The Wimbledon draws came out this morning! I was actually going to start this thread earlier this week because of the DRAMA in the qualifying tournament. Remember Jelena Dokic and Alexandra Stevenson? Remember Wimbledon 1999, the year in which they turned the women's draw upside down? Remember how they seemed to have glittering careers ahead of them?
Fast fwd seven years, neither are in the top 600, neither have won a WTA match in YEARS - and they face off in the first round of qualies. Dokic takes a 6-4 5-3 lead before double faulting three times; Stevenson takes advantage to win in three sets. Afterwards, she demonstrates that pleasantness and charm which made her such a popular girl on tour the first time round, calling Dokic "a one-dimensional player" and proclaiming that she'd "won one match, had nine to go" to win the whole thing. She proceeded to lose to one Tatiana Poutchek in the next round; good luck in winning nine matches this YEAR, Alexandra!
ANYWAY. All of that is in the past and they are both on planes home. The main draw already has enough drama of its own, viz.:
Federer against Gasquet in round one! With Henman to follow in round two! Let no one accuse Wimbledon of draw-rigging to benefit the Henperson this year. And Safin against Rusedski in round one! Actually, probably more fascinating than any of those is the potential Agassi v Nadal round three.
In the women's, we've got Clijsters v Zvonareva in the opening round - and a very nice draw for Venus Williams...
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 23 June 2006 11:01 (nineteen years ago)
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Friday, 23 June 2006 11:09 (nineteen years ago)
We can talk about the closing stages of Nottingham/Eastbourne/'s-Hertogenbosch if you like though. Especially because Miss Anastasia Myskina is still in the Eastbourne draw.
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 23 June 2006 11:11 (nineteen years ago)
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Friday, 23 June 2006 11:18 (nineteen years ago)
My one-to-watch tip is Shahar Peer - tough as old boots, has a good route to the q/f and could well give La Maria a shock once she gets there.
― darren (darren), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)
― darren (darren), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)
It's all worthwhile for me just so that I could get the legendary Andrea Temesvari shoehorned in the Wimbledon Babes gallery I was forced into making.
― darren (darren), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)
I did your quiz Darren:
Quiz Complete
You scored 9 out of 10 answers correctly.
You’re a Federer, with the all-round game to beat anyone on this subject.
The only one I didn't get was the People's Sunday one. However the year Novotna cried was 1993!
All the ingredients are technically there for shock-exit-of-champion a la Graf in '94, Hingis in '99 - Federer's coming off a draining and demoralising loss and plays an extremely talented opponent who a) has beaten him before and b) played him very tough in Halle last week. I still don't think it'll happen though. Henman certainly won't beat him.
Shahar Peer has been pretty special this year and she IS tough - there was a notorious 'episode' between her and Serena last year involving tennis balls aimed directly at heads. I am not sure she's got the hang of grass yet though - and Daniilidou, who loves grass, lurks in the second round.
The best opening round match between players you've never heard of is Radwanska v Azarenka - last year's junior Wimbledon champion v last year's junior No 1. It looks like I may have to miss Wimbledon this year for the first time since '97 though - haven't booked any days off work, too much going on next week to really make it viable :(
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)
Federer v Ancic (swap these two around in the draw and Ancic doesn't make it through, though)Nalbandian v Hrbaty (because Blake never does anything)Hewitt v Baghdatis (because the narrative needs someone to be annoyed)Ljubicic v Nadal (because duh)
It shouldn't take a lot to work out that Federer is winning this.
For the ladies in the house, it's another funny lopsided sort of thing. Mauresmo has been touched by an angel. A moderate test early on against either Krajicek or Stosur in round 2 with, lets face it, only Safina to worry about after that. She gets squashed by Venus in the quarters, obviously. Agree that Peer will be the toughest ask for Sharapova, and I reckon she might do it. My Mum's Favourite Player (Eleni Daniilidou) might also pull out a good one. Except she won't. My own Favourite Player (Elena Dementieva) has Our Sania first off, should be good, and should account for Frankie in the fourth as girl's got form. The third quadrant is batshit insane, not just because it has Patty Schnyder in it. Hearts for Patty! But there's also Hingis and Hantuchova to potentially worry Justine Double H. She should still get through easily because it's JHH and she is very wonderful and in great form. Sadly, Alicia "The Love Machine" Molik will, given that she's just coming back from injury, lose to Hantuchova before getting a chance to lose to Justine, which I would like watching muchly. And Clijsters has a not too awful eighth, most of the tricky people being in the top bit of her quarter to make life difficult for Sveta. Vaidisova should do the job nicely.
Mauresmo v WilliamsPeer v Dementieva (I am v. unadventurous this year, this is my lash-out)Henin-Hardenne v HingisVaidisova v Clijsters
― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)
OMG - of course ! Martinez won in '94, didn't she ? Never mind, we can change it in an hour or two ...
― darren (darren), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)
You're like Balazs Taroczy - deft angles in the forecourt and the finest collection of Hillman Imps east of the Alps.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)
I think Mesmo has the quintessential Draw From Hell actually - Krajicek and Stosur are both of a calibre that they can legitimately think "if Dechy can beat her I can bloody well WHOMP her". Golovin in the third - just coming back from injury but the last time they played Mesmo was v lucky to squeak through. And then Ivanovic or Safina for the right to get stamped on by Venus.
On the other hand, Sharapova. I'll be shocked if any of her first week matches last beyond an hour.
I would totally take Molik over Hantuchova - however I am not sure if I would take her over solid-and-consistent Srebotnik.
One match I am actually very intrigued by is the potential Murray v Roddick. Neither have been in very good form recently, but I can really imagine Murray using the crowd more and getting into Roddick's head...
Ivanovic v WilliamsSharapova v SchiavoneHingis v Henin-HardenneKuznetsova v Clijsters
Federer v MonfilsNalbandian v BlakeHewitt v MurrayLjubicic v Nadal
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 23 June 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.mariaworld.net/birmingham0610.jpg
http://www.mariaworld.net/birmingham0629.jpg
(though losing 6-4 6-4 to Jamea Jackson in the semis in Birmingham, and carrying that ankle injury, things don't bode too well)
― David Orton (scarlet), Friday, 23 June 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)
The backhand is Federer's weakest shot. Yes it may be pretty, even poetic at times, but aesthetics don't win points in tennis, and with a return as potent as Roddick's he should be all over Federer's feeble backhand.
Um, yes, Roddick has a very potent return. I swear sometimes we're watching a different person to the partisans. Roddick is an uninventive returner if ever there were one. Also, Federer's backhand is not as good as his forehand but it's not usually feeble, though it was exploited beautifully by Nadal.
Oh, whateverpaws.
― edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 24 June 2006 07:04 (nineteen years ago)
Blake looks ok - ws v disappointed in how he fell against Hewitt in the Stella Artois final.
Part of me is hoping Fed is beaten by Gasquet just so Henman can beat him in a possible 2nd round encounter. For one Fed fucked up badly on the slam -- but also, oh yes, I'd still like Henman to win the thing..the main thing tho' is that it clashes as little as possible with WC action.
Might have to do a rain dance later on..
― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Saturday, 24 June 2006 08:58 (nineteen years ago)
― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Saturday, 24 June 2006 11:57 (nineteen years ago)
― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Saturday, 24 June 2006 12:21 (nineteen years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Saturday, 24 June 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)
Myskina to serve 5-4 down.
― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Saturday, 24 June 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)
― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Saturday, 24 June 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)
― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Saturday, 24 June 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)
― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Saturday, 24 June 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Saturday, 24 June 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)
― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Saturday, 24 June 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)
― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Saturday, 24 June 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)
― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Saturday, 24 June 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)
― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Saturday, 24 June 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Saturday, 24 June 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)
Now only half an hour to wait till Germany-Sweden :-) Sport is grebt!
― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Saturday, 24 June 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)
Other tune-up winners - Gasquet (ominous for Fed!), Michaella Krajicek in controversial circumstances (in her semi-final against Dementieva she was match point down, and her shot which was apparently very much out was called in, leaving ED fuming about home advantage). Mauresmo's second round has much horror potential now!
― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 24 June 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 24 June 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)
― Archelll (what?), Monday, 26 June 2006 06:02 (nineteen years ago)
― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Monday, 26 June 2006 09:14 (nineteen years ago)
Will lug the portable TV/set-top box downstairs again in a minute in case the weather perks up. I'm painting the living room in Gustav green; could be a good omen for Soderling.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 26 June 2006 10:30 (nineteen years ago)
― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Monday, 26 June 2006 11:01 (nineteen years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 26 June 2006 11:01 (nineteen years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Monday, 26 June 2006 11:09 (nineteen years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 26 June 2006 11:49 (nineteen years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 26 June 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 11:11 (nineteen years ago)
The extremely dull and annoying Rainer Schuttler is losing to a Croatian I've never heard of. Super Mario about to go two sets up, "Tax" Garbin recovering over Plucky Brit. James Blake getting a right fight from Kristian Pless. Of Denmark. No, me neither.
Mark Bloody Philippoussis is on. GO AWAY I HATE YOU.
― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)
― Earwig oh! (Mark C), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:13 (nineteen years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)
And look! Big Gae El is losing to (WATCH YOUR TYPING) Igor Kunitsyn - down two sets to one. Ivo-9 down a set to Swiss Stan, and, proving that when you're a female seed I've never seen play, you're probably rubbish, Sofia Arvidsson down a set to Eva Birnerova. Since when has there been a decent female Swedish tennis player. All their quality girls become pop divas, no? Wane Arfurs comes back after an injury time-out against the Fabuliser. World stifles yawn.
― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)
― David Orton (scarlet), Saturday, 8 July 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)
― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Saturday, 8 July 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Saturday, 8 July 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)
This running-into-the-stands thing is a bit rubbish now? It was great when Pat Cash did it - fuck, nearly 20 years ago! - but it's become like a tradition now.
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 8 July 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 8 July 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 8 July 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 8 July 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)
― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Saturday, 8 July 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)
Ws for JHH but it ws a curious dip at the start of the 2nd that allowed Mauresmo in the match, though she played more aggressively. Her serving towards the end was truly terrific and Henin, as well as she tried and executed her net game just wasn't allowed get back in.
Happy for Mauresmo - now all the doubters can go away. Great to see someone winning with a good serve and volley game. Cor.
Henin will have a few years to do it but wonder whether she'll have as good a chance again..think her career slam (and winning her one Wimbledon) gives her more goose bumps than she's prepared to admit. Either that or what happened in Aus possibly played some part in the match.
8 years ago - French woman in the semis and France in the WC final. Tauziat lost and France won so now we're well on the way for that to be reversed.
― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Saturday, 8 July 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)
― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Saturday, 8 July 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)
Of course the above could be total and utter rub. They've never played each other on grass so Nadal's adjustments to this surface will be given a full test. Fed had that horrible 1st setter against Bandy in the semis but here no problems whatsoever. This is Fed's best surface, but you wonder whether there will be any reaction from the WAY he lost the French (and not only that he lost) - it'll really hinge on what kind of pressure Nadal can bring onto Fed's backhand on grass. xp
― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Saturday, 8 July 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 9 July 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)
(5-0 up after 17 minutes)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 9 July 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 9 July 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 9 July 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 9 July 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 9 July 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)
(except for that lame shot there)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 9 July 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)
Of course, Fed blitzed Nadal for about half an hour at Roland Garros but that 6-1 first set was much tighter than this and Fed's level wasn't quite as high.
Nadal saves a couple of break-back points for a 3-1 2nd set lead - they're both starting to motor now, Nadal not nearly so phased by Fed's variety off the ground and serving better too.
I'm not nearly as tense as I was for the Roddick finals but I DO want Federer to win this.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 9 July 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 9 July 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)
Fed has got a real battle on his hands now - he's hitting his groundstrokes phenomenally well now and they're ALL coming back.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 9 July 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)
― lurker #2421, inc. (lurker-2421), Sunday, 9 July 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)
Ah, well...he has to get a return in first...
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 9 July 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 9 July 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)
(explanation number 2, or 5, I guess)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 9 July 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)
Nadal probably should've won that set...but he didn't and the most likely outcome now is a very swift Fed 3rd set.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 9 July 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 9 July 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Sunday, 9 July 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 9 July 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 9 July 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)
― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Sunday, 9 July 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)
― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Sunday, 9 July 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Sunday, 9 July 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 9 July 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Sunday, 9 July 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 9 July 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 9 July 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 9 July 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 9 July 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 9 July 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 9 July 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Sunday, 9 July 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 9 July 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)
May this rivalry continue.
― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Sunday, 9 July 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)
― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Sunday, 9 July 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)
and I loved the lo-five
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 9 July 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)
it was a v g final, too many incredible shots to count - the third set tiebreak was awesome. I still haven't worked out who I will be supporting in this era-defining rivalry - I like them both so much! I cheered for Federer at Roland Garros and Nadal here, so, er, I guess I'm happy overall.
roll of honour:
Men's singles: Roger FedererWomen's singles: Amélie MauresmoMen's doubles: Bob Bryan and Mike BryanWomen's doubles: Yan Zi and Zheng JieMixed doubles: Andy Ram and Vera ZvonarevaBoys' singles: Thiemo de BakkerGirls' singles: Caroline WozniackiBoys' doubles: Kellen Damico and Nathaniel SchnuggGirls' doubles: Alisa Kleybanova and Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova
!!! at the names of the junior doubles winners, and WELL DONE VERA!
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 06:45 (nineteen years ago)
The blazer is okay-ish, but I was slightly amazed at the amount of time Sue Barker spent discussing with him the little emblam on the pocket.
― David Orton (scarlet), Monday, 10 July 2006 08:07 (nineteen years ago)
(Further down, Bjorkman regains his position as Swedish #1 at the age of 34 [wr: #29]; Murray now top Brit at #36. Always amusing to see the vastly exaggerated leaps and falls for the Challenger-circuit Brits at this time of year; normally they're scrapping week-in week-out for handfuls of computer points and then along comes Wimbledon with its plentiful bounty, and their wildcard either gets them a claycourter who hasn't even practised on grass before or the #4 seed. The latter is hard cheese if last year you had the claycourter followed by the fellow Brit and a run to r3...you won't regain those points in Ghent or Aylesbury).
Pts Pts +/- Rank This Last Since # OfRank Player Nat Diff Week Week +/- Jan 1 Trn*---- ------ --- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -- 1 Federer, Roger SUI 0 7260 7260 0 535 18 2 Nadal, Rafael ESP 0 5125 4545 580 360 19 3 Nalbandian, David ARG 0 3185 3360 -175 815 18 4 Ljubicic, Ivan CRO 0 3125 3055 70 945 21 5 Davydenko, Nikolay RUS 1 2165 2195 -30 -225 31 6 Blake, James USA 1 2155 2085 70 925 24 7 Ancic, Mario CRO 3 1985 1885 100 625 24 8 Stepanek, Radek CZE 5 1925 1710 215 485 25 9 Robredo, Tommy ESP -1 1915 1920 -5 425 26 10 Baghdatis, Marcos CYP 6 1857 1494 363 1223 24 11 Roddick, Andy USA -6 1805 2430 -625 -1280 20 12 Hewitt, Lleyton AUS -3 1700 1900 -200 -790 20 13 Nieminen, Jarkko FIN 5 1635 1390 245 590 29 14 Gaudio, Gaston ARG -2 1625 1745 -120 -425 22 15 Berdych, Tomas CZE -1 1615 1635 -20 415 26 16 Gonzalez, Fernando CHI -5 1580 1755 -175 -210 22 17 Ginepri, Robby USA 0 1480 1480 0 -40 25 18 Ferrer, David ESP 1 1475 1330 145 -145 25 19 Kiefer, Nicolas GER -4 1440 1515 -75 190 18 20 Agassi, Andre USA 0 1405 1330 75 -870 17
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 22:41 (nineteen years ago)
1. Amélie Mauresmo FRA2. Kim Clijsters BEL3. Justine Henin-Hardenne BEL4. Maria Sharapova RUS5. Nadia Petrova RUS6. Elena Dementieva RUS7. Svetlana Kuznetsova RUS8. Patty Schnyder SUI9. Mary Pierce FRA10. Lindsay Davenport USA11. Anastasia Myskina RUS12. Nicole Vaidisova CZE13. Martina Hingis SUI14. Francesca Schiavone ITA15. Dinara Safina RUS16. Anna-Lena Groenefeld GER17. Daniela Hantuchova SVK18. Flavia Pennetta ITA19. Ai Sugiyama JPN20. Ana Ivanovic SCG
Mauresmo surely undisputed No 1 now that she's reigning champion at two Slams and the year-end championships. (For me, the Wimbledon win validated the slightly dodgy Australian win in retrospect - and really, if JHH had crushed her, the doubts over Australia would have got even bigger.) First Williams-free top 20 since...since Venus first got there! In 1998! Venus now 23, Serena now 140. Li Na is the highest-ranked Chinese player in history at 22; the endlessly slumping Karolina Sprem crawls back into the top 50 at 49; surprise quarter-finalist Brémond is up to 65. Everyone's favourite Polish debutante Agnieszka Radwanska leaps from 217 to 127.
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 07:43 (nineteen years ago)