CIA to bin Laden: "ok, you win"

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WASHINGTON—The CIA has closed down a secret unit that for a decade had the mission of hunting Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and his top lieutenants, intelligence officials say.

The terrorist tracking unit, known inside the spy agency as "Alec station," was disbanded late last year and its analysts reassigned to other offices within the Central Intelligence Agency's Counterterrorist Center, the officials said Monday.

The decision is a milestone of sorts for the agency, which created the unit before bin Laden became a household name and bolstered its ranks after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, when U.S. President George W. Bush pledged to bring him to justice "dead or alive."

The realignment reflects a view that Al Qaeda is no longer as hierarchical as it once was, intelligence officials said, as well as growing concern about Al Qaeda-inspired groups that have begun carrying out attacks independent of bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri.

CIA officials said tracking bin Laden and his deputies remains a high priority, and that the decision to disband the unit is not a sign that the effort has slackened. Instead, the officials said, the realignment reflects a belief that the agency can better deal with high-level threats by focusing on regional trends rather than on specific organizations or individuals.

"The efforts to find Osama bin Laden are as strong as ever," said Jennifer Dyck, a CIA spokeswoman. "This is an agile agency, and the decision was made to ensure greater reach and focus" for counterterrorism efforts.

The CIA's decision to close the bin Laden unit was first reported Monday by National Public Radio.

The disclosure came as the wife of slain Al Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi said her husband was sold out by fellow Al Qaeda leaders in exchange for a promise to ease up on the search for bin Laden.

Michael Scheuer, a former senior CIA official who was the first head of the bin Laden unit, said he believed the move reflected a view within the agency that bin Laden is no longer the threat he once was. He said he believes that view is mistaken.

"These days at the agency, bin Laden and Al Qaeda appear to be treated merely as first among equals," Scheuer said.

In recent years, the war in Iraq has stretched the resources of the intelligence community and the Pentagon, creating new priorities for U.S. officials tracking terror threats. For instance, the bulk of the military's classified counterterrorist units, like the army's Delta Force, had been redirected from the hunt for bin Laden to assist in the search for al-Zarqawi, who was killed last month in Iraq.

An intelligence official said the closing of the bin Laden unit reflected a greater grasp of the terrorist organization. "Our understanding of Al Qaeda has greatly evolved from where it was in the late 1990s," the official said, but added, "There are still people who wake up every day with the job of trying to find bin Laden."

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

Ice Cold in Alec

Earwig oh! (Mark C), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

The disclosure came as the wife of slain Al Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi said her husband was sold out by fellow Al Qaeda leaders in exchange for a promise to ease up on the search for bin Laden.

Fascinating

¡Vamos a matar, Dadaismus! (Dada), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

J.D., if you read the article, this is hardly the CIA saying "ok, you win"...

(...assuming you had any trust in the CIA in this context all along)

San Diva Gyna (and a Masala DOsaNUT on the side) (donut), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

It's business as usual.

San Diva Gyna (and a Masala DOsaNUT on the side) (donut), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

i dunno, the "we will remain vigilant" stuff sounds like spin control to me...

jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

The conspiracy side of me thinks the CIA said "ok, you win" around six years ago.

San Diva Gyna (and a Masala DOsaNUT on the side) (donut), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Bin Laden is an actor.

Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

A Mexican actor who can "play Arab."

Cunga (Cunga), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

I thought Anthony Quinn was dead?

¡Vamos a matar, Dadaismus! (Dada), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

This kind ofschadenfreude at the CIA's failure is just the kind of thing that feeds a) right-wing accusations of people looking at the problem of terrorism sensibly as being "defeatist," and b) gets the middle of the road fired up about wanting to punish specifically Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, thereby missing the point that terrorism is not just a problem of one person and his entourage.

That said and lecture read, I'm surprised it took them this long to disband the unit.

pleased to mitya (mitya), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Can someone summarise in a paragraph what Al-Qaeda and similar groups are aiming to achieve in real terms (i.e. what it would take for them to think "great, all done, we can call off the terrorism now")? I've either lost track or I've never really known.

Earwig oh! (Mark C), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

Sharia in every country?

GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

wasn't it originally:

(1) kicking the U.S. out of saudi arabia [done]

(2) establishing some sorta caliphate/theocracy encompassing most of the countries in the middle east

kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

Umm... the collapse of Western society?

First of all, I'm not sure there is much more of a truly common goal beyond that, or less sarcastically, simply weakening western culture and influence. My recollection is that the original bug in Bin Laden's pants was US forces in Saudi Arabia, but obviously we've moved far beyond that. Trying to find a particularly sensible political goal that ties bombings in Bali and attacks on the US is pretty tough. Perhaps establishment of an Islamic government in all majority Islamic countries, including indepedence of subnational Muslim areas in larger non-Muslim states (eg., bits of Philippines, Chechnya?)

pleased to mitya (mitya), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think its that Bin Laden/Al-Zwahiri lack coherent goals or a political philosophy so much as their goals/philosophy have been developed in a context largely foreign and incomprehensible to the rest of the world. But kingfish OTM, particularly with point no. 2, which I think is their clearest goal - they definitely have a hard-on for the glories of the muslim world of the past, the caliphate, etc.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

Let's not forget they hate non-Sunni Muslims too... right?

Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

(fwiw, the Sunni/Shi'a schism stems directly from the establishment of the caliphate)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

kingfish you forgot .5) convince someone, anyone to give you an ounce of respect, which after years of being unable to achieve in the middle east, they accomplished the moment john mccain said "this is an act of war"

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

BTW I'd question the reliability of Zarqawi's wife as a source on supposed dealings between U.S. intelligence and Al Qaeda.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

...what Al-Qaeda and similar groups are aiming to achieve in real terms...

Their very long term goal is world domination by Islamist military, economic and cultural power - similar to the domination now enjoyed by the USA and Europe.

Their mid-term goal is to capture power in some key Islamic countries such as Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan and Indonesia.

Prior to that, they wish to establish practical quasi-governmental control of various 'backwater' Islamic areas, such as Sudan, the border of Afghanistan and Pakistan, and the outlying islands of Indonesia, that are weakly governed or semi-anarchic now.

In pursuit of these goals they seek to create and maintain a logistical network capable of recruiting and training soldiers who are willing to die for al-Q, collecting and directing money and arms, and (very importantly) disseminating some pretty sophisticated propaganda as widely as possible - including "propaganda of the deed" such as the 9/11 attacks and their other "terrorist" actions.

It's really a pretty impressive outfit when you consider what they've accomplished. They seem to be well on track to meeting many of the minor goals that must be preliminary to achieving their major goals. Western efforts at counter-force and counter-propaganda have been pretty dismal by comparison, as measured by the crowing that we do when we kill just one guy like Zarqawi, since we have no better achievments to crow about. This does zero to weaken al-Q. Killing bin Laden, OTOH, would be rather more of a deadly blow to al-Q, in that it strikes directly at their prestige. He's the key guy.

Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

killing him wouldn't accomplish much, I don't think. it would hamper them strategically in the short-term but come ON, has there ever been a more martyrdom-centric political philosophy than radical Islamo-fascism? At this point Bin Laden's probably worth more to the movement dead than alive - I doubt he's doing much effective plotting from those caves in Afghanistan.

At any rate, its really Al-Zwahiri who seems like the brains of the operation...

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

Bin Laden's brain is not the important asset. It is his prestige, his name, his face, his aura of being so powerful or so blessed by Allah that, while the entire Western world wants him dead, he lives on to taunt them to thier faces. It doesn't matter that he lives in a cave, unable to show his face except via videotape; his defiance is what matters. He is al-Q's amulet, their good-luck charm, their smiling warrant of the West's impotence before God's might.

Al-Zwahiri may be the effective brain, but he would have to invent another bin Laden in order to leverage his plans as he wishes, and that takes a lot of time.

Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno, I can see a dead Bin Laden recruiting more young fresh meat than a live one. tho obviously its debatable....

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

Riddle me this, Shakey. If bin Laden is so valuable to al-Q as a martyr, what strange scruple prevents them from buying themselves one exceptionally valuable fly-blown bin Laden corpse and reaping all the advantages that would gain them? Bin Laden could be martyred two minutes after he is more valuable dead than alive.

So, why ain't he dead?

Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

hmm you have a point there.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

obviously it's debatable

michael ian blakk (account), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

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michael ian blakk (account), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

The realignment reflects a view that Al Qaeda is no longer as hierarchical as it once was, intelligence officials said, as well as growing concern about Al Qaeda-inspired groups that have begun carrying out attacks independent of bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri.

Hah. If they're closing it down because they don't see Al Qaeda as being hierarchical, then the whole thing was a waste in the first place.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

Trying to find a particularly sensible political goal that ties bombings in Bali and attacks on the US is pretty tough.

I have a feeling Bali was as much to do with Indonesia's rather shaky relationship with Australia, as anything else.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 6 July 2006 01:00 (nineteen years ago)

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Mr. (Mr.Que), Monday, 10 July 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)


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