Robert Anton Wilson: C/D, S/D, Fnord/Fnord

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My friend Bob Wilson--the prolific writer who has been balancing for decades on the cusp of cult following and mainstream awareness--has recently been on his deathbead, surrounded by family and hospice workers in what were his final days, but he suddenly seemed to be changing his mind.

On June 19, he sent this haiku with one syllable missing:

Well what do you know?
Another day had passed
and I'm still not not.

And then, on June 21, he e-mailed this message:

Surprise!
I'm still alive
and doing business on ebay.

One of the few times I ever went out of my way to get a book signed was to have RAW sign my copy of the Illuminatus trilogy. In return he made me a Discordian Pope. Several years later, I organized a disruption of one of his conspiracy games and gave him an action card to "conduct a funeral mass for Oscar The Grouch." And he did!

Anyway, I knew he had been in ill health for awhile but I'd rather start a thread now than have to stare at another "R.I.P." thread.

Fsck Washing Ong's Hat (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 29 June 2006 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

Also... CLASSIC

Fsck Washing Ong's Hat (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 29 June 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

his plays are kinda hacky but ambitious.

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Thursday, 29 June 2006 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

oh oops i was thinking of robert wilson. RAW is the majik guy right? i saw that guy speak once and he BLEW MY MIND. classic.

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Thursday, 29 June 2006 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

total classic

latebloomer aka rap's yoko ono (latebloomer), Friday, 30 June 2006 00:39 (nineteen years ago)

I had the Illuminatus Trilogy as a teenager and the sex bit pages were well-paged through. Ridiculous stuff, and the Cosmic Trigger series entertained my friend for years. Classic for those.

business up front, party entrance at side door (mike h.), Friday, 30 June 2006 00:43 (nineteen years ago)

The Illuminatus Trilogy is the best book ever when you're 17 - I read it all during a week-long family holiday, and was having weird dreams about Adam Weishaupt and krakens and stuff. I'd be interested to read it again, ten years on, but am a bit scared I'd find it cringeworthy, especially because it's very pro-libertarian as I remember.

chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Friday, 30 June 2006 00:45 (nineteen years ago)

The Illuminatus Trilogy is the best book ever when you're 17

OTM.

They talked about the Schrodinger's Cat paradox in my daughter's physics class -- she thought it was interesting and remembered seeing a book with that title on our shelves at home, started reading it and got her mind blown a little.

I will commence to drop a knowledge bomb. (Rock Hardy), Friday, 30 June 2006 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

They are awesome when you are 17. Might even be awesome when you are 21, but I lent mine to a friend who was going back to Pakistan for the summer and she never returned it. I really wonder how she felt about it....

Maria (Maria), Friday, 30 June 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

I was 14 or so when I read it, this might explain a lot about me.

business up front, party entrance at side door (mike h.), Friday, 30 June 2006 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

The Illuminatus books are complete genius. It's not merely the conspiracy theory stuff, but the bizarro narrative structure and chortlesome characters. Plus the guy fucking the apple.


DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 30 June 2006 08:51 (nineteen years ago)

talking dolphins, too!

latebloomer aka rap's yoko ono (latebloomer), Friday, 30 June 2006 09:21 (nineteen years ago)

I read the trilogy when I was in my early 20s, and it still blew my mind. It's not even so much the conspiracy theory stuff (as good as that is) but the experimental structure of the novels.

The "twist" at the end is still the best thing ever.

Custard Subsidence (kate), Friday, 30 June 2006 09:23 (nineteen years ago)

This is the dawning of the age of Bavaria!

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 30 June 2006 11:06 (nineteen years ago)

classic! i read the schrodinger's cat trilogy first, i think, or maybe it was masks of the illuminati. so i approached illuminatus! in a completely ass-backwards fashion which didn't hurt it at all.

cosmic trigger really freaked me out when i was a teenager but was probably helpful.

long may he wave! or particle.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Friday, 30 June 2006 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

Prometheus Rising is an incredibly inspiring read. Of all his non-trilogy books, this is the one I most highly recommend. Also, his novels are always a shit ton of fun, even as an adult, though they're not quite as mind-blowing once you've lived clear through the end of adolescence.

Also it was through him that I discovered Bucky Fuller, Emperor Norton, E-Prime, the Church of the Subgenius, etc, lots of the things that I have been most entertained/enlightened by over the years.

you can email me if you wish to challenge the truth (nickalicious), Friday, 30 June 2006 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

Little man, big balls.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 30 June 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

The Illuminatus Trilogy is the best book ever when you're 17

It was totally awesome when I read it when I was 12.

I'd be interested to read it again, ten years on, but am a bit scared I'd find it cringeworthy

That's how I found it when I tried to read it again around age 20.

That said, I did read the Schroedinger's Cat Trilogy a few times in my later teen years.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 1 July 2006 02:49 (nineteen years ago)

Classic, but not as good at blowing minds (or writing) as Ramsey Dukes.

John W. Smoke, Jr. (Uri Frendimein), Sunday, 2 July 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...
He's not doing so well at the moment:

http://www.boingboing.net/2006/10/05/note_from_robert_ant.html

StanM (StanM), Friday, 6 October 2006 08:14 (nineteen years ago)

I sent him $50.23. It's the least I could do...

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 6 October 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...
Just posted on his blog...

Robert Anton Wilson Defies Medical Experts and leaves his body @4:50 AM on binary date 01/11.
All Hail Eris!

On behalf of his children and those who cared for him, deepest love and gratitude for the tremendous support and lovingness bestowed upon us.

(that's it from Bob's bedside at his fnord by the sea)

RAW Memorial February 07
date to be announced

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 11 January 2007 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

RIP :(

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 11 January 2007 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

R.I.P.R.A.W.

It's been a long time since I took any of his stuff seriously, but in middle and high school he hit just the right spot.

Candy: tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy. (Austin, Still), Thursday, 11 January 2007 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

:(

Various medical authorities swarm in and out of here predicting I have between two days and two months to live. I think they are guessing. I remain cheerful and unimpressed. I look forward without dogmatic optimism but without dread. I love you all and I deeply implore you to keep the lasagna flying.

Please pardon my levity, I don't see how to take death seriously. It seems absurd.

RAW

RIP, dude, you are my #1 inspiration for the mindset I want when I go.

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 11 January 2007 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

RIP man

and what (ooo), Thursday, 11 January 2007 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

R.I.P.

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elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 11 January 2007 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

RIP - out with a smile amen

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 January 2007 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Laughing at death = CLASSIC

Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Thursday, 11 January 2007 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

only if its yours

and what (ooo), Thursday, 11 January 2007 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

True. Mostly...

Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Thursday, 11 January 2007 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

So sad. You meant something to me. Cheerio.

everything (everything), Thursday, 11 January 2007 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

RIP :-(

StanM (StanM), Thursday, 11 January 2007 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

RIP. gotta admire how we went out. one of the good guys.

latebloomer da nutty tarkovsky (latebloomer), Friday, 12 January 2007 05:52 (eighteen years ago)

yeah RIP.

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 January 2007 06:01 (eighteen years ago)

i like this thing he wrote a long time ago:

http://www.deepleafproductions.com/wilsonlibrary/texts/raw-dying.html

Cheerful Reflections on Death and Dying

Robert Anton Wilson

I don't understand why people fear death -- although of course I see good reasons to fear the process of dying. Dying often involves a great deal of prolonged pain, and in this country at least may drain your life savings into the bank accounts of the A.M.A.. Both prospects seem equally terrifying especially if you hoped to leave a decent estate to your children.

One can avoid these deplorable conditions, however, by moving to a civilized country with a national health plan and legal help to assist you in suicide if you have reached a condition where you can't do it yourself. I personally intend to move to Nederland in the event that a painful, expensive and prolonged death seems inescapable. The medical banditos have made enough money out of me already; I refuse to enrich them further on my way out.

But as for death, and what -- if anything --comes after death, I see no cause for apprehension whatsoever.

To consider the alternatives in order:

Most people through most of history have believed that after death comes rebirth (reincarnation). I think most people, planetwide, still believe that. It fails to terrify me. If I get reborn as a cockroach, I intend to hide in the vicinity of somebody's computer and write poems on the keyboard at night, like archy, the famous roach who left his verse in the typewriter of Don Marquis. If I get reborn as a human, I might meet my wife Arlen again and love her again and marry her again. That sounds great to me.

Other rebirths, as a tree, say, or a blue whale, also seem more entertaining (and educational) than frightening.

Unfortunately, I have no good reasons to believe in reincaration, although I'd sort of like to. I include it only for the sake of completeness.

A sinister rumor, widely believed in the Occident, holds that after death we go to a place called Heaven. From all the descriptions I've read, it sounds dreadful to me. It seems to have a population made up entirely of some gang of Christians; the experts on Heaven disagree about which conglomeration of Christians will qualify, but they always seem to think that they personally belong to that elite group. An eternity with people that conceited seems intolerable to me,but fortunately I am not a Christian so I won't be consigned to such a boring place.

An even more nefarious report appears in the United States Marine Corps hymn:

If the Army and the Navy
ever looked on Heaven's scenes
they would find the streets were guarded
by the United States Marines

A place where every street is guarded by Marines sounds like a particularly vicious police state, especially if Christians run it, and I definitely don't want to go there, even for a visit. I wouldn't even wish it on my worst enemy, if I had any enemies. (Some people hate me for the books I write, but I refuse to hate them back, so they don't count as enemies.)

Fortunately, as noted, I don't qualify for Heaven, with all its harps and fanatic Christians and martial law by Marines. A worse idea, which has terrified millions, claims that some of us will go to a place called Hell, where we will suffer eternal torture. This does not scare me because, when I try to imagine a Mind behind this universe, I cannot conceive that Mind, usually called "God," as totally mad.

I mean, guys, compare that "God" with the worst monsters you can think of - - Adolph Hitler, Joe Stalin, that sort of guy. None of them ever inflicted more than finite pain on their victims. Even de Sade, in his sado-maso fantasy novels, never devised an unlimited torture. The idea that the Mind of Creation (if such exists) wants to torture some of its critters for endless infinities of infinities seems too absurd to take seriously.

Such a derranged Mind could not create a mud hut, much less the exquisitely mathematical universe around us.

If such a monster-God did exist, the sane attitude would consist of practising the Buddhist virtue of compassion. He seems very sick in His head, so don't give way to hatred: try to understand and forgive him. Maybe He will recover his wits some day. (I wrote "He" instead of the fashionable "He or She" because only male Gods appear to have invented Hells. I can't think of a single Goddess who ever created a Hell for people who displeased Her .)

A fourth alternative after-death scenario involves merger with "God" or with "the Godhead" (the latter term seems more popular.) This idea, which seems Hindic in origin, currently enjoys vast popularity with New Agers. I see nothing terrifying here; in fact, I suspect I would enjoy it, based on my previous experiences in which this merging/melting seemed to take place on LSD. An infinite Acid Trip in which the whole universe seems like your body: who could fear that (except Republicans)?

The fifth and, as far as I know, the last thinkable alternative holds that after death comes total oblivion. This has either terrorized or angered many intelligent writers (e.g. Bertrand Russell and Jean Paul Sartre, who seem to have hated "life after death" for not existing, just as they remained permanently pissed off at "God" for not existing. ) Sorry: it doesn't seem terrible to me at all. If I become totally oblivious, I won't know about it (by definition of oblivion.) How can you feel terrified of something you can't experience?

Besides oblivion means freedom from "all the ills the flesh is heir to," from bleeding piles to cancer, including even bad reviews of my books.

Living in New York or Los Angeles seem much worse than not living in Oblivion.

Although I have a few opinions, or hunches, I have no dogma about what happens after death. But none of the above alternatives seem really unpleasant, except the ones that seem too absurd to take seriously.

As some Roman wrote:

Nothing to clutch in life.
Nothing to fear in death.


latebloomer da nutty tarkovsky (latebloomer), Friday, 12 January 2007 06:01 (eighteen years ago)

Amen, sir. Amen.

Thank you for a helluva lot of fun reading the Illuminatus trilogy and then playing various conspiracy game. You made my life a little better, and I bet that can easily be multiplied by a few hundred thousands if not millions.

You know now what comes after: Here's hoping you're somewhere laughing.

Hey Jude (Hey Jude), Friday, 12 January 2007 08:37 (eighteen years ago)

and amen again.

R.I.P.

the same day albert hoffman turned 101 years old. c'mon, tell me that isn't synchronicity.

GOD PUNCH TO GEORGE DORN (yournullfame), Friday, 12 January 2007 10:41 (eighteen years ago)

He knows if god is a crazy woman or not by now.

StanM (StanM), Friday, 12 January 2007 10:46 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

Really digging Cosmic Trigger at the moment and wondering why I didn't get to it any sooner.

Wheal Dream, Friday, 29 October 2010 09:56 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

Five years ago today fnord.

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 12 January 2012 01:10 (thirteen years ago)


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