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I never saw anyone hit someone with their head like that!

― schanden (ritual), Monday, 10 July 2006 01:48 (nineteen years ago)

G PA ! KESKIL A DI ???!!!111

― dar1a g (daria g), Monday, 10 July 2006 01:55 (nineteen years ago)

Pasta is better than snails.

― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Monday, 10 July 2006 01:58 (nineteen years ago)

Is this a Vorlon conversation transcript or something.

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 10 July 2006 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

they must have said some thing rrrreally reallllly really ducked up dude

― schanden (ritual), Monday, 10 July 2006 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

i wonder if we'll ever know...

― tehresa, who will here remain anonymous (tehresa), Monday, 10 July 2006 02:09 (nineteen years ago)

Cantona did it better, lil' newbie.

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Monday, 10 July 2006 02:10 (nineteen years ago)

he got smacked a few times too

― schanden (ritual), Monday, 10 July 2006 02:12 (nineteen years ago)

he was just tired an afraid of missing a penalty kick obv - witness the charade w/ his arm and the cold spray.

either that or it was angry spray.

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 10 July 2006 04:40 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.outputnet.com.au/~peter/zidane29b.gif

― mentalist (mentalist), Monday, 10 July 2006 05:02 (nineteen years ago)

that is so sweet.

― trees (treesessplode), Monday, 10 July 2006 05:08 (nineteen years ago)

that move will forever be called the Zidane

― mentalist (mentalist), Monday, 10 July 2006 05:29 (nineteen years ago)

or 'the head of god'

― dr lulu (dr lulu), Monday, 10 July 2006 05:45 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.usc.edu/schools/annenberg/asc/projects/comm544/library/images/734tn.jpg

― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Monday, 10 July 2006 05:50 (nineteen years ago)

TODAY'S HEADLINES:

"IT'S ZZ STROP"
"IT'S ZID VICIOUS"
"INZZANE"

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Monday, 10 July 2006 06:55 (nineteen years ago)

ZZ loses his top?

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Monday, 10 July 2006 07:04 (nineteen years ago)

"Hey, headbutt me in the chest!"

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 10 July 2006 07:54 (nineteen years ago)

"HE'S BLOWN HIS ZZ TOP"

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Monday, 10 July 2006 08:42 (nineteen years ago)

matarazzi "ha ha. i'm better at headers than you"
zinedine "o rly?"

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 10 July 2006 08:44 (nineteen years ago)

"Here, smell me shirt."

― Toad Roundgrin (noodle vague), Monday, 10 July 2006 08:45 (nineteen years ago)

ZZ has a cold and Materazzi had Vics smeared on his chest.

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:25 (nineteen years ago)

zidane thought it'd be cute if Materazzi got a nickname of "Matador" but couldn't speak good enough italian to convey the message without illustration.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:30 (nineteen years ago)

lol he won the golden ball award thing

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:04 (nineteen years ago)

ken c i thought the same thing, re: the headers

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:15 (nineteen years ago)

According to a Brazilian website this morning, TV Globo got a lipreader to analyse what Materazzi said, and apprently he twice called Zizou's sister a whore. Enough to blow ZZ's top.

― Daniel Giraffe (Daniel Giraffe), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

So why didn't he just say "yeah, but so's your mum"?

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:24 (nineteen years ago)

FWIW I think it would be very hard to call Zidane anything he hasn't been called a hundred times before. I imagine he gets called "puto moro" or whatever every week in Spain.

All those little animated things are a bit sad. They are spoiling it.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:26 (nineteen years ago)

pauvre zizou :(

just 10 minutes left on court!

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:28 (nineteen years ago)

on court?

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

yes he only had 10 minutes of his career left on court, or field, or grass, or whatever football people call the court.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:32 (nineteen years ago)

brain stopped play

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:32 (nineteen years ago)

If it turns out it was just a bit of sister-bashing, will everyone who accused Marco Materazzi of being a racist apologise?

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:33 (nineteen years ago)

and then call him a sexist instead.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:41 (nineteen years ago)

but yeah, it was funny how so many just jumped to the conclusion "omg must be racist slur" probably without any search for evidence except for the fact that zidane is usually such a mild mannered gent who would not lose his temper except for his rage vs racism

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:44 (nineteen years ago)

i'm disappointed that it wasn't about his baldness.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:45 (nineteen years ago)

"your sister is a whore, and she has a bald twat - HER BROTHER! LOLOLOLOLOL"

*headbutt

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:46 (nineteen years ago)

He has never been mild-mannered, has he?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:48 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder what language he said it in.

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:49 (nineteen years ago)

Well, there was a Rainbow Coalition of folks at AF's who put high probability on it being a racial slur. But we'll see as FIFA will have to ask what was said.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure "You missed and didn't score", when said in English with an Italian accent, could sound a lot more offensive.

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

"you have a small zizi."

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 10 July 2006 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

i'm disappointed that it wasn't about his baldness.

"so do you have as much hair around your zizi as on your head?"

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 10 July 2006 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

ooh, zizou, yo mama too (and your daddy)

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 10 July 2006 11:12 (nineteen years ago)

"I've been pumpin' your maw, ya bawbag"

― inappropriate@fifa.org (the_article_don), Monday, 10 July 2006 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

Materazzi: Of course the Pipettes are better than Shimura Curthwack!

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Monday, 10 July 2006 11:20 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think it matters what he said. It is defelcting attention from The Best Game In The World, etc.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 10 July 2006 11:22 (nineteen years ago)

zz: "chowder"
mm "show-deer? show-deer? it's chowder. say it right frenchy!"
zz: "never!"
mm: "come back here, i'm not through demeaning you"

THUMP!

THE END

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 10 July 2006 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

Matarazzi "ha ha tomorrow after we win all the headlines will be about ME and not YOU what do you think about that eh???"
Zidane "LOL YA THINK?" *bosh*

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 10 July 2006 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

LOL weasel

― gooblar (gooblar), Monday, 10 July 2006 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

"Hey, headbutt me in the chest!"

I really want this to be true - it would open a whole new avenue of enticing your opponent to foul you.

― Teh littlest HoBBo (the pirate king), Monday, 10 July 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

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No, the problem for Materazzi is that he's actually saying things like "I don't even know what Islamic terrorism is," which is pretty clearly the most horseshit lie since...well...something an 8 year old would say to get out of trouble. So AleXTC otm.

If he'd just come out and say, "I didn't say THAT, I said THIS," instead of pretending he doesn't even know what the words he's accused of saying mean, I think you'd see a lot more of a fair opinion on the matter. But the things he's said to defend himself have been utterly laughable.

Exactly.

They're not "sainting" him for headbutting Materazzi but they're coming up with an awful lot of excuses for it and jumping to an awful lot of (unproven) conclusions about what Materazzi said ... which they absolutely would NOT be doing if it had been Materazzi doing the headbutting and Zidane the mouthing off.

Bollocks. I think there'd be exactly the same level of interest. People are interested in it because it was such a crazy thing to do in the highest profile match there is, so they're trying to find out why he did it. This would be just as true with the roles reversed - and people would be drawing on ZZ's bad boy history. Similarly people would be rather unimpressed if ZZ said "Terror-what? Nope - I've never even heard of that word, you'll have to explain it to me really slowly, I'm ignorant you see!"

― Teh littlest HoBBo (the pirate king), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

sup~~~

― BUTT LIKE A HOLE, BLACK AS UR SOUL (Adrian Langston), Thursday, 13 July 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

whatiszz.ytmnd.com

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 14 July 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

I can't decide if that's funny or totally frightening!

― Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Friday, 14 July 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

ROFL!!

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 14 July 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

I'm lost for words http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/5198796.stm

The difference between verbal abuse and a vicious headbutt is apparently just over £1000 and a 1 match ban....

― Vicky (Vicky), Thursday, 20 July 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

However the 34-year-old will instead work football's world governing body Fifa for three days.

Is this like community service?

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 20 July 2006 12:21 (nineteen years ago)

Work experience.

― Earwig oh! (Mark C), Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

It's a good thing Materazzi wasn't hanging out a car while he was screaming abuse at Zidane, that would've been well beyond the pale.

― Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

However the 34-year-old will instead work football's world governing body

at first i thought that was like 'working the body' which sounded well gross.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

Materazzi's suspension will keep him out of Italy's opening two Euro 2008 qualifiers against Lithuania on 2 September and France on 6 September.

So ZZ butting Materazzi instead of ignoring him means Italy lose a player for a game against France while France are unpunished.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 20 July 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

you mean that if ZZ hadn't butted him something FIFA deems punishable would have gone ignored?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 20 July 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

Well it does in every other game...

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 20 July 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

you mean that if ZZ hadn't butted him something FIFA deems punishable would have gone ignored?

when has verbal abuse, that isn't racist, been punished by a two match ban?

― Vicky (Vicky), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

i can only guess, but...

when it's in the World Cup final (at the end of a star's career)? (with international implications?) and how do we know it wasn't (explicitly) racist?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

International implications? I don't think Zidane's chrome dome qualifies as a weapon of mass destruction.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

because Zidane's said so. Whatever Materazzi said, it's Zidane's word against Materazzi's, and even if it was racist, unless there was proof, then there couldn't be punishment for it.

A Fifa statement said: "Both players stressed Materazzi's comments had been defamatory but not of a racist nature."

― Vicky (Vicky), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

FIFA says it wasn't racist. Zidane and Matterazzi both say the word "terrorist" wasn't used. Zidane says "he insulted my mother and sister". Matterazzi says "I didn't mention his mother". FIFA agree with both. Thus, Materrazzi probably did say "I hope your family die painfully". FIFA wouldn't give a shit about this if Zidane didn't bring in a shitload of sponsorship dollars to the sport. If a similar incident happened during Angola/Iran, there wouldn't be a whimper from them.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

International implications?

maybe I overestimate things, but this seems always-possible to me. not like I'm imagining France and Italy going to war, but who knows what nationalities/religions he impugned and how things could potentially spiral when it's something lots of the world seems to be slightly crazy about.

and I'm given to such speculation, but I wonder if the players (led by Zidane's initial example)/Fifa are covering up what was actually said for precisely those sorts of reasons.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, why did ZZ say he would announce what was said only after a few days? Maybe to defuse tension? Or so everyone could get their story straight?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure we'll never know the whole story. also there are differences even in the use of the term "racist" but I don't conclude anything. whatever the real story is, FIFA has made it look like Materazzi is the one most at fault.

― dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 21 July 2006 03:43 (nineteen years ago)

the moral of the story is, when it's your last match of the career, headbutt people, and then you get to play with kiddies for 3 days.

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 21 July 2006 08:31 (nineteen years ago)

I called a white van driver a wanker this morning while cycling to work and I've been given a 7 week ban and fined 2 week's wages :(

― Earwig oh! (Mark C), Friday, 21 July 2006 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

What, not seriously?

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

No hon, not seriously (when footballers do something bad the max they can be fined is 2 week's wages). I was trying to be funny :)

― Earwig oh! (Mark C), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

Was the white van driver a famous millionaire with many lucrative contracts to look forward to with various powerful multinationals? Or maybe he was a symbol of a nation's nascent struggle for a new multicultural identity?

― Dadaismus (Are we in love like I think we be?) (Dada), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

Jockey investigated for headbutting his horse

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 24 July 2006 10:26 (nineteen years ago)

shades of "what kind of man gives cigarettes to trees?"

― teh_kit is jayne without the tits (g-kit), Monday, 24 July 2006 10:53 (nineteen years ago)

any horse lipreading experts here?

apparently that horse is trained by John O'Shea.. not that that means anything.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

I think white van drivers very much are a symbol of a nation's nascent struggle for a new multicultural identity, only on the other side of the fence :/

― Earwig oh! (Mark C), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 08:44 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

Materazzi says that Zidane had grown frustrated at constant shirt tugging and had offered to give the Italian his shirt after the game. "I would prefer your sister," Materazzi shot back.

hahaha!

― genital hyphys (haitch), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

...and no apology from marco.

― genital hyphys (haitch), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

Zidane's the one who should be apologising

― Ich Ber Ein Binliner (Dada), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

D'you figure Zidane's like Maradona was after he stopped playing -- retired, doesn't have to do anything, and has bloated up by fifty pounds because he can eat whatever he wants to?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, I doubt he'd ever do anything that interesting

― Ich Ber Ein Binliner (Dada), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Zidane should have his own chat show.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

Guests all greeted in his unique style.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

he has a contract with canal+, it could happen!

― genital hyphys (haitch), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

Sophie Ellis Bextor was found headbutted to death on the floor of the Paris apartment of a famous footballer.

It was murder on Zidane's floor.

Ho ho ho.

― chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

Zidane et Trezeguet GAY GAY
You've seen this before, right?

― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

I like the way Marco said that he didn't even know ZZ had a sister!

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

According to Sports Illustrated:

Zidane was complaining that Materazzi was holding his shirt.

Zidane: If you want my shirt, you can have it after the match.

Materazzi: I prefer the whore that is your sister.

― Dandy Don Weiner, Friday, 24 August 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

BAN MATERAZZI

― StanM, Friday, 24 August 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

Your mother is the one who has been fucked by me.

― Abbott, Friday, 24 August 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

< / Stewie >

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 August 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

Time: not healing wounds

Zidane told a Spanish newspaper that he'd rather die than apologize to Italian defender Marco Materazzi for head-butting him during the 2006 World Cup final. He expressed shame for his action but emphasized he would never apologize to Materazzi, saying Materazzi provoked the incident by ridiculing him.
"After the game, I went into the dressing room and told [his teammates], 'Forgive me. This doesn't change anything, but sorry everyone," Zidane told the newspaper.
"But to (Materazzi) I can't. Never. Never. It would be to dishonor me. ... I'd rather die."
Materazzi reportedly told an Italian newspaper he is still angry about being head-butted and that he is waiting for Zidane to apologize to him.
"If it was Kaka, an ordinary guy, a good guy, of course I would have apologized," Zidane said. "But to this one! If I ask forgiveness of him, I lack the respect for myself and for all those I love with all my heart."

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 March 2010 19:01 (sixteen years ago)

― i am under no illusions that my opinions are even that interesting to me (dan m), Monday, 1 March 2010 19:13 (sixteen years ago)

It's like the intro to a Japanese video game. "But... to save the world... they must put aside their differences and work together!"

― might seem normal but is actually (snoball), Monday, 1 March 2010 19:14 (sixteen years ago)

would love to see zidane head-butt kaka

― sonderangerbot, Monday, 1 March 2010 19:36 (sixteen years ago)

six years pass...

otm

― poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Sunday, 11 September 2016 23:21 (nine years ago)

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