"Can bachelors save damsels from abortion?" from Salon

Well if it doesnt have to be, doesn't that undo the fundies anti-gay-marriage thing on top of all this then? God, make up yr minds you xians.

I like the notion that because it's on a soap opera, it automatically means it's a common female fantasty. I mean, surely I'm not the only one who remembers the whole "Marlena is possessed by the devil" thing on Days. I will admit to wanting to come back from the dead and interrupt future nuptials, but that is just because I enjoy wedding cake.

Um. Including myself, I know plenty of women who've fallen pregnant unplanned and there's no way that "not being married" was the reason for the termination in any of the cases. In fact I can't get my head around that being "THE" reason for anyone to terminate a pregnancy, because it is absurd. Not being able to in any way at all afford to raise a child (eg being a student or unemployed), being poor in health, being completely unwilling/wanting to ever have kids - those are surely much more pressing reasons (and ususally one is protecting against that with contraception, and that has failed - so its not like this is some casual "whoops I did it again" situation).

Mind you - my mother once mused to me that if I did ever have kids (tho she knows I dont want any) then she supposed I'd be getting married as well. Why, I asked? She said "well you cant have kids if you're not gonna marry the guy". I couldnt believe my mother said such a thing (she's not rabidly religious or conservative at all but she is a product of nice 50s ladylikeness).

Hail Mary
In football, the Hail Mary is a long-shot near-impossible pass made in a game in the attempt to win. Teams that play well should never need it. It is a last-ditch effort.

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In the world of sex, it's abortion. You should play well, use condoms. Make sure she is on birth control. Remember, it only takes once to get pregnant. That is a well played game: the one where nobody gets knocked up. However, if she does, you go for the Hail Mary: your last-ditch effort to not be locked into 18+ years of child support payments. Suggest abortion, as comfortingly as you can. This is the endgame, you do what you have to in order to win.

Say things like "I'm not ready to have kids now, because when we have kids, I want them to have a stable family." Make her believe that you're going to stick with her. If she has the abortion, will you stick around? It's up to you, really, but the general answer is no. After the abortion, get her an egg mc muffin and dump her. That simple. Why? Well, she obviously wasn't on birth control. Or if she was, she wasn't using it correctly. You used your birth control. She wasn't upholding a part of her bargain that she said she was.

Hail Mary should never be necessary. You should play so that you will never need it. But it's there. There's also some other techniques that you can use. If the condom breaks and you didn't catch it, take her drinking the next night (or weekend). Get her absolutely trashed. This is one of the few times it's ok to spend more than 40 dollars.

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Regardless of you being absolutely sure, always take a paternity test. After all if the baby is not yours then why should you get stuck paying child support for someone else's baby.

No man, good or bad is going to take burned-out trash and her bastard offspring without big compensation."

Oh, wait a minute, on second thought, we already have all of that. Never mind."

"So you want to reduce abortions by geting pro-life males to marry pregnant single women. The you base your program on the premise that the women will be so impressed by the moral courage of the men that they will spurred on towards successful marriage and parenthood.

What you fail to mention is that the area of sexual and reproductive rights has always been totally dominated by women. At best men have been treated as little more than helpful bystanders.

We claim that we live in an “enlightened” world where women have supposedly gained “equality” with men.

However, if a woman gets pregnant, she can abort the child, unilaterally put the child up for adoption, have the child and then force a man to pay for the upbringing of that child for 18 years with no access, or have the child and force a man to pay for the upbringing of the child with conditional access (i.e. marriage).

A man has absolutely no legal standing in any of these decisions and in many cases if he opposes the woman’s unilateral choice he will be sent to jail for his troubles.

How is this equality of the sexes?

We have gone from a situation 100 years ago where men and women were each given roughly equal rights and reponsibilies in the areas that had most impact on their lives.

With high infant mortality rates, and without the aid of the pill and modern contraceptives, nature (and survival) dictated that 19th century women places most their energies into child rearing and family. In exchange for their sacrifice, women were given an almost iron clad guarantee (both legally and culturall) that their
needs (and wants) would be met inside the institution of marriage and family.

Because women were tied up with raising children, men were expected (and forced if necessary) to protect and provide for women and children. This condemned many men to life-long servitude in back-braking and dangerous professions that quiet litterally condemned them to an early death. In exchange for this sacrafice, men were given the certainty of a stable home and a loving family.

Some idiots in the 21 st century actually claimed that men had all the power in the 19 th century because they were the ones who served in government and ones who made most of the the decisions in public life. What they fail to menion is that less than 0.5 % of all men actually had the opportunity to excise this
“power” and that many of those who did so were conditioned from birth to put the needs (and wants) of women and children ahead of those of men.

Some of these 21 st idiots even claim that women were treated as little more than men’s property. Again they also fail to mention that husbands were often sent to prison and labor camps for the debts and crimes of their wives. Nor do they tell you that these men were expected to die (collectively and individually) in defence of “their” women and children.

So don’t tell me that women are hard done by today because they hold 99 % of all the sexual and reproductive power.

If you want to have a lower number of abortion then either give back 50 % of all sexual and reproductive power to men or have it forcefully taken from you by the development of the artificial womb.

It is time for change or history will sweep you away.
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It is time for change or history will sweep you away.

This is actually really funny, tho.

Man between this and the Aus big brother "cock in the face" incident I reallya hate people at the moment :(

What you fail to mention is that the area of sexual and reproductive rights has always been totally dominated by women. At best men have been treated as little more than helpful bystanders.

We claim that we live in an “enlightened” world where women have supposedly gained “equality” with men.

However, if a woman gets pregnant, she can abort the child, unilaterally put the child up for adoption, have the child and then force a man to pay for the upbringing of that child for 18 years with no access, or have the child and force a man to pay for the upbringing of the child with conditional access (i.e. marriage).

A man has absolutely no legal standing in any of these decisions and in many cases if he opposes the woman’s unilateral choice he will be sent to jail for his troubles.

How is this equality of the sexes?

We have gone from a situation 100 years ago where men and women were each given roughly equal rights and reponsibilies in the areas that had most impact on their lives.

With high infant mortality rates, and without the aid of the pill and modern contraceptives, nature (and survival) dictated that 19th century women places most their energies into child rearing and family. In exchange for their sacrifice, women were given an almost iron clad guarantee (both legally and culturall) that their
needs (and wants) would be met inside the institution of marriage and family.

Because women were tied up with raising children, men were expected (and forced if necessary) to protect and provide for women and children. This condemned many men to life-long servitude in back-braking and dangerous professions that quiet litterally condemned them to an early death. In exchange for this sacrafice, men were given the certainty of a stable home and a loving family.

Some idiots in the 21 st century actually claimed that men had all the power in the 19 th century because they were the ones who served in government and ones who made most of the the decisions in public life. What they fail to menion is that less than 0.5 % of all men actually had the opportunity to excise this
“power” and that many of those who did so were conditioned from birth to put the needs (and wants) of women and children ahead of those of men.

Some of these 21 st idiots even claim that women were treated as little more than men’s property. Again they also fail to mention that husbands were often sent to prison and labor camps for the debts and crimes of their wives. Nor do they tell you that these men were expected to die (collectively and individually) in defence of “their” women and children.

So don’t tell me that women are hard done by today because they hold 99 % of all the sexual and reproductive power.

If you want to have a lower number of abortion then either give back 50 % of all sexual and reproductive power to men or have it forcefully taken from you by the development of the artificial womb.

It is time for change or history will sweep you away."

wow

The Prairie Muffin Manifesto

18) Prairie Muffins are fiercely submissive to God and to their husbands.

19) Prairie Muffins appreciate godly role models, such as Anne Bradstreet, Elizabeth Prentiss and Elisabeth Elliot. They do not idolize Laura Ingalls Wilder (Little House on the Prairie) or Louisa May Alcott (Little Women); while they may enjoy aspects of home life presented in their books, PMs understand that the latent humanism and feminism in these stories and in the lives of these women is not worthy of emulation.

and, nothing ironic whatsoever about the name either

9) Prairie Muffins do not reflect badly on their husbands by neglecting their appearance; they work with the clay God has given, molding it into an attractive package for the pleasure of their husbands.

Seems to me that said paraslysis is what the Prairie Muffins are all about.