Like for instance: the primary original use of the word "tool" was probably to refer to objects -- first-order, non-abstract tools like hammers and awls. But of course we also say things like "this law is an important tool for fighting organized crime," and have done pretty much forever. And that usage starts off as a bit of a metaphor, right? A kind of second-order comparative use of the word? But of course at this point I think we mostly consider that a non-metaphorical use of the word -- it's drawn into the primary definition of the word.
So, umm ... I guess I'm looking for words like that, where a form of use that seems originally kind of metaphorical turns out to be apt and useful enough that it becomes just plain meaning. (I assume many of them will be like the "tool" example, where a word for something concrete expands to cover things that are abstract, too.)
― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 3 July 2006 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 July 2006 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link
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― jed_ (jed), Monday, 3 July 2006 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Zora (Zora), Monday, 3 July 2006 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link
For example:
"He'll be a great tool in getting this done."
vs
"Are you kidding me? Dude's a complete tool. I'm not talking to him."
― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 3 July 2006 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link
The thing that might mess with my idea on some of these, I guess, is that both senses could trace back to some common source. There's no really good example here, but take "concrete" -- it traces back to the Latin for "to grow together" or "to harden." I could imagine some of these words tracing back to Green or Latin words that actually mean the concept/metaphor more than the physical thing.
"Blueprint" rises above all that, though -- I mean, it's such a specific process-oriented term, named after the printing technique rather than the thing itself!
― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 3 July 2006 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― slugbuggy (slugbuggy), Monday, 3 July 2006 15:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Monday, 3 July 2006 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link
It's like that stoner thing where the super-obvious suddenly seems amazing -- you know, when you're all "you know what's incredible? The Pacific Ocean is, like, huge."
I've just been noticing this too much today, the way 90% of the words we use are built on (haha) metaphor.
― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 3 July 2006 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link
"Tack"
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also-strawman, gatekeeper, ombudsman (maybe, sorta) .. a bunch of other job related words...
― DAVE, for #1 Hits of yesterday and today! (dave225.3), Monday, 3 July 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link
it really is huge though, lookat it!
― rrrobyn sharkattack battleforcenet (rrrobyn), Monday, 3 July 2006 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Monday, 3 July 2006 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― DAVE, for #1 Hits of yesterday and today! (dave225.3), Monday, 3 July 2006 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 3 July 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link
Strawman ... Wireframe...?
― DAVE, for #1 Hits of yesterday and today! (dave225.3), Monday, 3 July 2006 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link
Tiny Elvis: Well, that's good man, that's real good. Hey, Sonny, Red! Look how big that lamp is, man! That's hu-u-uge!
Sonny: [ laughs ]
Red: That's right, E!
Tiny Elvis: Well, man, I don't know how I'd ever turn that thing off, man. That is enormous!
Sonny: That's right, Elvis, that's a big lamp! [ slaps his knee ]
http://www.cagebypage.com/photos/snl_tinyelvis1.jpg http://www.cagebypage.com/photos/snl_tinyelvis3.jpg
― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 3 July 2006 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link
as well as metaphorical noun & verb forms(e.g. "shepherding this project thru")?
Lakoff did point out that even the Lord's Prayer has metaphor in it. The Lord is our shepherd, but He isn't an actual guy in a actual field with a stick and dog, and we are not literally wooly, cloven-hoofed herbivores ambling around in said field. (an interesting contrast to claims the bible has only 100% literal truth)
― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 3 July 2006 17:50 (eighteen years ago) link
Not that there's any particular dividing line with this -- everything's kind of in flux between common metaphorical use and regular concrete use. But I feel like there are some where, if the metaphor were pointed out to you, you might actually be surprised to be reminded that it's a metaphor.
― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 3 July 2006 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link
Incidentally, "tap" probably started in proto-Indo-European as an onomatopoetic word.
― Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 3 July 2006 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link
wouldn't many/most compound english word falls into this?
― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 3 July 2006 18:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Monday, 3 July 2006 18:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 3 July 2006 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Monday, 3 July 2006 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 3 July 2006 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― slugbuggy (slugbuggy), Monday, 3 July 2006 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 3 July 2006 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link
Also "moxie, spunk, vigor" and "debauchery."
― Damn, Atreyu! (x Jeremy), Monday, 3 July 2006 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Damn, Atreyu! (x Jeremy), Monday, 3 July 2006 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link
peruse, scan, dust, put, etc.
― Damn, Atreyu! (x Jeremy), Monday, 3 July 2006 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link
I think "pest" contains its own opposite. Minor annoyance carrier of pestilence.
― slugbuggy (slugbuggy), Monday, 3 July 2006 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link
etc
― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 3 July 2006 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― slugbuggy (slugbuggy), Monday, 3 July 2006 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Maria (Maria), Monday, 3 July 2006 23:43 (eighteen years ago) link
pedantic correction: my quotation wasn't from the lord's prayer, but from the 23rd psalmetc
-- kingfish du lac (jdsalmo...), July 3rd, 2006 6:37 PM. (kingfish 2.0) (link)
― Fluffy Bear, Grand Admiral of the Hastings Thread Navy (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainb, Wednesday, 5 July 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link