― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 25 May 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 25 May 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)
Unconscious echoing is inevitable and increasingly can be anticipated. An example occurs in Alain de Botton's Status Anxiety, where the author writes: "There are few successes more unendurable than those of our close friends.'' If this sounds like a sentiment that, say, Oscar Wilde might have expressed, it is because in 1881 he did: "Anybody can sympathise with the sufferings of a friend, but it requires a very fine nature to sympathise with a friend's success."
Gore Vidal, for his part, offered this variation in 1973: "Whenever a friend succeeds, a little something inside me dies.'' Moreover, Wilde's phrase was subsequently adapted by the British pop singer Morrissey in his song We Hate It When Our Friends Become Successful. De Botton does not credit Wilde, Vidal or Morrissey, and there is no reason why he should. After all, what they are all expressing here is something that is universally true and presumably always has been.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 May 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)
"Whenever a friend succeeds, a little something in me dies" – Gore Vidal, The Sunday Times Magazine, 16 Sept 1973
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 25 May 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)
― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Thursday, 25 May 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)
The sentiment itself is one I've fallen prey to at times, but mostly over matters of personal happiness rather than fame, fortune, etc. (in large part because most of my friends don't suffer from the problem of too much money to spend and all that).
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 May 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 25 May 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)
― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)
― Crimea River (Mark C), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)
Friends' success based on decisions you don't like -- when they're successful based on doing something you find lame -- that surely breeds resentment, since in some small stupid sense it's a "betrayal."
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 25 May 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)
― Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Thursday, 25 May 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 25 May 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)
― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 25 May 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)
Yus. In many ways I think I'm getting to a really nice place with my own writing -- and in other areas as well -- that I would not have been able to be at earlier. Taking it reasonably easy but always trying to keep busy as I go is yet paying dividends.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 May 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)
This is made worse when after 6 months he gets called into his boss's office, gets a massive raise and a promotion - when I (and most everybody in the industry) has had to work like a dog for at least year only to be given a modest salary adjustment when you finally goad your superiors into taking care of your performance review.
Fuck i hate him.
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 25 May 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)