Any other Americans tired of foreigners here (not ILX -- in America!) explaining that the world cup is the "most popular sporting event in the world"?

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YES, I KNOW THE WORLD CUP IS GOING ON, THANKS!

The SuperBowl has better commercials → America > your shitty country.

Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

the rest of the world is a country?

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

What's wrong with telling the truth?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

The World Cup is way more interesting than the Super Bowl, Jon. You're just too parochial to recognize it.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

bah. compares nothing with the stanley cup.

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

Kingfish OTM

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

The Six Nations is better than the Superbowl.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

It's not about telling the truth, I mean if the topic of the World Cup comes up or for some reason that's a valid thing to insert into the conversation, that's one thing. But I know the people that Jon is talking about. Or the type of people, I should say. They're cousins to the Brits who inevitably show up on any ILX thread with an American spelling or an American-style date reference, and point out how Americans are soooo dumb LOL do you have a TIME MACHINE cos that was last month LOL kind of crap.

Cultural Napoleon complex is just as annoying in a bar as cultural superiority complex.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

tho i am curious if the world cup has a similar history of being defiled, damaged, thrown into the river and then retreived the next day upon sobriety, etc

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

"Tiresome Tuomas Tumor"

Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Also none of you are actually engaging with what Jon said, which is about commercials, not individual favorite sports that can be referenced.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Overall, I give everyone a C+ for this thread.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

the ads are probably different from country to country, i would think.

Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

clearly EUROVISION is the best sporting event in the world.

I really wish America had a Eurovision-esque contest for all 50 states.

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

It's been a long time since I remember a really good Super Bowl commercial. Certainly none this year.

(Wait - are we talking about commercials advertising the Super Bowl, or the commercials broadcast during the Super Bowl?)

pleased to mitya (mitya), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

i also agree with jon's statement, as the world cup has yet to achieve the heights set by Terry Tate and "Evil Beaver" of the Miller Lite "Dick" adverts, the latter being perhaps the greatest example of Western art ever produced since John Carpenter unleased his magnum opus on the world in 1986.

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

not that i'm speaking for all americans but it seems that the world cup is the sporting equivalent of the metric system. it's nice for the rest of the world but just not for us. if you didn't get us to come around during the carter administration you sure as hell won't get us now. maybe it's our loss but we're fine as is, thanks.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

LIST OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE "EXPLAINED" THE WORLD CUP TO ME THIS YEAR:


1) GERMAN/TURKISH PIZZA PLACE OWNER (TOTAL BRO)
2) MEXICAN HIPSTERS WHO ALSO KEPT ON ASKING ME WHICH GIRLS I THOUGHT WOULD SLEEP WITH THEM

Your contributions please, non-caring Americans!

Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

Well there are a number of global ads which are particularly poor - such as the Gilette David Beckham shaving a cross of St George - unfortunately the red is ot as red as if he had cut deeplu into his skin and left a trail of blud.

Is there an iconic Nike ad this year. Joga seems a bit rubbidge.

Best ad so far is for the cross of St George ironing board cover. SUPPORT OUR LADS, WHILE IRONING!

Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

bah. compares nothing with the stanley cup.
-- kingfish doesn't live here anymore (jdsalmo...), June 6th, 2006 10:53 AM. (kingfish 2.0) (later) (link)


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Kingfish OTM
-- Holy makkara, Toivo! (thedanmarti...), June 6th, 2006 10:54 AM. (OutDatWay) (later) (link)

Fucking Michiganders.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.natural-health-information-centre.com/image-files/head-in-sand.jpg

zappi (joni), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure where I stand on the ads, actually. In my opinion, about half of the Super Bowl ads any given year are good and the others are flops. The ads we have here for any soccer competitions are usually b-grade cable weirdness, or standard fare at best, but sometimes I see ads on Setanta or FSC that are OK. The Jugo Bonita ads are B- ads, I suppose, though listening to Cantona still cracks me up.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

tho i am curious if the world cup has a similar history of being defiled, damaged, thrown into the river and then retreived the next day upon sobriety, etc

You Americans know nought of Pickles

Who Are You... The Nerve... I Wanna Get Out, I Wanna Get Out (Dada), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

I actually haven't had anyone explain the World Cup to me this year, but I had a good 6 or 7 years in Manhattan hearing it all the time. Especially from Israelis for some reason.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Israelis are right into their football

Who Are You... The Nerve... I Wanna Get Out, I Wanna Get Out (Dada), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

people who have "explained" this to me so far ever in the history of my life: zero

recent super bowls where the commercials actually lived up to the oh-god-the-commercials-are-so-the-reason-to-watch-the-super-bowl hype: zero, because once usa today starts doing articles about that it's all over

number of world cup matches I will watch this year, while drunk, and while seeing comforting americanski-style commercials because all the games are going to be shown on the very exotic channel ESPN: about 20

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

It's also a pity of sorts, that despite his relative tactical intelligence, given the resources at hand, Arena and the U.S. team have to face both the Czechs and the Italians in the group stages. We came awfully close to beating Germany last time and those kind of quarter- and semi-final games are the ones that might eventually get 'l'Amérique profonde to give a damn.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Any foreigners have experiences of having drunk Americans tell you how great [sport/event] is and not shutting up?

xpost,

Haikunym, FUCK OFF EUROPHILE.

XPOST
M. White, fuck off to an actual World Cup thread.

Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah but it's not like I knew this enormous group of Israelis, I'm not sure why I was such a target for their explaining.

xpost Sadly, Michael, I don't think the day America cares about soccer is forthcoming. I don't know what it is but they just can't get a foothold. Think of how great the women's team did, and still no one cared! It's odd.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

ooh Courtney U R hott when you talk dirtee

plus FUCK YOU RIGHT BACK for suggesting I am a Europhile

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Commercials aside, "La Copa De La Vida" still kicks any US football-related song... well, no puns. It's just immeasurably better.

pleased to mitya (mitya), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Are you kidding me? Superbowl Shuffle is a total classic.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

I think Americans just aren't happy unless the score is in double digits. Or people are fighting.

I really think there should be more sporting-event related music, period.

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

A.R. otm, I HAVE THAT SHIT ON A VCR TAPE

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

"La Copa De La Vida" still kicks any US football-related song...

not for nothing but in the US sports related songs are by and for dorks, retards, and spazzes.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

I think Americans just aren't happy unless the score is in double digits. Or people are fighting.

ORLY

Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

There should be a LOT of sporting-event related music. All sports teams should be required to make a song.

Also baseball exists in America and oftentimes does not get into double digits so that's incorrect. I think Americans have just deemed soccer as too euro.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

it's normal that people not originally from America, who are from countries where the World Cup is a really big sporting event, probably a little wistfully talk about how the World Cup is a huge event around the world. they're probably homesick for starters. sport is a pretty big tug for patriotism, in anybody.

this is not to rub American's faces in it, but because if you're in one of the many World Cup loving countries there is a huge buzz when the World Cup is on (just once every 4 years remember). And if your country is participating well then that buzz (the one you are missing cos of being in America) is ten times bigger.

When Ireland are in the World Cup the city practically shuts down the day they're playing. I assume it's the same in loads of other countries.

This is all pretty obvious.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

I meant "the city" of Dublin, I guess the whole country shuts down!

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Superbowl Shuffle is a total classic

of the Dud genre. Slightly better than that wrestling album that came out in the 80s. Maybe.

pleased to mitya (mitya), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

but so many more kids play soccer now than any other sport, so that's not really true either is it?

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Go, Cosmos, Go!

http://www.apple.com/trailers/miramax/onceinalifetime/

timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

The real problem is that Europeans don't use enough steroids. If they were amped up the way REAL athletes are, then Americans could get excited about the sport.

pleased to mitya (mitya), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Ronan, I'm going to corner you at a FAP a talk about the glory years of Robert Parish and Kevin McKale.

Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Also the World Cup involves the whole world, unlike the Superbowl, hence alot of people from around the world are used to football being a universal language. Again, America is the exception to this.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

"La Copa De La Vida" still kicks any US football-related song...
not for nothing but in the US sports related songs are by and for dorks, retards, and spazzes.

au contraire:

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/_photos3/2002-09-04-williams.jpg

Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.strangesports.com/images/content/3043.jpg

Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

i'm not familiar w/ these contexts, but tuomas otm.

i wouldn't want to go to France and tell them how much cooler Nascar (better car commercial logos!) is than their grand prix, but i might want to share my enthusiasm for stuff from my country with foreigners who might nbot get much exposure to it (if i were an extrovert)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

half the World Cup games will be on BBC so no adverts at all -> we win

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

football will get bigger here as a byproduct of latino diasporation

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Mary - the US are pretty well-organised and can be tough to break down and they've got a few good players, although no one really world class. On the other hand, they were still playing Tottenham reject Kasey Keller in goal until relatively recently, and may still be doing so. He of the immortal line "I didn't realise Thierry Henry was that fast", just after being made to look like a complete fool.

The Japan thing is interesting. Bear in mind France actually won the thing on their home turf eight years ago and there was still a bit of international snobbery towards their footballing culture. Like, a general feeling that the French didn't *get* football, that they couldn't really appreciate what it was to have won the World Cup.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

yeah but Jon I think their deal is: "hey, you Americans seem to really love sports. How could you not love this totally excellent sporting event?"

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

What style of soccer does the U.S. play?

We've been accused of being defensively naive but what we essentially play is 4-4-2, sometimes 4-3-3, positive and attacking play due to a lack of sparkling individual skills. Recently, however, we've been sluggish and utterly lacking in finishing though our defending is somewhat better, especially with Oguchi Onyewu in the back. The team mostly consists of Championship (old English First Division) players and MLS players with an odd Premier League player (Howard, O'Brien) and a smattering of players for middling European teams. We have too much of a tendency to play the old English game, kicking long balls upfield and hoping someone can hold them long enough for the team to run on to them. On a good day, Faced with the Italians who, if recent scandals haven't demoralized them too much and the Czechs, we will be doing very well indeed to get out of the groups stage. I'd say to look for Onyewu and Convey to shine if anyone does, though McBride, Donovan, Ching or Reyna might show up too. If anything, our biggest asset is the lack of interest/expectation at home and a sometimes confidence that comes from being underestimated or ignored.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

What style of soccer does the U.S. play?

We've been accused of being defensively naive but what we essentially play is 4-4-2, sometimes 4-3-3, positive and attacking play due to a lack of sparkling individual skills. Recently, however, we've been sluggish and utterly lacking in finishing though our defending is somewhat better, especially with Oguchi Onyewu in the back. The team mostly consists of Championship (old English First Division) players and MLS players with an odd Premier League player (Howard, O'Brien) and a smattering of players for middling European teams. We have too much of a tendency to play the old English game, kicking long balls upfield and hoping someone can hold them long enough for the team to run on to them. Faced with the Italians who, if recent scandals haven't demoralized them too much and the Czechs, we will be doing very well indeed to get out of the groups stage. I'd say to look for Onyewu and Convey to shine if anyone does, though McBride, Donovan, Ching or Reyna might show up too. If anything, our biggest asset is the lack of interest/expectation at home and a sometimes confidence that comes from being underestimated or ignored.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

To be honest, that group is wide open: you have a demoralized scandal ridden Italian squad, a Czech team with plenty of flair but no backbone, an American team that are really keen to establish themselves as genuine players, and a Ghana team that will surprise a lot of people. It;s one of the few groups where any combination of two teams could feasibly qualify without there being too big a shock.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

Dom may be right, but I'd still wager on the Czech's winning it.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

isn't the superbowl just one game?

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

from wikipedia
There is a popular urban myth regarding the Super Bowl — that the game is watched in 234 countries by 1 billion people [1], a fact unlikely to be true considering the time of the event and the lack of popularity American Football has outside of the United States. In actual fact, Super Bowl XXXIX in 2005 was watched by 93 million viewers in total, of which 98 percent were in North America [2]. Approximately half of the remaining 2 million worldwide viewers watched from the United Kingdom. [3] By comparison, the FIFA World Cup final game draws an audience of approximately 1.1 billion.

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

oh wait you're not disputing the fact.

you're just tired of being reminded of it. oops sorry!

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

Not being "reminded" of it. Having jackasses come up and announce it out of the blue like anyone gives a fuck, more like it.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

A million people in the UK watched the superbowl!??

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

I've never heard that 1 billion figure before, so I looked it up.

"urban myth" = "lie devised by the NFL and propagated by the US government"

http://voanews.com/english/2006-02-03-voa5.cfm

The only way this can be true is if they mean "people watching even a short excerpt on the game on their local news channel."

pleased to mitya (mitya), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

1,000,000 people in the UK wanted to watch more titties.

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

I've never heard that myth

lord pooperton (ex machina), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 23:35 (nineteen years ago)

"we" didn't invent baseball.

hey did you guys know the holy roman empire wasn't holy or roman or an empire? i know stuff.

oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 June 2006 04:14 (nineteen years ago)

Neither have I, Jon. The common figure is 100 million; I imagine the "1 billion" "popular urban myth" none of us has heard of basically stems from one journalist being too stupid to know that 100 million /= 1 billion.

But clearly, it's propaganda by the US govt, not a simply explained mistake that has been grossly overstated by always accurate Wikipedia. Riiiiiiiiiiight.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

Democrats Court Hispanics During World Cup

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

I hate to be the one to break this to you, Dada, but Scotland haven't ever really been that good either ;-\

True, but there's a 100 million of them and 5 million of us AND they get to qualify for every World Cup by dint of never having to play anyone difficult to get there AND they've already, for no apparent reason, hosted TWO World Cups!

Who Are You... The Nerve... I Wanna Get Out, I Wanna Get Out (Dada), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

No wonder Hispanics have taken to voting Republican.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Dada please stand for office with a slogan of "LET'S HOST A WORLD CUP ALREADY SCOTLAND DAMN YER EYES", I would vote for you. Also, stop whinging.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Whinging? How exactly?

Who Are You... The Nerve... I Wanna Get Out, I Wanna Get Out (Dada), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

True, but there's a 100 million of them and 5 million of us AND they get to qualify for every World Cup by dint of never having to play anyone difficult to get there AND they've already, for no apparent reason, hosted TWO World Cups! , is how

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Also: I will whine (we don't whinge, over here) about my teams plenty in the next few weeks and years, so please to call bullshit on me anytime you like. I like the Dada.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

How could anyone whinge about Scotland not hosting a World Cup? You may as may well moan about the moon not being made of cheese.

Who Are You... The Nerve... I Wanna Get Out, I Wanna Get Out (Dada), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

THE MOON IS NOT MADE OF CHEESE? DAMMIT.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

re: the original post. which foreigners display this behaviour the most?

duff (duff), Thursday, 8 June 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Jon I think the deal is, what the pedants you decry are thinking is if you're a person who likes sports, how the fuck could you not love the world cup?

But the argument has nothing to do with sports, it's usually pointed out (by furriners and Americans alike) to say something about American feelings of superiority and exceptionalism. It's a less-obvious complaint about American distrust in the UN or something.

Actually, almost everyone who's pointed this out to me (and defended the sacred honor of soccer) has been a liberal, Democrat-voting American who wishes they were European.

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 8 June 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

On the other hand, they were still playing Tottenham reject Kasey Keller in goal until relatively recently, and may still be doing so.

This is disappointing to hear. Today's Wash Post front-page story marked him as a paragon of goalkeeping and vaunted his magesterial saves against Brazil in '98. (There was also a front page story in the New York Times story about the possibility of World Cup betting scandals.)

It also appears that three British soccer hooligans have slipped into Germany.

Japan, not surprisingly, seems to play a very cautious, methodical version of soccer. They ploddingly pass the ball back and forth and back and forth and advance at a very slow rate.

One of my co-workers if from Ghana: he is so excited.

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 8 June 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

a liberal, Democrat-voting American who wishes they were European.

I don't think I know a single person who fits that description

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 8 June 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

but I don't know anyone, so never mind

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 8 June 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Keller's not a bad keeper.

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I were European: for the free healthcare and cute boys.

Looking at the TV schedule brings to mind another reason the World Cup might not take off here--the matches are on weekday mornings, when most Americans are at work or asleep. Once they can synchronize it to our prime time like the Olympics and make the games at weird hours of the day of and night to fit our schedules, we may give it a chance.

Cutlural Imperialist Mary (Mary), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

PAINFUL ROFFLES

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

Grrr!

Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

Americanz, I can't FIND A SHITASS TV SCHEDULE ONLINE. are all the matches being shown on espn2 and abc??

INSANE CLOWN FOSSE (Adrian Langston), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.soccertv.com/wc-us.cfm

svend (svend), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

ESPN, ESPN2, and ABC. Also, if you want to avoid the clueless commentary but want to hear the crowd, assuming that you're Spanish is as poor as mine, on Univision.

M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

thanks dawg

INSANE CLOWN FOSSE (Adrian Langston), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

tomorrow on ABC

9am Englishes vs Paraguay
Noon Trindads/Tobago vs Sweden

Sunday on ABC
Mexico vs Iran for the undisputed champion of the world

laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

Schedule. Yes. At inconvenient times. I'd prefer the middle-of-the-night shit the WBC had going on to showing games at 11 in the morning on a weekday wtf.

adam (adam), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

Whoa- surprisingly I'm not the only person who made the link between the unpopularity of soccer in America (at the professional level) and the fact that it bans the use of the hands! The same connection was drawn by none other than the Eggers himself:

The abandonment of soccer is attributable, in part, to the fact that people of influence in America long believed that soccer was the chosen sport of Communists. When I was 13—this was 1983, long before glasnost, let alone the fall of the wall—I had a gym teacher, who for now we'll call Moron McCheeby, who made a very compelling link between soccer and the architects of the Iron Curtain. I remember once asking him why there were no days of soccer in his gym units. His face darkened. He took me aside. He explained with quivering, barely mastered rage, that he preferred decent, honest American sports where you used your hands. Sports where one's hands were not used, he said, were commie sports played by Russians, Poles, Germans, and other commies. To use one's hands in sports was American, to use one's feet was the purview of the followers of Marx and Lenin. I believe McCheeby went on to lecture widely on the subject.

from http://www.slate.com/id/2142554/

o. nate (onate), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

Science!

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

Americans will always find it difficult to warm to a sport in which players (are perceived to) regularly "dive" and fake injury, particularly given the exposure to regular bone-crushing in US football. Similarly I think the fact that even a casual watcher of football (ie., soccer) can remember a game in which the outcome turned on a questionable call by a referee doesn't help: you watch 90 long minutes only to see your team lose because someone missed an offside call or bought into a dive.

pleased to mitya (mitya), Saturday, 10 June 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

I've got the Univision going. Where else would I learn about "Chiquidracula"? Plus, that Irish guy on ESPN who speaks like Lucky the Lucky Charms Leprechaun drives me up the wall.

Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Saturday, 10 June 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

Everyone can remember American football or basketball games screwed up by a questionable call.
It's an ongoing joke among people who watch basketball just how bad and (jokingly) corrupt the officials are. In football you've got the 'tuck rule,' and the play in last year's NCAA championship where Young should have been down and when Reggie Bush pushed Matt Leinart in for a goal during the Notre Dame game.

Bad officiating is the lifeblood of American sports.

milo z (mlp), Saturday, 10 June 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

America is about doing everything in the most direct way and to hell with tradition, manners, and what have you.

Not our table manners!

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 10 June 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

after watching a couple of hours of world cup soccer over yesterday and today I think I've figured out why Americans aren't in love with it:

This is the most boring shit I've ever seen passed off as a sporting contest. Jesus.

milo z (mlp), Saturday, 10 June 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

Whoa- surprisingly I'm not the only person who made the link between the unpopularity of soccer in America (at the professional level) and the fact that it bans the use of the hands!

I said it upthread! Interestingly enough, many of the best American players are goalkeepers.

Nemo (JND), Saturday, 10 June 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

There's a reason they put Sly Stallone in goal in Escape to Victory.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 10 June 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha! According to IMDB:

Reportedly, Sylvester Stallone insisted that his character score the game-winning goal in the film, as he felt he was the biggest star in the film. The non-American crew was finally able to convince him of the absurdity of the goalkeeper scoring the winning goal, and the penalty shot was specifically written to placate his ego.

I haven't seen the movie since I was a kid, but the only part of the game I remember is Pelé's bicycle kick.

Nemo (JND), Saturday, 10 June 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)


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