We May Have The Government, But THEY'VE Got the Money!

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First Soros, now Buffett.

pleased to mitya (mitya), Friday, 30 June 2006 01:55 (nineteen years ago)

"Some of the wealthiest men in the world descend like avenging angels on the populations of the developing world," wrote Population Research Institute president Steven Mosher, a frequent critic of Gates and Buffett. "They seek to decimate their numbers, to foist upon vulnerable people abortion, sterilization and contraception."

yay! hilariously moronic personal attacks win the day again!

kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 30 June 2006 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, because what the developing world needs is more people! DEFINITELY.

Andrew (enneff), Friday, 30 June 2006 02:29 (nineteen years ago)

meanwhile, the Vatican is now threatening excommincation of any scientist working on embryonic stem cell research.

no comment on in-vitro clinics, tho

kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 30 June 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

Referring to Josef Mengele, the infamous Nazi death camp doctor, Euteneuer said Buffett "will be known as the Dr. Mengele of philanthropy unless he repents."

This is just offensive. If this guy genuinely cares about human life then he wouldn't be part of an organisation that actively perpetuates lies about reproduction such as holes in condoms. Grrr. What a cheap move bringing out the Nazi card.

salexandra (salexander), Friday, 30 June 2006 04:08 (nineteen years ago)

the Dr. Mengele of philanthropy

i just like this metaphor. think of all the oxymoronic ways it could work, with the using of an example in an area completely counter or irrelevant to that example

the Bob Dole of used-car salesmen

The Flava Flav of cosmonauts

the Nicole Kidman of 10-pin bowling

the Thurston Moore of international currency speculation

the Luke Skywalker of watermelon transportation

kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 30 June 2006 04:52 (nineteen years ago)

"The merger of Gates and Buffett may spell doom for the families of the developing world," said the Rev. Thomas Euteneuer, a Roman Catholic priest who is president of Human Life International.

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"Oh noes, Planned Parenthood! We're doomed!"

The Dr. Mengele of Philanthropy (Hurting), Friday, 30 June 2006 04:56 (nineteen years ago)

also, remember that abortion, contraception, and sterilization are all the same thing and therefore just as evil.

kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 30 June 2006 05:00 (nineteen years ago)

Why do black people get so uptight over Planned Parenthood? Sanger is dead and Stoddard has been off the board of directors for something like eighty years now!

Cunga (Cunga), Friday, 30 June 2006 06:32 (nineteen years ago)

even if he hadn't decided to give so much of his money to the gates foundation, warren buffett would still be absolutely classic b/c he is the living antithesis to certain right-wing/libertarian "ideals" (if they deserve to be called that) of what a capitalist is "supposed" to be. i wouldn't be shocked if the man has never read a single word of anything ayn rand has ever written, for example.

anyway, i was wondering when the wingnut moonbats would begin to open fire on him (the way that they have opened fire on soros). i guess i have my answer.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 30 June 2006 07:16 (nineteen years ago)

Nobody who's ever achieved anything has read a single word of Ayn Rand. Maybe Geddy Lee.

Whilst I'd happily shoot a pro-lifer in the face as much as the next person, it does still seem like there are sound economic reasons for people in Third World countries to have large families - with no welfare state, the more workers in the family the better - that folks like Gates and Buffett are overlooking in their zeal for Malthusian efficiency.

Goo-night, Swede Hurt (noodle vague), Friday, 30 June 2006 07:30 (nineteen years ago)

Are you saying that I can blame all my failures on Ayn Rand? Argh! Why doesn't anyone warn impressionable teenagers?

Gates and Buffett aren't pursuing "Malthusian efficiency" in the Third World. As the article clearly indicates, a very small percentage of the money goes toward that kind of thing. What does, probably comes up in the context of fighting HIV. Most of their money goes toward vaccinations and the like.

Anyway, there is a curve in these matters - more workers in the family may be helpful, but it also means more mouths to feed.

pleased to mitya (mitya), Saturday, 1 July 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

Nobody who's ever achieved anything has read a single word of Ayn Rand.

republican party to thread!

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Saturday, 1 July 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

it does still seem like there are sound economic reasons for people in Third World countries to have large families

kicker is, most of the stuff i've read is that it doesn't work like that. it's more like you only have a certain amount of resources that you have to divide between an ever-growing number of kids.

kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 1 July 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

I should've said "nobody who's ever achieved anything has taken Ayn Rand seriously." Geddy Lee still honourable exception.

I'm not saying that it is economically sound to have large families, I'm saying that it often appears that way to the people having them. But I do think that the rise in the relative wealth of working class people in the West doesn't directly correlate to limiting family size. In some ways I think smaller families might've been a response to increasing prosperity as much as a catalyst for it. So I would expect the situation to work out the same in developing countries: raise people's living standards and then they'll begin to worry about birth control.

Duck Rivers (noodle vague), Sunday, 2 July 2006 10:17 (nineteen years ago)

on a related note, here's a bit from CJR Daily wondering exactly why the WSJ wrote a piece that strained so hard to paint the Buffet announcement as terrible news...

kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 3 July 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

i agree with the critics that it is a shame it takes charitable multi-zillionaire investors to tackle the most pressing problems in the developing world

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 3 July 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

i agree with that, but it seems a natural result of what happens when elected officials currently in power see no need for public intervention in these problems,

or, as the Professor puts it:

"Where profits cannot be made — conservation, healthcare for the poor — charity is meant to replace justice and the government should not be involved."

kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 3 July 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

I should've said "nobody who's ever achieved anything has taken Ayn Rand seriously."

while her influence may have waned, she really was super important in shaping the ideology of the resurgent republican party circa 1960-90.

obv they didn't take the atheism part seriously. but the parts they liked were v influential.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 3 July 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

That CJR piece makes a pretty good point (or at least raises a good question).

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 3 July 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)


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