Gordon Ramsay's F Word

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In the absence of the World Cup am watching this, though I've seen bits of it before.

I see his obsession with taking his top off has now been carried into the opening credit sequence.

Also how much of the show involves people saying "fuck" alot, with little decoration on top of that.

Gordon seems a bit of a closet case.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, this is the first time I've really seen it properly too. He's a complete tosswipe, isn't he? He is quite horrid, why would ANYONE want to work with him? He was also really rude to those French blokes.

Though Cliff got pwned, which is always funny.

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Yes he was very rude to the French guys.

It seems despite his freak outs to his staff, he can't really take criticism.

Also he fawns over the celebs. He is a real bollocks I agree, though it's very watchable. The marketing of it as "tough guy cooking" or whatever is truly awful, when he does the recipes and it's like "EGGS. BEATEN. SIMMER. SCALLIONS. CHOPPED."

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

It's weird the public perception of him as such a egomaniacal no-talent asshole when by all accounts people who've actually worked with him and eaten at his restaurants consider him to be a great boss and a fantastic chef which makes me think his public persona is very extreme exaggeration of how he really is.

All re: "tough guy cooking" thing, isn't Ramsay a pastry chef amongst other things (the province of the kitchen generally considered the least tough guy or even guy AT ALL)?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

My mother-in-law ate at his ill-fated Glasgow restaurant and said it was excellent (I'm not sure I trust her as any sort of an expert, mind you, but it's all I have to go on). I'm sure he's very good, yes, he has made a fantastically successul career out of it.

His sweary angry dude schtick is really wearing though.

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

it's not weird at all that people percieve him as an asshole when he patently acts like one show after show. if he spoke to me the way he just spoke to those guys i would probably have thrown the hot oil over the cunt.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

not really, i would just have got really upset and burst into tears.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

It feels pretty weird and forced, his swearing and anger.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

"The gays don't eat pastry." -- Janet Street-Porter. Who just kicked his arse.

His food is amazing, really. Top-line chefs are always rude to kitchen staff who don't cut it, and completely lovely to those who do.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure they are, but it doesn't mean I want his rudeness making a potential interesting programme virtually unwatchable.

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

i like JSP. i also eat pastry.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

It's ridiculous, just "fuck" after "fuck", a child wouldn't use the word so gratuitously.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

he's not as big a fucker as ray lamontagne

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus, next week Gordon and Jeremy Clarkson. Surely more fucking there.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

i love the fact that his glasgow restaurant went bankrupt just before he started that kitchen nightmares programme. i wish i'd gone though.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

every time i watch his show he seems to lose to the celeb or other guest chef e.g. he got pwned by Fearnley-Whittingstall so said Sharon Osbourne - all of which makes me think he is really a crap sleb chef with his personality blatantly exaggerated for TV fun.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

yes, his schtick is very tired now. i was very impressed, though, that he made a meal which found culinary virtue in brocolli.

michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

it looked like he deep fried the broccoli

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

Those doughnut things looked a bit rub. I wouldn't have paid £££ for them.

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

broccoli/brocolli. i thought he boiled it for a couple of minutes?

michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

they should've baked the doughnuts like Pret do.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

He did boil it. Two and a half minutes. I was *interested* in the cooking stuff, I just can't be arsed listening to him swearing and running down everyone else who's ever cooked anything on the telly ever.

(xpost)

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

I would fully expect HF-W to pwn GR.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

Gratuitous swearing is big and clever, doubly so if directed at cowering underlings in a restaurant kitchen. Surely the kitchen is the only place* where bosses workplace bullying is seen as acceptable, possibly even desirable? The two or three chefs I know seem to view getting bollocked at every given turn as an accepted hazard of their chosen career path.

Gordon Ramsay is classic in almost every way.

*Okay, maybe newspaper newsrooms as well, but even there...

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 June 2006 08:09 (nineteen years ago)

The thing about GR is I can't really imagine him sitting down & enjoying good food. It's as if cooking, or rather running restaurats, is just a channel for competitiveness & the rest of the macho bollocks, & it could just as easily have been playing football, trading bonds, selling houses.

The swearing is totally forced: he puts all the fucks in the wrong places. "This guineau fucking fowl fucking is awful. Fucking make me another" etc.

He had possibly the worst selection of Desert Island Discs ever: Simply the Best, Careless Whisper, Everything I do (B Adams), Yellow by Coldplay, Sing by Travis etc. This makes me like him a bit more (slightly)

bham (bham), Thursday, 29 June 2006 08:10 (nineteen years ago)

No, Digby Jones had a worse DID: Simply The Best, Everything I Do, *and* The Wind Beneath My Wings. This is indeed a mighty trifecta that cannot be outshone.

MDC: the bollockings are, for the most part, directed at people who either wasted food (money) or seemed not exactly au fait with health and safety issues. Choose from one: shouting, or salmonella. Also in my restaurant kitchen experience the best way to stop a shouting ranter is to ask "and?" or better, ask if they're finished because now we're really behind schedule.

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 29 June 2006 08:19 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, "workplace bullying" implies personal vendetta rather than professional responsibility, doesn't it?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 June 2006 08:23 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't AA Gill say he was a first class chef, a second class footballer and a third class human being? Not that that's saying much. Mrs Trifle met him and said he was very pleasant.

I'm really very bored of the whole macho kitchen schtick. The advert for this just made me think 1) smashing a cake hardly takes a lot of effort 2) what a waste of a cake.

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Thursday, 29 June 2006 08:28 (nineteen years ago)

Clarkson + Ramsey = my idea of hell.

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Thursday, 29 June 2006 08:28 (nineteen years ago)

Nowhere near as good as Gordon's Kitchen Nightmares.

Gordon's anger was justified due to food being repeatedly burnt by the Essex jolly boys, and the whole "mate" business. Yeah, I'm with Grodon on that.

David Orton (scarlet), Thursday, 29 June 2006 08:33 (nineteen years ago)

(I think Clarkson is quite entertaining, and a properly good writer)
*runs away*

David Orton (scarlet), Thursday, 29 June 2006 08:35 (nineteen years ago)

JSP was great, as ever.

Surely the kitchen is the only place* where bosses workplace bullying is seen as acceptable, possibly even desirable?

The armed forces?

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 29 June 2006 08:36 (nineteen years ago)

I wish he would stop saying 'yess'. And also 'yess?'

Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 29 June 2006 08:37 (nineteen years ago)

Grodon, heh.

One dud point: Licence for every two bit rubbish chef to basically bully and swear at his staff and everyone else. Which is doubly bad at places where the kitchen was a visible portal.

One place, we got a 50% discount off our bill after complaining to the manager about cold salmon kebabs, and our waiter refusing to send it back to the kitchen to be cooked properly as the 'chef will go mad' (they cooked another set from fresh as if it was a different order, which sounds nice except I'd finished my meal and pudding by the time my wife's main course arrived)....

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 29 June 2006 08:39 (nineteen years ago)

Name and shame, Mark, name and shame!

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Thursday, 29 June 2006 09:04 (nineteen years ago)

1) the London Street Brasserie

2) Ma Potters.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 29 June 2006 09:08 (nineteen years ago)

One place, we got a 50% discount off our bill after complaining to the manager about cold salmon kebabs, and our waiter refusing to send it back to the kitchen to be cooked properly as the 'chef will go mad' (they cooked another set from fresh as if it was a different order, which sounds nice except I'd finished my meal and pudding by the time my wife's main course arrived)....

Firstly, 14 in Paisley and Ad-Lib in Glasgow to thread!

Actually reviving as I'm still watching this stuff, despite loathing Ramsey more and more each week. He has just made Dermot O'Leary touch his (GR's) cock, and has berated a woman for eating toffee in his restaurant after sending liver back for being a bit pink (you know, like it should be). OK, yes, the woman is obviously a moron, but also getting the chef coming out to your table to call you a fucking moron on national telly is a bit mean.

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

Aw, he's mean to his kids too. They were drawing pictures of the pigs and he just told one of them how their picture looked nothing like a pig. That's just mean. All parents have to tell their kids how good their drawings are, even if they're shit, don't they?

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

all those beers looked great. i drink and love the stuff he gives to his pigs!

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

All parents have to tell their kids how good their drawings are, even if they're shit, don't they?

nah, i'd be all "that's rubbish, i could do better" too.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

I really liked the bloke who told him to fuck off. I was silently applauding him.

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

I liked his speech at the end - "you may be a bit shit, but you didn't fucking give up".

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)


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