Is our childrens fattey? Should we tell them?

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Labeling a child obese might "run the risk of making them angry, making the family angry," but it addresses a serious issue head-on, said Dr. Reginald Washington, a Denver pediatrician and co-chair of an American Academy of Pediatrics obesity task force.

― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

You ain't fat, you ain't fat...

http://www.hss.pl/uploads/screens/weird_al_yankovic-fat.jpg

― Rev. PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie 2), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

"If that same person came into your office and had cancer, or was anemic, or had an ear infection, would we be having the same conversation?

"Bad news - you have cancer. And I don't mean to anger you or your family, but you're fat."

― DAVE, for #1 Hits of yesterday and today! (dave225.3), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

Obese "sounds mean. It doesn't sound good," said Trisha Leu, 17, who thinks the proposed change is a bad idea.
The Wheeling, Illinois, teen has lost 60 pounds since March as part of an adolescent obesity surgery study at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

"When you're young, you don't understand what obese means," Leu said. "I still don't understand it."

Ah, you have to love the U.S. education system.

― GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

They should make more of an effort so speak on the same level as American teens, like, "You're so fat, when you back up, you beep."

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

When you're filled with cancer cells, people don't call you "cancer."

― John W. Smoke, Jr. (Uri Frendimein), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

How long before insurers refuse to pay on health problems that are linked to obesity that the patient was warned about? Or drinking, smoking or any other lifestyle choice?

― I will commence to drop a knowledge bomb. (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

It's not like the kids these kids go to school with don't call them a billion times worse things. At least the doctor can actually help make them not fat.

Although I don't really think gastric bypass surgeries are something children should be having.

― you can email me if you wish to challenge the truth (nickalicious), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

I mean...

Obese "sounds mean. It doesn't sound good," said Trisha Leu, 17, who thinks the proposed change is a bad idea.

Not nearly as mean as fat fuck or thunderthighs or Goodyear or "Chunk" etc.

Grow one balls, American teen fatties.

― you can email me if you wish to challenge the truth (nickalicious), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

parents need to teach their kids how to eat instead of shoving them in front of the tv with a bag of funyuns and going off to play texas hold 'em on the internets.

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

I blame a combination of over-indulgence born of consumerism and high fructose corn syrup.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

"Hey, cancery-cancer-cancer!"

― John W. Smoke, Jr. (Uri Frendimein), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

there aren't any commercials telling us how AWESOME AND EXTREME lettuce and brown rice are. kids respond to pizza hut (and those ads DO make pizza hut's inedible starchy slime look tasty, i'll admit).

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

Can you imagine what a waste of money an extreme vegetable commercial would be?

― John W. Smoke, Jr. (Uri Frendimein), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

.. and car culture and that kids can take gym class in summer school and be slugs the rest of the year, wtf, amiright?

xpost

"Little ear-infection headache! Can't hear too good or concentrate!"

― DAVE, for #1 Hits of yesterday and today! (dave225.3), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

American parents in particular need to grow one balls. So many times I've witnessed other parents give in to their childrens' food fetishes. Offer them healthy foods, if they don't eat it, tell them tough titty (tough titty but also this is for your own good, fatty). Also I really seriously promise that there IS a happy medium between outside play and Playstation. I know it's summer in America and it's hot outside. That's why there are POOLS, American parents.

I find this one topic which generally leaves me completely infuriated with American culture.

― you can email me if you wish to challenge the truth (nickalicious), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever happened to building character?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

It runs deeper than that too.. all of the fear about abductions, bike accidents, etc.. parents are afraid to let their kids out on their own.. plus there are fewer places for kids to go, but that's no excuse - just an additional factor of bullshit American culture helping to make kids fat.

― DAVE, for #1 Hits of yesterday and today! (dave225.3), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

My sister in law lets her 5 year old eat nothing but McDonalds, ice cream and ranch dressing because he throws tantrums when he doesn't get his own way. It is great parenting skills like these that have led to the obesity problem in the U.S.

― GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

It's pretty hard to reverse once the kid's 5 too.. Having never given the little shit that horrible food in the first place would have been .. less lazy.

― DAVE, for #1 Hits of yesterday and today! (dave225.3), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

Also, yes the bombardment of crap food advertising is unavoidable, and yes it makes crap food all romanticized in the children's minds. Once again it's up to the parent to grow one balls and be like, you know what kids?, this food can ruin your body, which you only get one of. We can go to Pizza Slut, let's say, NEXT FRIDAY, as for the 13 days leading up to that, you are eating PB&J, my child. You will thank me when you're not a fat stupid 17 year old who doesn't know what "obese" means.

― you can email me if you wish to challenge the truth (nickalicious), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

when i was in first grade we got special stickers and buttons and stuff for reading books. i think for reading 5 books or something we got a FREE personal pan pizza from pizza hut! i think they should give the kids carrots instead.

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

But I think you could definitely market healthy eating and exercise to kids - just use the right atheletes and pop stars and models and imply that it will make kids more popular and get them laid (which it probably will). Don't tell me you didn't drink more milk as a result of that "It Does a Body Good" campaign. And there's plenty of profit to be made off it too whether it's [whatever the vegetable grower's association is called] or the manufacturers of sports equipment. Fuck, you could even market health clubs to teens.

It may be cynical, but I think that's the way to change things.

― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

Don't tell me you didn't drink more milk as a result of that "It Does a Body Good" campaign.

I sure as hell didn't. I fucking hate milk as a beverage; give me water any day.

― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

And what's the deal with these "new" "flavored water" "drinks". Like water is all of a sudden SHITTY.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

i think for reading 5 books or something we got a FREE personal pan pizza from pizza hut!

I thought this was the best scam ever. I was like "haha, I was going to read those books anyway but I'll take your free pizza as well, sucka!"

Carrots might have put me off reading forever, though.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.323.addr.com/pesha/bookit.gif

― SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

i dunno, my mother's maniacal preaching about losing weight when i was a kid totally fucked me up a bit.

― i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

pizza hut also had the free pizza for straight a's deal. i think they were trying to create an army of brilliant fat people.

― SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah BOOK IT. just kidding about the carrots. kids naturally like pizza!

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

yeah mandee kind of otm. i was a fattish kid and my dad would say shit about it and it kind of put me off caring about it for a long time. i didn't become skinny until i decided by myself that i didn't want to be a fattey.

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

two thin slices of pizza aren't really that packed full of calories.

― Rev. PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie 2), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

just because junk food was never around, i sort of became obsessed with it -- and when the opportunity arose to indulge in sweets or cakes and what not, I would always totally pig out.

― i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

it's all about soluble fiber and salt and sugar (xpost)

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

once like a month ago i ate an entire medium pizza. still not a fattey!

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

I could see that Mandee, that is a shame. There is definitely a difference between eating/living healthy and "losing weight" that it seems most Americans are completely (willfully?) ignorant of.

Oh and...

But I think you could definitely market healthy eating and exercise to kids

I believe Nickelodeon has deals with produce distributors to incorporate images of popular characters like Dora the Explorer and Spongebob Squarepants on their goodies.

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― you can email me if you wish to challenge the truth (nickalicious), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

I remember that one time when I ate an entire large pizza. And the hundred times after that.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

don't remind me of the dreaded doublemelt summer of 2004. total fattey.

i used to work at this place where it was totally common for each person to order their own medium pizza for lunch. wtf? and it was only like $5!

― i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

I blame a combination of over-indulgence born of consumerism and high fructose corn syrup.

HFCS is bad news...my wife switched to diet sodas and is down 20 lbs. and counting.

― I will commence to drop a knowledge bomb. (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

I've become disgusted at how many foods contain HFCS. Whole wheat bread! yogurt! I mean dr. pepper, I know what I'm in for. But sneaking it in my bread? That ain't right.

― Ms. Misery TX (MissMiseryTX), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I really doubt pizza is as good an example of the horrendously unhealthy crap that ruins childrens' bodies as SODA.

xpost which contains shit tons of HFCS

― you can email me if you wish to challenge the truth (nickalicious), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

There's no doubt that it becomes more difficult to eat healthy, exercise when one's attitudes about those things are entangled in difficult emotions regarding one's parents, but I doubt that's most obese people's problem. Fact is, my parents didn't make ENOUGH of an issue about my eating and exercise, and they didn't really teach me how to eat healthy (half a box of "lowfat cookies" is not "eating healthy") and it was mainly on my own that I got into better shape.

One key point that always gets lost is that calories are calories and eating way too much whole grain cereal (especially if it has added sugar) and drinking way too much juice (100% juice often has as much sugar as soda) can still make you fat. Course, if you're eating genuinely healthier foods, you're probably not getting all the added corn syrup and other crap so you're not going to get AS fat.

― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

I blame a combination of over-indulgence born of consumerism and high fructose corn syrup.

Or bottle feeding. The theory goes that bottle feeding creates more obese people (as opposed to breastfeeding). I guess I can blame my mum for being obsessed with food then? Actually no! I blame my doctor: when they discovered my sugar level was below zero (or rather extremely low) they recommended that I drank coke with grape-sugar (or however you call it in English)! Before that I'd rarely if ever consume sugar (in whatever form), after that I just drank gallons of coke.

The doctor said to me that I had a inclination (?) to become obese. That woke me up. I dropped about 15 kilos after that. But I gained some of it back after having the baby. Boo. :-(

my wife switched to diet sodas and is down 20 lbs. and counting.

So how's her stomach doing? I think diet coke (and other sodas) are just nasty on the stomach.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

maybe calories are calories, but ppl who say "oh pizza doesn't actually have that many calories" are MISSING THE POINT (what about all the saturated fat, cholesterol, carbs/white flour, the sugar or corn syrup used to make the pizza sauce, nitrites in pepperoni and just plain unidentifiable weird shit in sausage, etc).

the idea is to have a low-calorie diet but fill it up with good, useful calories.

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

California has banned the sale of carbonated soda in its public schools. I don't dig the Governator but that was at least one cool thing he's done.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

We need to encourage teenage smoking. That's good for 10-15 pounds apiece right there.

― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

I...that's a shocker. Cool.

unfortunate xpost

― you can email me if you wish to challenge the truth (nickalicious), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

The paradox of America's obsessions with weight loss (which I don't believe is exactly synonymous with healthy eating) and junk food never fails to amaze me.

― you can email me if you wish to challenge the truth (nickalicious), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

fat kids are so depressing.

I was hanging out with the wife's best friend's kids and one of them is 5 year's old and told me several times that he was on "a diet" (apparently of his own free will - his mom was taken aback by this bit of info). Now granted the kid is a total porker (thanks to his dad feeding him bacon every day for the first couple years of his life) but it's sad to see the whole diet/binge cycle already deeply ingrained in a child who's barely old enough to read. It's like I could see all this kid's lifelong weight issues laid out like a map...

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

We need to encourage teenage smoking. That's good for 10-15 pounds apiece right there.

my mom has lost a lot of weight over the past couple of years, but she smokes more than she ever has, and drives out to indian reservations on long island on the weekends so she can get her discount cigarettes in bulk. she traded in one addiction for another, basically (and it's fine if she gets lung cancer because everyone will still tell her how great she looks).

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

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Andrew: most likely, yeah. I think though at least our processed foods might be a little less ridiculous in the levels of sugar and trans fats? Maybe? I admit Ive done no real research to back that assumption up.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 6 July 2006 03:47 (nineteen years ago)

I just remember reading in the paper a few months ago that "Australia is now the world's fattest nation." By what metric that was judged, I've no idea.

Junk/processed food is most certainly the culprit here. There are whole aisles of the supermarket which are just full of crap which has little to no nutrional value that people are buying and eating instead of traditional, nutritious foods. (because they're easier to prepare, and "taste better" due to higher salt/sugar content)

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 6 July 2006 03:57 (nineteen years ago)

xxpost when I was in school, the iconic lunch entree was a "Taco Snak" a burrito? wrapped in a plastic bag half-filled with thick grease. The ? is from the fact I never went near one(I subsisted on a candy bar and popcorn lunch for 6+ years, granted, but I was a metabolic anomaly + had to schlep 2 miles with a 20 lb. backpack every day for most of that time). I'd be surprised if school lunches have gotten any better since then.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Thursday, 6 July 2006 03:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah I always get annoyed seeing all the processed shit in the supermarket that'll say "low fat!" or "lite!" when it is like, a bag of lollies loaded with sugar or a bag of "baked" crisps low(ER) in fat but loaded with msg and salt.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 6 July 2006 04:00 (nineteen years ago)

We didnt have school lunches at my school - just the school canteen, but of course it sold meat pies, sausage rolls, cream buns, coke, sugary fruit drink boxes, lollies, etc etc.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 6 July 2006 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

Sherbert vs. ice cream vs. skim milk vs. tofutti

― John W. Smoke, Jr. (Uri Frendimein), Thursday, 6 July 2006 04:33 (nineteen years ago)

Sherbert vs. Sherbet

(the second r seems to be the norm now on packaging)

― John W. Smoke, Jr. (Uri Frendimein), Thursday, 6 July 2006 04:35 (nineteen years ago)

look into the eyes of evil
http://jschumacher.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/lil_debbie.jpg

― timmy tannin (pompous), Thursday, 6 July 2006 04:57 (nineteen years ago)

or, perhaps we wouldn't have as much as a problem if we actually had far more physical activity for either kids or adults

― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 6 July 2006 05:00 (nineteen years ago)

Kids do still do sports and PE once or twice a week, surely? Tell me they do!!?!?

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 6 July 2006 05:20 (nineteen years ago)

i think plenty of american schools have been cutting down on recess time

― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 6 July 2006 05:22 (nineteen years ago)

There was a good article about child diabetes in The Weekend Australian magazine last month.

Of course diet, exercise and advertising contribute to the onset of type 2 diabetes, but one of the most interesting facts from this article is that children are eating 10% more than they were 20 years ago. It's also hardly surprising that there's a correlation between parental obesity and child obesity - a child with obese parents is 10 times more likely to be obese themselves.

Quebec has banned junk food ads aimed at children since 1978, yet has still failed to resolve obesity problems.

One behavioural researcher argues that if every person reduced their calory intake by 100 calories a day, 90% of the population wouldn't put on excess weight. We all just need to stop eating less and exercising more, esp. of "empty calory" foods like cake and biscuits which have high calory counts, but return little nutritional value.

Studies also suggest that extra calories consumed are from sugar and not fat - ie primarily soft drinks. "Low-fat" products usually increase sugar content to compensate for altered taste. In Australia, the average person's yearly consumption of soft drinks is 120 litres. A can of coke is 161 calories - one-twelfth of the daily energy requirement for the average adult male (2000 calories). Pretty disgusting stuff.

I think a balanced diet and exercise are equally important, but at least if someone is eating relatively healthily while not exercising enough, they are not gaining that extra body fat which can lead to diabetes and other health problems.

― salexandra (salexander), Thursday, 6 July 2006 08:51 (nineteen years ago)

When did the average adult male go from 2,500 to 2,000 calories? That's the female figure, isn't it?

― Earwig oh! (Mark C), Thursday, 6 July 2006 09:10 (nineteen years ago)

Kids do still do sports and PE once or twice a week, surely? Tell me they do!!?!?
-- Trayce (spamspanke...) (webmail), Today 6:20 AM. (later) (link)

They do.

My kids are both teh skinny.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 6 July 2006 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

They can get around it if they want, though, in high school. At our high school kids could take PE, band or chorus.

― I will commence to drop a knowledge bomb. (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 6 July 2006 09:42 (nineteen years ago)

When did the average adult male go from 2,500 to 2,000 calories? That's the female figure, isn't it?

Yes it is. Science dude was wrong. Although about 2100 calories is recommended for sedentary men.

― salexandra (salexander), Thursday, 6 July 2006 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if there's a formula to work out what 2 hours walking and 3 hours hard cycling a week allows me to eat?

― Earwig oh! (Mark C), Thursday, 6 July 2006 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

Well am not sure how accurate it is, but this site provides a formula to calculate individual calorie requirements, including what they call a "Physical Activity Ratio" according to different activities:

http://www.weightlossforall.com/calorie-requirements-daily.htm

― salexandra (salexander), Thursday, 6 July 2006 11:03 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.weightlossforall.com/calorie-requirements-daily.htm

If you're doing that much exercise though you can probably just eat sensibly until you feel full. Remember everyone, small mouthfuls and CHEW properly to avoid over-eating, as your stomach is usually filled before you feel filled (if that makes any sense, tongue-twister galore).

― salexandra (salexander), Thursday, 6 July 2006 11:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oops. That wasn't meant to happen. My post was not yet full!

― salexandra (salexander), Thursday, 6 July 2006 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

It had seconds!

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 6 July 2006 11:19 (nineteen years ago)

Haha. Please sir, can I have some more? Oliver Twist does not set a good example! We should all blame Roman Polanski.

― salexandra (salexander), Thursday, 6 July 2006 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

Roly Poly, eatin' corn and taters
Hungry every minute of the day
Roly Poly, gnawin' on a biscuit
Long as he can chew it, it's OK...
He can eat an apple pie
And never even bat an eye
He likes everything from soup to hay
Roly Poly, daddy's little fatty
Bet he's gonna be a man someday

Roly Poly, scrambled eggs for breakfast
Bread and jelly 20 times a day
Roly Poly, eats a hearty dinner
It takes lots of strength to run and play
Pulls up weeds and does the chores
Runs both ways to all the stores
He works up an appetite that way
Roly Poly, daddy's little fatty
Bet he's gonna be a man someday

"Roly Poly" by Fred Rose

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 6 July 2006 11:29 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks for that link - I did my sums and I am allowed 2811 calories a day, which seems decent.

― Earwig oh! (Mark C), Thursday, 6 July 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

We are just harvesting flab for the end times.

― i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Thursday, 6 July 2006 11:33 (nineteen years ago)

At our high school kids could take PE, band or chorus.

That makes me sad. Although I was a fat band and chorus nerd and spent more energy trying to get out of PE than I would have expended had I just gone to class. But then again, my high school employed the kind of gym teachers that would call fat kids, "Tubs" and have a laugh with the jocks about the nerds' athletic shortcomings so on balance, it was probably healthier for me to avoid the whole scene.

I think it's really a perfect storm of fatty factors: a more sedintary lifestyle (playstation, pollution keeping kids with asthma indoors, car culture, no PE class in school), crap "foods" that pump bodies full of empty calories and train kids to crave supersweet and salty junk food (school lunch shortcomings, junk food being cheaper and easier to get and cook than healthy food, marketing this shit to kids), and people just eating more food. Oh and sadistic gym teachers.

We're all fucked.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 6 July 2006 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

Today's shitty convenience meal: a frozen, microwavable box of 'chicken fried rice' from the 7-11 across the street from the office. Tasted worse than Hitler, and probably more unhealthy than xyklon B, besides.

I'm glad I'm nobody's role model, I'll tell you that much.

― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Thursday, 6 July 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

When we went to freshman orientation at MUW last month, one of my main questions was, What's the dining hall like? I was not impressed -- it was heavy on the fried food, pizza, burgers and fries. My main food advice to Sarah will be "stick to the salad bar." But the suites in her dorm have actual kitchenettes, so that may help keeping a more healthy diet.

― I will commence to drop a knowledge bomb. (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 6 July 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

i am allowed 2500, apparently.

― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 6 July 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Part of the thing that I find interesting about the article, and why i put it as the 2nd half of the thread title, is the whole aspect that you can't tell yer kid that he's actually getting tubbo, or he'll freak like Cartman and either burn down the neighborhood or go hang with the goth kids and develop an even more pronounced eating disorder.

it's like we have such a fucked national culture that raising your kid w/ a healthy view of how to make a healty diet is fraught with difficulty from the very beginning.

― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 6 July 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

this has calculators too:
http://www.caloriesperhour.com/

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 6 July 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

I'm only allowed 1,707!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 6 July 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, there are very few people who actually benefit from 2500 calories daily. Inflated expectations of dietary intake seem to me to be behind a lot of failed weight-loss experiments.

― Damn, Atreyu! (x Jeremy), Thursday, 6 July 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

If you eat well, and consistantly, and conscientiously, you can keep yourself in the 1200-1500 calories/day range without being ravaged by hunger. No HFCS, no soft drinks, all carbohydrates complex… lots of fruit and vegetables, a tendency toward raw food.

― Damn, Atreyu! (x Jeremy), Thursday, 6 July 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

it's supposedly sugar and carbs that give you those cravings between meals, and if you cut most of that out you can eat healthfully without dying of hunger. (also the whole "mini-meals" thing is supposed to regulate glucose levels, but eating six times a day every day under any circumstances doesn't seem very realistic to me.)

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 6 July 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

i just need to work out more. there's a new small gym about a block from my house that's only like $20/mo.

they have maybe 2-3 recomb.bikes that I can sit & read on whilst pedalling.

― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 6 July 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

My kid is going to take pilates, just like Hulk Hogan.

― John W. Smoke, Jr. (Uri Frendimein), Thursday, 6 July 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

"my high school employed the kind of gym teachers that would call fat kids, "Tubs" and have a laugh with the jocks about the nerds' athletic shortcomings"

waitaminit - isn't EVERY PE class like this? I never got much actual excercise from PE anyway, it was more like a daily hazing ritual than anything to do with physical health.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 July 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

This week I've decided to really cut down on processed foods; cut down on dairy, sugar, and try and eat more fruits and vegetables. It's surprising how much more you can eat! I barely ate 700 calories yesterday because I was eating salads and fruit and oat bran and crap.

― i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Thursday, 6 July 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Not like 700 calories is good.

― i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Thursday, 6 July 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

No way, my high school gym class was awesome! The teach would make fun ONLY of the athletes and never of anyone else who was actually trying. Also, we only studied sports that weren't played at our school so one would have previous training -- things like field hockey and gymnastics and archery and bowling and PICKLEBALL, fer chrissake. It was kind of cool; I wish there was an equivalent for grown-ups.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 6 July 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

Grown-up gym class for the negligably athletic would be amazing, especially as a spectator sport!

― Damn, Atreyu! (x Jeremy), Thursday, 6 July 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

i only had to take one year of PE, and our coach was one of the few confirmed stoners on the faculty. Was in his late 30s/early 40s, had a homemade pot-leaf tattoo on the underside of his right forearm, would show up hungover with a "uh, we're just gunna play basketball again" vibe.

according to the school's webpage, he is no longer employed there.

― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 6 July 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Found in the break room

Colonel's Honey Sauce from KFC

Ingredients: High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar, Corn Syrup, Honey, Caramel Color

― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

would show up hungover with a "uh, we're just gunna play basketball again" vibe.

haha! me too! except I taught English. . .

according to the school's webpage, he is no longer employed there.

natch! except I said 'so long suckas!' and make about 5k more a year now. hahaw!

― Ms. Misery TX (MissMiseryTX), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

some of my gym teachers were like this. the only tough ones were the lesbians!

― grandfathered in (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

x-post

oh and I guess to make that somewhat thread-related, one year I showed my kids super-size me and made them right positional essays on whether or not junk food should be banned from campus. most hated writing assignement evah! Their breakfast of choice was hot cheetos.

― Ms. Misery TX (MissMiseryTX), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

My kid is going to go to pirate school so he, or she, can learn to tie knots, shimmy up riggings, strip varnish, etc. Building slowly with some light deck swabbing builds the leg, back, and upper-body strength necessary for the intensive close-quarters sabre fighting that can sometimes break out in that profession. But I also want my child to pursue the more intellectual side of piracy: the sextant, astronomy, maritime botany etc. Piracy creates a well-rounded human being and rock-hard abs, I strongly recommend it to anyone who hasn't tried. Remember, it's pronounced PIE-ruh-cee.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

id tell my child in a nice way lol
eg hey hunni you dont want all your friends at school to tease you do you? well then put down that piece of cAke

― panda may (panda_may), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 02:24 (nineteen years ago)

After having wondered earlier in the thread if Aus food does not have HFCS in it, I happened to be reading the label of our bottle of Rosella tomato sauce the other day. Bear in mind Rosella is (or WAS) an Aussie brand of many years. But then I noticed the "made in the USA" on the label. For food, thats rather unusual (Asia is more likely for here as it is closer). And then I noticed the "high fructose corn syrup" on the ingredients, and I really DONT think Ive seen that on other things before. But as this sauce is now made in the US... curious.

Won't be buying that brand ever again.

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 02:30 (nineteen years ago)

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