World Cup 2006, thread funf (semis and onwards)

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Can we keep this one free of England-related stuff, and just concentrate on the teams left in it?

― Teh littlest HoBBo (the pirate king), Monday, 3 July 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

How many goals are left in the tournament, sadly I fear about 3 or 4!

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 3 July 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

predictions then:

France 1 Portugal 2 (penalty in extra time)

Germany 0 Italy 1 (penalty in extra time)

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 3 July 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

xpost: That sounds about right. Neither Portugal nor France have been what you could call freescoring whirlwinds. Perhaps Italy will surprise everyone and go for all-out attack against Germany? I doubt it.

― Teh littlest HoBBo (the pirate king), Monday, 3 July 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Where can we rake over the coals some more? I have a scab I want to pick.

― Dave B (daveb), Monday, 3 July 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Sssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........
Be gone from this place. It's not for your sort.

― Teh littlest HoBBo (the pirate king), Monday, 3 July 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

The other thread, Dave, as suggested. The one with "4-2" in the title.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 3 July 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

I think the only truth left in the World Cup now is that it's there to lose rather than win. It's gonna be the team left in the final four that makes the smallest fuck-ups that's going to win it.

I would like to see Lippi switch Italy back to the free-scoring 4-4-2 we were playing at the turn of the year against Germany, but I'm guessing WC semi-finals means Tight and Cagey.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 3 July 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

I've gone from wanting France to bundle out in the group stages to wanting them to win the thing.

Ditto. I'm pulling for a Germany v. France final.

― gbx (skowly), Monday, 3 July 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

For the first time, i'm really torn between who i want to win. I've liked watching Germany, have a spot spot for Italy, adore ZZ and admire Portugal (largely through club loyalty). What to do!

― Pete W (peterw), Monday, 3 July 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

I'm 100% behind France against Portugal, maybe 60/40 in favour of Germany against Italy.

― Teh littlest HoBBo (the pirate king), Monday, 3 July 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

Ger 2-1 Ita (from behind)
Fra 3-1 Por

admire Portugal (largely through club loyalty)

Strangely, I don't thrill to the idea of Nuno Valente showing off his WC winners' medal to all and sundry at the Bellefield training ground next month, a la Ray Wilson.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 3 July 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

ooh, Frings banned. Italy's chances have just gone up massively, as have those of Ballack getting that booking, as he'll be called on to play more defensively. It's apparently the Italian press who've stoked the fires on this, so that'll be interesting.

― Dave B (daveb), Monday, 3 July 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

i'm pulling for the germany v. france final as well

― ai lien (kold_krush), Monday, 3 July 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

As I just started to say on the other thread, before remembering it was reserved for scab-picking, I like the look of Italy.

Lehmann, Friedrich, Metzelder, Mertesacker, Lahm, Schneider, Borowski, Ballack, Schweinsteiger, Podolski, Klose

Lahm's been fun. I like Schweinsteiger, but after the first game he hasn't done much. Ballack's been slightly subdued, been very good, but not done anything startling yet.

Goals for: 10 Against:3

Italy (probable): Buffon, Zambrotta, Materazzi, Cannavaro, Grosso, Perrotta, Pirlo, Gattuso, Totti, Toni, Gilardino

I'm not sure about Toni and Gilardino, but I LOVE watching Totti and I think Pirlo is great. He can pick a pass. The defence and goalkeeper are the best left in the tournament.

For:10 Against 3

I reckon Italy have more potential matchwinners, and that they'll go all the way.

― Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Monday, 3 July 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Italy

For:10 Against 1

Sorry. Duh!

― Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Monday, 3 July 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

Frings is out??

ruh-roh.

― gbx (skowly), Monday, 3 July 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

OH SHIT

DO I GO DO FUN, OUTDOORS 4TH OF JULY REVELING TOMORROW, OR BE ANTI-SOCIAL AND STAY HOME AND WATCH GAMES?????

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

― gbx (skowly), Monday, 3 July 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

WATCH GAMES THEN FIREWORKS!!
drink during both. no problem.

― wmlynch (wlynch), Monday, 3 July 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

i'm supposed to go tubing on a river! with beers and girls!!!

― gbx (skowly), Monday, 3 July 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

Predictions :

France 2 Portugal 0

Germany 2 Italy 1

― CaliforniaKlinsy (Dough Boy), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

beer and girls win. be an american, damn it!

― jergins (jergins), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 03:42 (nineteen years ago)

Probably three bad games, 3 goals max and I fear a final deciced on penalties.

A Germany - France final would be sweet though, sort of "let's win this for Battiston!" revenge plot and Zidane holding the cup in his last game ever. Too good to be true I'm afraid. :(

― Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 07:38 (nineteen years ago)

Four bad games - let's not forget the thrills of the third-place decider.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 07:57 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I'm looking forward to the semis. I think France will win 2-1 and Germany will win on pens after a 1-1. I want France to win the whole thing now, I think, but Germany are my sweepstake team so I'm keeping an eye out for them too.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 07:59 (nineteen years ago)

Third-place decider is usually a cracker - 3-2 last time with a goal after 11sec!

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 08:00 (nineteen years ago)

germany haven't lost in Dortmund, and have never beaten Italy in World Cup competition. The last time there was a semi-final it was the 4-3 cracker. Something will give.

― Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 08:13 (nineteen years ago)

Materazzi and Deco to make a difference when they come back. Por and Ita to make the final with a 2-1 score.

― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 08:55 (nineteen years ago)

What, Materazzi to make a difference by conceding several dangerous free kicks and gettign sent off, you mean? Or do you think he'll repeat his only good game ever?

I thought Nesta was fit now. It's a pretty easy choice between him and Materazzi if so.

― Earwig oh! (Mark C), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 09:33 (nineteen years ago)

I'm glad that Materazzi has answered that text message question of yours, Mark. That's why we got rid of him at Goodison.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 09:37 (nineteen years ago)

I heard yesterday Nesta is most likely out for the rest of the WC.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

Prelim recommended sentences in match fixing trial:

Juve - relegated to C1, docked 6 points, stripped of last two titles

Milan - relegated to B, docked 3 points

Fiorentina and Nazio - relegated to B, docked 15 points

Clever - the points deductions mean that upon appeal, they can scale them back and look like they've softened the blow. Not clear whether the points deduction apply this year or next.

― Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 09:45 (nineteen years ago)

Materazzi also scored.

Well surely many not so good players have their best games at a WC, in the same way that some great players have their worst games in their national colours at a WC.

Yes i didn't think Nesta would be fit for the semi-final, at least.

xp = Maybe half of the Italian squad will be jailed between the end of their semi-final victory and the final, meaning Por win the trophy for the first time.

― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 09:50 (nineteen years ago)

Prelim recommended sentences in match fixing trial:
Juve - relegated to C1, docked 6 points, stripped of last two titles
Milan - relegated to B, docked 3 points
Fiorentina and Nazio - relegated to B, docked 15 points

Clever - the points deductions mean that upon appeal, they can scale them back and look like they've softened the blow. Not clear whether the points deduction apply this year or next.

So can someone who is clued in, Dave B perhaps, speculate as to whether there actually will be a mass exodus of players from these teams?

Also are there no financial penalties? Surely Juve will just storm back up the leagues, though they aren't amazingly well supported are they?

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 09:53 (nineteen years ago)

it was weird how Fiorentina came back up to Serie A the LAST time they got booted down for irregularities. i can't remember the details or what happened to the squad. but they did bounce back fairly quickly.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 09:55 (nineteen years ago)

Could it be last season's tally, to stop Lazio and Fiorentina getting into Europe?

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 10:00 (nineteen years ago)

good piece in current LRB on Italian scandal. (subscription site alert)

www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n13/foot02_.html

― Pete W (peterw), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 10:03 (nineteen years ago)

It depends - last time around when something analogous happened at Fiorentina, most players left, but one (name escapes me, used to play for Juve beforehand) stayed, saying that as the club had been bankrupted paying his and his teammates' wages, then it was morally incumbent upon him to start again in Serie C2.

However, I suspect most will leave, because they won't want to work their way back up. Some like Buffon I can see doing it, to become a Juve legend, but others like Ibrahimovic, Vieira, nedved, etc, didn't sign up to third division football.

Juve's support isn't so much in the stadium, as all over Italy. Think Man Utd with crowds of 20K.

― Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 10:07 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah I remember it was Angelo Di Livio that stayed.

I guess for the likes of Nedved it's move or end your career in Serie C and B.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

Angelo DiLivio, Dave. He took a 95% pay cut I believe. But, yeah, everyone else vanished to all the other clubs.

Juve have been seriously considering becoming a touring football team with no home ground, anyway. The theory being that they can attract bigger crowds in, say, southern Sicily or Reggio Calabria than they can in Turin.

(xp)

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 10:11 (nineteen years ago)

So Inter champions, if this goes through?

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 10:14 (nineteen years ago)

I am disappointed there has been no FRINGS AINT WHAT HE USED TO BE headline as yet.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 10:18 (nineteen years ago)

I got really into watching the cup in while in Europe over the last couple weeks (and I've pretty much never watched pro soccer before). Does anyone know when the last three games are going to be on in the U.S.?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 10:18 (nineteen years ago)

What's absolutely fucking retarded is that the Italian FA still haven't decided if Juve and Milan will be representing Italy in the Champions League next season. They've got until the end of the month to submit their participants to UEFA, or else face almost certain expulsion from the major two european tournaments. They've already been chucked out of the Intertoto this season.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

Fiorentina were allowed to skip a league on their way back up.

I'm reading a book on Italian football history at the moment. All these things were happening right from the word go.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 10:22 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan they're on in the US at the same time as they're on everywhere else!

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 10:25 (nineteen years ago)

(haha JtN me too, I have also been waiting for a THESE FOOLISH FRINGS variant but no joy yet)

― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 10:26 (nineteen years ago)

Dom - The whole process has been timetabled by the UEFA deadline - national associations must report to UEFA who their entrants are in the CL and UEFA Cup by July 28th - the tribunal has been compressed and lost one stage in the normal process, meaning the decision will be made in the next week or so, and any appeal (read - the appeal) will be completed by July 27th.

― Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 10:29 (nineteen years ago)

VERY BAD FRINGS

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 10:30 (nineteen years ago)

So the final game is on...Saturday?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 10:36 (nineteen years ago)

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The lovely Emma B has just read it and she's like "what do you mean that's so French?" And I was like, well, in America you'd probably get the guy being "big" and going "if I had the same thing to do over again I would never ever do that, I just hope my family and my fans can eventually find it in their hearts to forgive me" and she's like "but that's so laaaame! In France we're like" and then she gives it the two middle fingers.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

Yup, Roberto Calderoli of la Lega Nord.
Stronzo!

Total scum. Amazing to think his party was part of the ruling coalition for the last 5 years.

― Teh littlest HoBBo (the pirate king), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

So basically he called his sister a whore. IT'S RACISM GONE WILD.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

Watching TF1 now. haha, he ends lots of sentences with "quoi," which is great. c'etait comme ca quoi ! et voila ! "je serai.. moins surveillé quoi"

― dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

meanwhile Greece are back in business

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

daria, that's so French, quoi.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

very interesting. the last thing he talks about in the interview is the remarks of the italian senate VP, and how words like that.. fifa saying they are going to combat racism.. words like that are worse, even, than a gesture. it's funny to watch b/c sometimes he says things very matter of factly and then often just trails off like "voila.. draw your own conclusions."

superfrancais. is that canal+ interview on line anywhere?

re: the 'quoi' thing, it's not the most refined way of speaking is it, which is cool - I mean, I do it habitually but then when talking to profs and such realized I had better try and cut back some.

anyway, Zidane rules. I wonder what he's going to do now..

― dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

I think Zizou's reaction is kind of a cop out.

"There wouldn't be any reaction without a provocation." OK, then don't react. You're a pro. Practice a couple of icy cool lines about not caring what he says and move on.

I did think he was elegant about saying he didn't know what would have happened had he not been expelled.

The 'quoi' thing is kind of like 'like' in American.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

A pleonasm.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

"There wouldn't be any reaction without a provocation."

It's logical! without going off into the realm of what should have happened, clearly what did happen was a reaction ergo there was a provocation.

― dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

The bloke headbutted someone in front of millions of people, for fuck's sake.

― Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

I'm merely saying that he owes it to himself, to himself as a professional, to the other 22 players and to the rest of the coaching staff, not to mention his countrymen his family and his fans not to react to so base a provocation. To do so is not only to legitimate the ones he recieved but to show that they can work and encourage future ones.

I'm not saying that FIFA might not want to investigate this behavior, but regardless of the provocation, reaction is not sportsmanlike, whether the provocation is a verbal taunt, a shove, spitting, kicking, or anything else.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

Count to dix or whatever you have to do, but don't react.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

I have to disagree. It's human nature to react. I would change the rules to allow retaliation, but only on a like-for-like basis: someone hacks you down, you can kick them back; someone calls you a bad name, you can call them one back. Zidane would still fall foul of this law as he would be applying the wrong retaliation, but the ref could still smooth things over by instructing Materazzi to get up and butt ZZ over while ZZ calls him the son of a filthy terrorist whore.

― Teh littlest HoBBo (the pirate king), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

It wasn't related to the game at all, the ball wasn't anywhere near them - ok, this doesn't count as any form of mitigation, but I guess it turned personal the moment Materazzi insulted his family.

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know anything about how families work in the South of France, but isn't it mediterranean to hold the honour of your family above all else?

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

It's also 'human nature' to steal, murder, lie, rape, and pillage and while that would make the game slightly more amusing, think of the groundskeepers, ffs. All that gore, sinew, stray eyeballs and worse strewn across the pitch and only a week to clean it up, sell what's redeemable and get the place spic and span for the next match. Couldn't be done.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

"but the ref could still smooth things over by instructing Materazzi to get up and butt ZZ over while ZZ calls him the son of a filthy terrorist whore"

Haha why do I think this retaliatory system would be rather badly abused pretty quickly!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

I find that when I hold the honor of my family over people they either get excited, get angry, or giggle.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

ok, I might have expressed that incorrectly then, you know what I mean.

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

It's perfectly clear what you meant, Stan. I just have a tediously filthy mind.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

Or should I have said, "L'honneur de ma famille. Je m'en branle'?

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

Do you mean Scotland is another European country outside the UK (it's not)? Or do you mean Mark (or Marko, as he was back then) Viduka learned how to spit when he was at Croatia Zagreb and then drowned West Central Scotland in his spittle when he got here, not knowing how unacceptable he was being?

Ha, the latter! Scotland is a European country, but it's inside the UK. Who thinks otherwise?

― David A. (Davant), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 23:44 (nineteen years ago)

And yes, to whoever was asking, the headbutt to the chest is very unusual, in life as in football.

― David A. (Davant), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

If he'd done that to his face, the groundsman would still be picking up teeth and pieces of Materazzi's lower jaw. In a way, Zidane was actually being very gentle and kind.

― David A. (Davant), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 23:48 (nineteen years ago)

I say, that was a frightfully silly thing I did, what?

(many x-posts)

― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 13 July 2006 08:37 (nineteen years ago)

so, nothing new really in his interview. still, it was nice to hear him talk about it (and the whole WC). I really liked when he talked about his penalty kick against italy : "je voulais que ca reste".
classieux.

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 13 July 2006 08:58 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah well, he really made sure "que ça reste"...

― Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Thursday, 13 July 2006 09:05 (nineteen years ago)

"d'une pierre deux coup", comme on dit !

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 13 July 2006 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, the latter! Scotland is a European country, but it's inside the UK. Who thinks otherwise?

You'd be surprised. I've encountered (British!) people on this board who have expressed thing along these lines.

Anyway, that's a whole other thread (which we've done already, I believe). As you were...

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 13 July 2006 09:15 (nineteen years ago)

'I would change the rules to allow retaliation, but only on a like-for-like basis'

Under this excellent system, would ZZ have been allowed to return the nipple-tweak/insult combo with a wedgie and a curse? A sideburn-twist? A chinese burn? How exact must the retribution be before somebody cries 'escalation'?

― Pete W (peterw), Thursday, 13 July 2006 09:46 (nineteen years ago)

ZZ's comments strike me as profoundly silly. Which is all we can ask for, really.

Has he really retired, completely? He is still listed on the Real Madrid website, together with all the other old fogies.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 13 July 2006 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

Di Stefano is still on there?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 13 July 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

I suppose the referee would have to establish parameters for the retribution before it was dished out - obviously the use of video replays would be crucial here.

― Teh littlest HoBBo (the pirate king), Thursday, 13 July 2006 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

NYPD Harsh buzz in Little Italy

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 13 July 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

Italian View
French View
Japanese View

http://regmedia.co.uk/2006/07/13/image003.gif
http://regmedia.co.uk/2006/07/13/image002.gif
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6339/zidane0bv5ks.gif

US View
Hysterical Media view
Gay Wishful thinking view

http://regmedia.co.uk/2006/07/13/image004.gif
http://regmedia.co.uk/2006/07/13/image005.gif
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/kangaboy3/ilikeham.gif

Nerd View
Actual View

http://xs303.xs.to/xs303/06283/ZinedineidaneeadbuttSupeario.gif
http://regmedia.co.uk/2006/07/13/image001.gif

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 13 July 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

Kiessling has died.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 July 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

It is funny how the "actual view" is so much better than all the souped up ones.

I wonder if we've seen this bit of film more times than the twin towers footage.

Which twin towers footage? I hear myself cry.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 14 July 2006 07:16 (nineteen years ago)

It's the ZineZiZapruder footage of today.

― StanM (StanM), Friday, 14 July 2006 07:19 (nineteen years ago)

It is funny how the "actual view" is so much better than all the souped up ones.

oh i disagree. that Mario one is the best yet.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 14 July 2006 08:11 (nineteen years ago)

I would prefer Zinedine Goes Skiing.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 14 July 2006 08:46 (nineteen years ago)

but how would you tie that in with the headbutt?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 14 July 2006 09:00 (nineteen years ago)

Another camera angle comes to light (not a joke)

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 14 July 2006 09:39 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, that's great. Really - I take it the lipreaders have been at that one?

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 14 July 2006 09:43 (nineteen years ago)

i distinctly saw him say "wanker"

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 14 July 2006 09:59 (nineteen years ago)

If nothing else, that new angle disproves my nipple tweaking theory.

― Teh littlest HoBBo (the pirate king), Friday, 14 July 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

and from yet another angle:

http://www.webpark.ru/uploads29/14_podborka_6.jpg

― StanM (StanM), Saturday, 15 July 2006 10:03 (nineteen years ago)

Valentino Rossi is wearing a Materazzi shirt. Further comment unnecessary.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Sunday, 16 July 2006 10:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like to think I predicted the final headbutt, here on this very thread, although in fact I called it for an earlier match.

― Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Monday, 17 July 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

ITALY BREAKS WORLD CUP

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 10:09 (nineteen years ago)

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