"Cisco Pike" -- the great lost LA film?

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Haven't seen it, haven't ever HEARD of it until just a few minutes ago. But I stumbled across this story on the LA Times website and now I'm honestly intrigued, in that I especially enjoyed this description of its appeal:

It belongs in a pantheon of films—along with "Sunset Boulevard," "Mi Vida Loca" and "Valley Girl"—that have managed to capture in-the-moment pieces of the L.A. landscape that are no more.

Also, it seems like total LOL Thomas fodder in particular, not to mention JBR and S1ocki, so them to thread? It's out on DVD now, at least.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 28 May 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

Don't be silly Ned. If you've never heard of it, IT DOES NOT EXIST. It's obviously an elaborate practical joke.

Lara (Lara), Sunday, 28 May 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

I am shamed. :-/

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

And by the LA Times! Tsk.

Lara (Lara), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

*throws self into ocean*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

The coward's response is to go swimming when he should be facing the music, Ned. I am sorry for playing on your serious thread :)

Lara (Lara), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

Hahahah. :-) Don't apologize!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

this looks interesting! i'm going to rent it!

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

it's not very good!

gear (gear), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

imho

gear (gear), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

Style over substance?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:33 (nineteen years ago)

it's just sort of blah, like the mediocre cousin to who'll stop the rain

gear (gear), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

for weird lost l.a. films i have to mention the hidden and to live and die in l.a., the latter of which probably isn't that lost anymore.

gear (gear), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

the hidden! with kyle machlachlan?

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 29 May 2006 02:23 (nineteen years ago)

i have a friend who's always nursed a dream of staging a theatrical production of to live and die in la. i am to play the john pankow role.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 29 May 2006 02:25 (nineteen years ago)

lol thomas sez it showed last year at the aero and the director and viva were there answering questions. he also says "it's terrific!"

helix aspersa (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 May 2006 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

"it" being cisco pike, not TLADILA.

helix aspersa (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 May 2006 02:32 (nineteen years ago)

Oh god, if only it was titled TLADILA. Sounds like an Aztec god's nickname.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 May 2006 03:33 (nineteen years ago)

tenochtitladila

helix aspersa (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 May 2006 04:08 (nineteen years ago)

New at Taco Bell

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 May 2006 04:12 (nineteen years ago)

I don't remember much about this. Gene Hackman's character is sort of bizarro.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 29 May 2006 04:37 (nineteen years ago)

it's interesting, worth seeing for sure. I saw it 5(?) years ago. IIRC, it was a first time director, fresh out of film school, and it sort of shows in a few awkward scenes, but overall it's solid, props to KK and some of the support players (Harry Dean Stanton). it has cool footage of venice Beach and environs, and a sleazy take on the music scene, and definitely one of those "the 60s are over, here comes the hangover" vibes. Hackman's character is more annoying than menacing really, that was one of the flaws. It's a curio, but decent if you dig that whole "New Hollywood" deal of the early 70s.

timmy tannin (pompous), Monday, 29 May 2006 04:46 (nineteen years ago)

im seeing it soon!

chaki (chaki), Monday, 29 May 2006 08:22 (nineteen years ago)

the hidden w/kyle, yes!

one of my fondest l.a. "movie location" bits was driving down yucca ave heading towards gower and realizing that i was driving the same route as the black ferrari right before it crashed into the police roadblock. i felt "as one" with chris mulkey for a brief moment.

gear (gear), Monday, 29 May 2006 08:23 (nineteen years ago)

but that moment marked your passage into manhood. call it an LA bar mitzvah.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 29 May 2006 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

Cisco Pike is featured in Los Angeles Plays Itself too - I know some folks here have seen it.

it's just sort of blah, like the mediocre cousin to who'll stop the rain

I give it more credit than that, but they're all "death of the hippie dream flicks"

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Monday, 29 May 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Cisco Pike often turns up on late-night TV in the UK - heartwarming cameo from Doug Sahm

the real 'great lost LA film' = Greaser's Palace

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 06:43 (nineteen years ago)

the real 'great lost LA film' = Greaser's Palace

Enhh... I'd have to vote Model Shop for "great lost LA film"

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

my vote for "great lost LA film" goes to:

Superstar - The Karen Carpenter Story

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

you would say that

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:57 (nineteen years ago)

Cisco Pike is better than Model Shop, tho MS is a very interesting failure (and it has Anouk Aimee, so it's automatically worth watching)

timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:16 (nineteen years ago)

guess what just arrived from netflix!

sometimes it takes an earthquake to know where the fault lies (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

'the cowboy way'!

gear (gear), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

'another stakeout'!

gear (gear), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

close

sometimes it takes an earthquake to know where the fault lies (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
SAW THIS YESTERday afternoon at the new bev. it WAS awesome! it totally lived up to the hype. the locations were awesome. the preggy stoner chick was kick ass. it was just so fucking satisfying! and theres this awesome rock/ mariachi band in it! oh and fucking huggy bear playing huggy bear!

Moonwalkbjrain (chaki), Monday, 17 July 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

That preggy stoner chick was ex-Andy Warhol superstar Viva, who also pops up in Midnight Cowboy & Play It Again Sam.

Our Vicki Carr Club (Charles McCain), Monday, 17 July 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

yah shes rad

Moonwalkbjrain (chaki), Monday, 17 July 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...
(Welcome to my attempt at the worst revive ever)

IT nerd news! Today, Cisco revealed their new logo!

http://www.frederiksamuel.com/blog/images/cisco_logo.jpg

StanM (StanM), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

very web 2.0.

real savage-like (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

one of my fondest l.a. "movie location" bits was driving down yucca ave heading towards gower and realizing that i was driving the same route as the black ferrari right before it crashed into the police roadblock. i felt "as one" with chris mulkey for a brief moment

This post just gave me a flashback to the time I walked into the army surplus store in Silver Lake and realized it was the store from Falling Down.

Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Monday, 2 October 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

A web 2.0 logo revision that I actually like! Go figure...

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 2 October 2006 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

his post just gave me a flashback to the time I walked into the army surplus store in Silver Lake and realized it was the store from Falling Down.

That surplus store was only 15-20 meters downhill from the original location of Amok Books. When I saw Falling Down I recognized that store immediately.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 2 October 2006 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

seven months pass...

finally got around to seeing this - I enjoyed it quite a bit actually. I like the "guy wanders around LA meeting various weirdos" genre, its a rich tradition.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

i'd wager that those who liked cisco pike would also like straight time -- dustin hoffman newly sprung from jail and hanging around seedy 1977 l.a. doing crimes with harry dean stanton and gary busey, and screwing a 19-year-old theresa russell. it came out on dvd recently, and showed tonight at the los angeles film festival, with dustin, harry dean, theresa, the director, and the DP giving a talk afterwards. also in attendance was the real-life ex-con who "designed" the action in the robbery sequences. this film was dustin's vanity project for the production company (first artists) he had with steve mcqueen, barbra streisand, paul newman, and sidney poitier; he was set to direct but fired himself when things started going tits up with the script.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078326/

get bent, Sunday, 24 June 2007 08:14 (eighteen years ago)

director ulu grosbard has an interesting resume:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0343260/

get bent, Sunday, 24 June 2007 08:21 (eighteen years ago)

"But here's a jimmy joke about your mama that you might not like:
I heard she was a Cisco Pike"

Spencer Chow, Sunday, 24 June 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

That was back when, often instead of "novelizations"(do they do those any more?), the actual screenplay would be published, before or soon after the film came out, in drugstore paperback (not fancyass expensive trade pb), so I read that, was fascinated (as with transcript of Don't Look back, etc), even though could see plotline was for shit, and basically seemed like a pretext to get all these cool characters and settings boogieing on down the Pike. Film itself was sometimes not as good as script, but Awesome to see the elusive-beyond-Texas-and-sometimes-Cali Sir Doug (don't remember if band was Quintet, he was hard to keep up with), and he says something like "Hey Cisco, you still playing that freaky music?" (*sings* a parody of the kind of freaky guitar solo he himself played)And Kristofferson's always been a natural screen presence ("actor"? Good enough, it's the way he adjusts his vibe, man, the singing voice is harder to tune, being awesomely arhythmic, for one thing). Holds his own with Hackman, Stanton, the once-ubitquitous Karen Black, oo-owee (where is she?)

dow, Monday, 25 June 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

Awesome to see the elusive-beyond-Texas-and-sometimes-Cali Sir Doug (don't remember if band was Quintet, he was hard to keep up with)

Well, Sahm is called "Rex" in the movie, but yeah, the band was the Quintet, and Atwood Allen co-wrote "Michocan," the song heard in the movie. This right before the band broke up the first time.

C. Grisso/McCain, Monday, 25 June 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

Karen Black's hanging out at the Church of Scientology

Straight Time sounds interesting, will have to check out

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 25 June 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

where is karen black? she's in l.a., doing a play.

Karen's career as a playwright was launched in May 2007 with the opening of "Missouri Waltz" at the Blank Theater in Los Angeles, a play in which Black stars as well. Conceived as a play with music, rather than a musical, the play contains songs by Harriet Schock. The play is a bittersweet comedy about two ghosts who haunt their ancestral home in New Madrid, Missouri.

get bent, Monday, 25 June 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

Straight Time is great! Blue Collar is also good.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

All of these films used to be shown on British TV, when British TV was good

Tom D., Tuesday, 26 June 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

yeah I love Blue Collar - Pryor's best movie?

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

I love the whole 'Death of the hippie dream' era, but CS is kinda blah. A nice lost L.A flick from that period is 'The Outside Man' ('Un Homme est mort') with JL Trintignant.

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 08:22 (eighteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

Enhh... I'd have to vote Model Shop for "great lost LA film"

model shop is playing at the aero on the 27th, in a double feature w/ demy's bay of angels.

get bent, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 17:32 (seventeen years ago)

How about The Serial?
Loved the book, never saw the film but it can be yours for only $2500.
http://www.amazon.com/Serial-Martin-Mull/dp/B00001U0G1

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 18:20 (seventeen years ago)

I love Model Shop.

admrl, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 18:51 (seventeen years ago)

I love Bay Of Angels too, though the opening shot is significantly better than the rest of the film! I will be in NY for this double bill, though.

admrl, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 18:53 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

model shop out on dvd
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/06/movies/homevideo/06kehr.html?_r=1

strangely hypnotic film, <3 anouk aimee

velko, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 04:29 (sixteen years ago)

A nice lost L.A flick from that period is 'The Outside Man' ('Un Homme est mort') with JL Trintignant.

― baaderonixx

otm, super cool flick with ann-margret in fading sex kitten role

velko, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 04:31 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uNN-7wUUSc

velko, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 04:43 (sixteen years ago)

seven years pass...

I saw CP in a good 35mm print yesterday. Kinda surprised Hackman was onscreen for maaaybe 20 minutes, but i found his offbeat dirty cop v convincing, and KK really holds the screen in his first real role (apparently a late sub for Seymour Cassel?). Also Harry Dean Stanton's first meaty part.

That is some gallery of supporting players: Viva, Joy Bang, Allan Arbus, Antonio Fargas, Severn Darden, Doug Sahm...

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 11 June 2017 13:54 (eight years ago)

six years pass...

FAO UK pikelets - on Talking Pictures TV tonight at 11.20pm.

Ward Fowler, Monday, 22 January 2024 16:39 (two years ago)

Saw this recently on Tubi. I've never seen Hackman give a bad performance and he doesn't break his streak here. Kristofferson's really good, too, as is Harry Dean Stanton, and Antonio Fargas is great in his one, maybe two scenes. I've never understood the appeal of Karen Black, though.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 22 January 2024 17:13 (two years ago)

nine months pass...

Watching it now

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 1 November 2024 23:27 (one year ago)

For the first time

Man, Gene Hackman was YOUNG

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 1 November 2024 23:31 (one year ago)

Makes me think, vaguely, of The Model
Shop

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 2 November 2024 00:06 (one year ago)

watched this right after KK died, it’s so good

na (NA), Saturday, 2 November 2024 00:15 (one year ago)

I've never understood the appeal of Karen Black, though.

Voluptuous Horror, IIRC.

Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 2 November 2024 00:43 (one year ago)


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