firm coverage because that's where the majority interest lies in the West of Scotland and screw the rest of you non-Old Firm/non-SPL/rugby/shinty fans because you don't number enough to care about.

(sorry for parochial ranting, but regional programming is one of the things I like about the Beeb)

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 26 May 2006 08:11 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/aboutus/wirelesstoweb/media/80s/untied_shoelaces.ram

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 26 May 2006 08:14 (nineteen years ago)

Couldn't agree more with Ailsa!!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 26 May 2006 08:27 (nineteen years ago)

How does that explain the wall-to-wall football coverage (duplicating 5 Live) which now dominates BBC Radio London?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 26 May 2006 08:29 (nineteen years ago)

No idea, I've never listened to it. Told you I was parochial :-)

When I say I like the regional programming, I mean the regional programming up here. I recognise that regional programming can vary from region to region - and BBC Scotland is nowhere near to producing the quality it did a few years ago, but I imagine it would be worse still if left to the mercy of the market forces.

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 26 May 2006 08:32 (nineteen years ago)

Chewin The Fat started on Radio Scotland didn't it?
I remember hearing The Mary Whitehouse Experience on R1 back in the early 90s?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 26 May 2006 08:42 (nineteen years ago)

I say bring back Radio Tip Top.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:02 (nineteen years ago)

I say bring back The Untied Shoelaces Show. I like to think that some BBC Scotland bods sat with hangovers watching the Saturday morning drivel spewing out of London and thought "we could do better than that" - then commissioned it before they sobered up properly.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:04 (nineteen years ago)

I seem to recall a terrible Tiger Tim Stevens BBC Scotland Roadshow thing that went out in the school holidays in the late '70s/early '80s. His glamorous assistant was Blythe Duff Out Of Taggart.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:07 (nineteen years ago)

BBC Scotland was responsible for Fully Booked, FBi and one of the other Saturday morning networked Saturday morning shows as well, weren't they?

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:10 (nineteen years ago)

No73 ran for 5 years!

wtf

(sorry for Sat morning derail but did kids really tune in for 5 years to watch Sandi Toksvig?)

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:14 (nineteen years ago)

I thought she was ace!

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:15 (nineteen years ago)

It does boggle the mind though...when you think about what Sat morning kids TV presenters are like today.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

BBC Scotland also wins for Tartan Shorts, which has produced some wonderful wee films over the years (and an Oscar win for Peter Capaldi).

Sandi Toksvig v Dick and Dom. Hmmm...

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

BBC Scotland was responsible for Fully Booked, FBi and one of the other Saturday morning networked Saturday morning shows as well, weren't they?

Grammatical pedants to thread!

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, you should have said "wasn't they?"

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:26 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, "amirite?" would have sufficed, I guess :-)

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:28 (nineteen years ago)

BBC Scotland produces pretty much all the Beeb's children's output.

Investigations editor Bob Wylie deserves some props, especially for the time he ended a report on gun crime holding an Uzi.

― Stew (stew s), Friday, 26 May 2006 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

six years pass...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/feb/25/radio-1-playlist-livetweets-hurts

― Vote in the ILM 70s poll please! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

Well, as the article says, they can't play absoulutely everything.

It's just that they could do it a lot better than they're doing - and that goes for 6Music as well as R1 & R2.

BBC needs to stop reacting to everybody and start creating.

― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

sp: "absolutely"

― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

do you still want to privatise R1 & 2?

― Vote in the ILM 70s poll please! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

Yes. They've had plenty of chances to prove why they shouldn't be.

― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

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